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1212j5j5
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Ontario is looking to come down a little harsher or drunk drivers, repeat offenders (2nd time caught) life time license suspension. I'm in full agreement with this plan (although i suspect Ernie might be doing it to get votes, its a fucking good idea) I actually think it should be 1 time, i have absolutely no respect for anyone who drinks and drives. Just wondering what everyone elses point of view on this is?
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Jul 21 2003 4:40PM
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P-JO
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yeah but what about your friends that have a couple drinks and get caught, theyd be fucked, i drive after drinking all the time but Im not drunk, even though id still get a DUI. I think they should just give you a really big fine, money controls everything.







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Jul 21 2003 4:44PM
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i figured someone would have a response to that, dude, as soon as you have alcohol, your judgement is worse... if you've had enough to be caught, then your response time would be shot anyway... i seriously dont understand how you could think that way, if theres even a chance you could get you, your friends, and someone you dont even know killed why the hell would you do it? and your probly gonna say 'but i know im not drunk' your judgement is still impaired... call a goddamn cab.
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Jul 21 2003 4:46PM
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also, money controls nothing, you can charge me once, and i'll do it again and kill someone, if i run somone over, just out for a walk, i should get charged??? what the fuck... we had a family friend get killed by a drunk while he was biking one morning, he got 3 years probation, no charges, no vehicular manslaughter, no jail time, nothing... hows getting drunk and killing someone any different from the guy who rob's the 7'11 and pulls the trigger 'by accident'?
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Jul 21 2003 4:48PM
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ya i totally agree with that, cause drinking and driving kills, and the only way to stop people is to make the punishment so harsh that you cant afford to do it
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Jul 21 2003 4:50PM
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XXXQueen
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a friend of mine was just killed by a drunk driver about a month ago.....a week before her birthday. Her father had just taken her to buy a new car for her 18th and they had just gotten on the freeway when some drunk girl jumped the median and hit her head on. Both were killed instantly. The drunk driver had a friend in the car with her who servived......the driver didn't think she was all that drunk when she left the bar.......Thats how people die, drinking and driving is an 'fearless' move made by ignorent people


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Jul 21 2003 4:50PM
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^^ very good, they think there fine to drive like pjo or whoever said, but they really arent, and the other thing is ignorant friends who let friends drink and drive... and im not just ranting because people i know have died from drinking and driving (the last person i know that that happened to was 5 or 6 years ago) it is just one of my strong beliefs, that they should come down harder on them. And also, i know that you can be a perfectly good person to dd, i have an uncle, convicted 2 times of drinking and riving, now has the breathelizer installed to start the car, and, i think his license should be totally suspended. He's a nice guy, he didnt mean to do it, but it was a stupid mistake, and he did do it, so he should take the punishment (he did spend a month in jail, and was charged, but never did he kill anyone, luckily)
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Jul 21 2003 4:54PM
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I agree with the life time band and harsher consequences.
Jul 21 2003 4:57PM
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P-JO
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I think if I was the legal age to drink, lived in Ontario, and really cared because I don't think I'll ever get caught, then I would try to respond and make a valid argument, but for now you made a good point, driving really drunk is bad.







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Jul 21 2003 4:57PM
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its the stupidest thing you can do,a guy i know drives drunk all the time but hes a good driver when hes drunk for some reason,hes done it so many times i guess that its nothing for him to drive drunk,


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Jul 21 2003 4:58PM
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P-JO
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Yeah i know some people who have a breathilizer installed in there car, I think thats good enough and is a perfect thing. If you get your license suspended you can still drive you car, just not legally. The only thing I've killed while I was drunk was a raccon, and I feel pretty bad about it.







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Jul 21 2003 5:01PM
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i totally agree. I thing it is bullshit that my safety should be at risk bexause of some complete fucking moron decides they arent 'too' drunk to drive. If a drunk person were on some hypothetical road with no one but themselves, and they crashed into a tree and killed themselves, i wouldnt care, infact, id probably be happy if they killed themselves. However, as soon as you put other people's lives at risks, i think it is total bullshit. Why should I, or anyone else pay for your stupidity?

