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jarossamdb7
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I aloways thought that punk mentality was non violent and on the left wing of politics for the most part. so why do some punks and punk bands like Agnostic Front and Tiger Army call themselves Skinheads? doesn't Skinhead = nazi?




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Aug 25 2003 1:42AM
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Bob_Loblaw
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refer to nazi punks fuck off by the dead kennedys
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Aug 25 2003 1:43AM
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Papa
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who cares it's just music, i hate people who feel that just cause they listen to a certain genre of music they have to live like that, they're just tools




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Aug 25 2003 1:44AM
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if you shaved your cat would you still be able to tell that it was your cat?

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Aug 25 2003 1:45AM
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the artists may be expressing there views, but that dosnt mean u gotta go around bein there propoganda machine
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Aug 25 2003 1:45AM
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jarossamdb7
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I know of and have heard of that song. I know that amny punk bands are anti nazi but that still doesn;t answer my ? why do they call themselves skinheads if they are opposed to skinheads?




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Aug 25 2003 1:47AM
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because theyre not opposed to skinheads wha?......
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Aug 25 2003 1:49AM
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jarossamdb7
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the thing is that those same bands sing about thing that are agenst nazis and nazi like behavior.




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Aug 25 2003 1:49AM
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ive never heard the term skinhead.....
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Aug 25 2003 1:49AM
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Bob_Loblaw
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and u like punk? a skinhead is a nazi punk.
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Aug 25 2003 1:50AM
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b-ladd
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o. right.
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Aug 25 2003 1:51AM
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jarossamdb7
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how can that be if they oppose nazis though?




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cj
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how can you tell its your cat?

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Aug 25 2003 1:53AM
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jarossamdb7
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I am not quite sure I understand your analogy




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Aug 25 2003 1:55AM
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jarossamdb7
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Papa, I never said anything about that...




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Aug 25 2003 2:03AM
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lalalalaura
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what?! a skinhead isn't a nazi!!! research kids. the early skinheads were in jamaica! the early ones and alot of skins today choose to listen to ska...ska is pretty much ALL about racial unity, checkerboard patter= black and white mixed together...i've heard that the image 'no hair, steeltoed boots' was to protect them from head lice when doing manual labour...but i dont know more than that...


anyways, in the late 60s-early 70s a few racist groups chose to adopt the skinhead image including the British Nazi party, who recruiting skinhead poseurs, which were regulars at soccer games and often turned violent towards other countrys, thus became Boneheads....

'If someone allows their politics (be that left or right) to be the reason why they are a skinhead, then they are not one. If that is the case, then what they are doing is, using the skin image and culture for their own purely personal ends. They are either using the way society labels skins to reinforce the stereotype that a skin is only a skin to be racist (putting aside working class, skin history, culture, and loyalty in the process) OR (in the case with most modern sharps) because they think it is fun to go around challenging the stereotype image ( again working class, skin history, culture, and loyalty put aside). '

being a skinhead isn't about politcal views, anti-nazi or not.


there is NO set political view of skinheads, modern or not.
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Aug 25 2003 2:07AM
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jarossamdb7
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thanx. I never knew that.

but, isn't it true that when you say skinhead most people think of nazi?




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Aug 25 2003 2:17AM
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lalalalaura
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yes my dear, but that would be what we call a 'stereotype'...
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Aug 25 2003 2:22AM
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jarossamdb7
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ok. but wouldn;t it be better for them not to call themselves skinheads because that is what most people think a skinhead is? like serously I bet 80% of people think skinheads are nazis




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Aug 25 2003 2:25AM
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lalalalaura
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yeah, but uneducation in my opinion is no excuse to change the way you live...example: the breed of dog that i have is a keeshond, pronounced 'KAZE-HAWND'...it's dutch, that's the way it's pronounced, important to the roots of the breed. Yet 80% of the people that say it aloud, say 'Kees-HOUND'...why should the roots be ignored for the ignorant? it's better to inform people about it than to change the pronounciation to 'kees-hound'...same with skinheads, it's better to inform people about the roots and what it actually means than to just let it happen... alright, crappy comparison, but you get the idea...
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Aug 25 2003 2:33AM
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B-Wald
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by calling themselves skinheads..people would probably ask them if they were 'nazis'..then they'd say no..and people would learn that skinhead doesn't neccisarily mean nazi..and people would learn something..and not let the stereotype be carried on..
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Aug 25 2003 2:36AM
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lalalalaura
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^ better put...
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Aug 25 2003 2:37AM
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B-Wald
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^you made a good point about the heritage there too..
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Aug 25 2003 2:54AM
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jarossamdb7
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ok, thanks. that makes sense




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Aug 25 2003 2:57AM
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fireunderwater and b-wald are the only ones that are actually correct here...

go read up on something if you really wanna know about it so badly...


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wow no one has destoryed this thread yet this is simply amazing


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holyDINOSAURS
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^ i know its crazy!!! and yea its correct the skins started in jamaica and that it was to stop lice and such during manual labour




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Aug 25 2003 4:23AM
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skinheads of today= nazis.

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Aug 29 2003 4:45AM
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punk & skinheads = gay faggots











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Aug 29 2003 4:46AM
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^=ass!
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Aug 29 2003 4:49AM
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yea the guy 2 up ^^. fuck u




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Aug 29 2003 4:58AM
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wilkesyachtingco
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ive never heard tiger army refer to themselfs as skinheads.... psychos, yes.. but thats somthing entirely different...








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