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Jul 21 2003 5:05PM
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I drive drunk. but I'm not an asshole, I gots skills. I practised go-karting and offroading drunk and became proficient before hitting public roads. and I stand by my accident and fatality free record. There should be a 'drunk driver endorsement' on licenses, if you pass a test, you are legal to drive at double or triple the blood alcohol limit.

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Jul 21 2003 5:06PM
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i totally agree. I think that it is bullshit that my safety should be at risk because of some complete fucking moron decides they arent 'too' drunk to drive. If a drunk person were on some hypothetical road with no one but themselves, and they crashed into a tree and killed themselves, i wouldnt care, infact, id probably be happy if they killed themselves. However, as soon as you put other people's lives at risk, i think it is total bullshit. Why should I, or anyone else have to suffer the consequences of your stupidity?

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Jul 21 2003 5:07PM
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Jul 21 2003 5:08PM
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1212j5j5
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my god, driving really drunk is horrible, driving over the limit at all is stupid. WHy do they have the liomit? because they have figured out, that depending on your body wait, your judgement, and response time, is impaired after that much alcohol, and you are endangering yourself, and anyone else on the road. Your pretty much saying its ok to drive a little drunk, and miss a read light, kill a family in there mini van, but its not ok to drive really drunk, and kill a family walking on the sidewalk? your really not making sense to me pjo.
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Jul 21 2003 5:09PM
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again, to .. uhh whoever above (didnt read names) i know your not an asshole, your just a dumbass. im sure your a really nice guy, and i know everyone always thinks taht, it will never happen to them... but it will, and whos the asshole when it does? how could you ever explain to the parents of the 17 year old kid you killed, that you were a bit drunk but you have 'skills'? oh, i was just a little drunk, i do this all the time... honestly, what are you thinking? if your at all drunk, dont drive. and the breathalizer? bs, you can get a sober buddy to help you out on that one, i cannot seem to understand why the fuck you would even risk getting behind a wheel, when your even the slightest bit drunk, and endager your life, and other peoples lives as well... never makes sense to me.
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Jul 21 2003 5:13PM
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221,Your the kind of ignorent people that kill innocent people. If you want to put your own life at risk that is one thing but I have a 3 year old son and everytime you drive drunk you are putting his life in danger and the lives of other people and their children... It is sad that you think you have control when driving drunk and that it is going to take you killing someone or yourself before you stop.


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Jul 21 2003 5:13PM
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mauii, thank you also (im horing, i dont give a fuck) 221 is an asshole, you pass a test once, that doesnt matter. Drunk drivers are usually repeat offenders, and do it more than once, if i get drunk, get home safe, does that mean i should do it again and again? am i safe to do it? no.. your a lucky selfish sonofabitch, because alcohol makes you do stupid shit, makes you stupid, and gets people hurt. 221, whoopdy fucking do, you've never been in an accident, past record is no excuse for drunk driving you asshole... (not really, your a cool guy)... thats like, i go out and murder someone, do you think that if i kill a cop, not having done it before is a good excuse? i really really dont think so... its all the same? whether you shoot him with a gun, or run him down with 2 tons of steel, it all seems the same to me.
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Jul 21 2003 5:16PM
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look at the baby 221, do you think you have the right to just, wipe that baby off the earth because you have 'skillz'? and if you do... wanna let me know how you got that right?

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Jul 21 2003 5:21PM
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its cool. i just wanted to piss everyone off. seriously, i used to drink and drive like a motherfuck but I got busted at a checkstop. In the end, the cop let me off through a deal with my lawyer but I'm happy to say I havent driven drunk since. Its just the whole experience kind of desensitized me to the subject.

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Jul 21 2003 5:23PM
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well... then.. why the fuck would you post that shit up there?? just lower everyones respect for you?
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Jul 21 2003 5:23PM
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i dont care what kind of 'skills' or how many times you have done it or 'trained' yourself to do it you are being a selfish asshole when you get behind the wheel of a car drunk. it like playing russian roulette eventually that bullet is gonna get to you. you reaction time des suffer when you drink at all, whether you feel drunk or not your reaction time is not the same. from what i understand england has got it right cause when you do get caught you lose your license permanently.


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Jul 21 2003 5:25PM
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i like pissing people off

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Jul 21 2003 5:26PM
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again, the way i see it, a drunk hopping into a car, is just the equivelant to a guy shooting the foreigner at the 7'11, or popin that cop at the tim hortons cuz he gave you a speeding ticket, and all punishment should be the same, you should get no easier punishment because you were under the influence, you had to get under the influence, you had to get into that car, and, you should of fucking known that you could easily kill somone, its just the same as thinkin, the bullet wont kill him.. just hurt him a bit.
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Jul 21 2003 5:29PM
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pffft chinese people kill way more peds than drunks.

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Jul 21 2003 5:31PM
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XXXQueen
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Yeah your a funny little fuck too... hate to be the one to brake it to you but this is not funny or and it you actually got off on seeing people get angry about this then you are just as fucking sad and stupid as I though you were.


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Jul 21 2003 5:32PM
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1212j5j5
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221 is making an ass out of himself, if you want to try and make humour out of people getting killed, be my guest, how bout i shoot your fucking girlfriend, whos laughing now you sick bastard.. go to hell... no one was laughing on 9/11 were they? this is people diiing too.. stfu you bastard
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Jul 21 2003 5:35PM
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221
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this thread is just like drunk driving: I'm having fun at others expense. hoooo ok I'll stop now. for the record, one of best friends dads died in a drunk driving accident a few years ago. I guess I cope with tragedy better than most people.

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Jul 21 2003 5:36PM
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XXXQueen
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Yeah ok so now I know for sure your a fucking idiot.


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Jul 21 2003 5:37PM
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apparently so... dont think we will become your friend b/c you knew someone who waskilled by a dd... youve already made an ass out of yourself.
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Jul 21 2003 5:38PM
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XXXQueen
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It has nothing to do with knowing someone who was killed its know the difference between right and wrong and this dick fuck doesn't


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Jul 21 2003 5:40PM
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Jul 21 2003 5:49PM
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the risk of getting killed by a drunk driver on any given day is negligable. I'd be more worried about africanized bees. A drunk driving joke is no worse than any dead baby joke.

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Jul 21 2003 5:51PM
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XXXQueen
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Sorry but I didnt see anyone make a dead baby joke so what exactly is your point?


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Jul 21 2003 6:00PM
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um i dont like people who drink and drive. they are assholes. i have no respect for them either. as for 221's first comment, it was quite obvious he was joking. geez.

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Jul 21 2003 6:00PM
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drinking and driving is the stupidest thing you can do. what sucks even more is that when you know people who drink and drive, they're real assholes if you try to talk to them about it, most of them get really defensive...its not worth it at all
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Jul 21 2003 6:01PM
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this is for blindblinds comment about the breathalizer in the car..
you said that you could have a sober buddy blow for you..so you could drive..
but who the fuck would do that?..if yer friend was drunk..and they wanted you to blow their breathelizer for them so they could drive..would you even consider doing it?
i think the breathelizer in the car is a great thing..
but driving drunk is a horrible thing..
however..let's say you have a beer..and yer not drunk at all..are you against driving after that?..i dont think that's bad..
but anything where you're actually impaired is one of the worst things you can do..
but we don't have cabs in my town..so we can't get one..we do have these christian people in our town that sit outside the bars..then drive you home for you..that's pretty cool that they do that..
i'm still not of legal age..but once i am..i plan on takin them up on their services..
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Jul 21 2003 6:34PM
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some people would.
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Jul 21 2003 8:43PM
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and also, the breathelizer is great, but why not take it one step further? just get them off the road... its like murder, and registering guns... shit happens, they've done it 2 times, hell, throw them in jail... they dont deserve to drive, thats 2 strikes man... next ones a fould ball... there just out...
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Jul 21 2003 8:45PM
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P-JO
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dude blindblinds i dont see why your makin all these fucking personal attacks at people... FUCK OFF! theres unreasponsible people in the world and you gotta deal with there shit, if you wanna get a message out to everybody saying dont drive drunk.. why not put that as your title and leave it be. Yeah you've made some good points, don't drive drunk, people who are drunk shouldn't drive, they kill babies and familys, we got it.







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Jul 21 2003 8:54PM
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i dont get your point... what the fuck is it pjo? what im saying is, those irresponsible people out there should be punished with a lifetime suspension of there license, you were the one against that idea in your first post... just changing my handle wouldnt get any shit message across you fucking idiot...
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Jul 21 2003 9:00PM
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getting driven drunk is the best, my friend just bought a sick unbelievable new Audi A8 and he picked me up at a party, when u are doing 125 and are to drunk to stand up, u know its a good time

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Jul 21 2003 9:04PM
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^^^ the most ignorant, selfish, peice of shit comment i have ever heard... honestly, i dont care if your a really nice guy, that irresponsible attidude pisses me way the fuck off.
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Jul 21 2003 9:06PM
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yeah I don't know why I'm argueing against not driving drunk lol. Yeah im prety ignorant sometimes but your just saying people who drive drunk are idiots, dumbass', ignorant morons who kill familys, and ive driven kinda drunk so your callin me all those things? fuck you is what im saying. Yeah but I don't drive drunk and I don't even really drink anymore because I training for soccer, but next time i think about driving drunk, ill be like... blindblinds... damn him.







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Jul 21 2003 9:07PM
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dude Audi A8s are so safe, if that kid got in a crash he'd pry be fine, except if the other person didn't have an A8 theyd be focked. Actually not if your goin 125, thats just moronic stuff there.







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Jul 21 2003 9:09PM
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good... and you said you drive drunk above??? what the fuck?? i dont get it??
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Jul 21 2003 9:09PM
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I have in the past? Maybe 4-5 times, possibly more, I don't remember. All those times the most Ive had was like 6 beers im guessing so i was alright.







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Jul 21 2003 9:12PM
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B-Wald
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blindblinds..
he was talking about being driven drunk..not driving drunk..
he's talking about his sober friend picking him up while he's smashed..and driving him from the party so he didn't have to..
read it again before you say something like you did to him..
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Jul 21 2003 9:14PM
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Rez4frederick
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Wow blindblinds, you really have a lot of feelings about drinking and driving. So basically, alcohol is the real dangerous drug. It is the reason that people drive drunk in the first place, it takes over your thinking process and causes you to do stupid things. The only way you could stop drinking and driving is to outlaw alcohol and we will never see that happen. There may come a time in your life where you will drive drunk, we are all there at some point, especially you because judging from your icon and other posts by yourself that you are an alcoholic. Dont think that because you 'never' drive drunk but still are get fucking plastered that you are making our society better.
Jul 21 2003 9:15PM
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ok, what im gonna say is ... you werent alright.. if you were above the limit, you were not... now im gonna be nice, i wasnt calling you ignorant people or anything. I mean, i said, i know smart, good people, who've drunk and drove, but, its an irresponsible thing to do.and you have to look at it this way, if your father, wife, sister, friend, were killed by a drunk driver, most of you are gonna look at him, and say what a fucking irresponsible bastard, i hate him, he took my friends life.. but, drinking and driving is just the same, only this is the one guy, that when he did pass out at the wheel, was the one to hit someone.. wheather you kill someone or not, it makes no differance to me, its still jsut as bad...
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