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I just heard a rumor that all the jumps in the country were closed!

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Dan-Man
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Kenny Salvini, He won a lawsuit in WA for 14 million. He got worked on a park jump sued and won. This is way all the park jumps have been closed in the country. Just look up his name and you will find his MYspace page. He will get a message from me after this. Take some responsibility for your self. No one made this dude hit the jump.
Apr 18 2007 6:40PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I dont think its all the jumps, we'll have to wait for the appeal over the summer. I heard vail knocked down some of their larger stuff, but most everywhere else is closed or unchanged apparently.
Apr 18 2007 6:42PM
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NevWild
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yeah we filmed all day today at breck, and all the jumps were kickin, so FAIL
Apr 18 2007 6:42PM
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4ReeL_
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word to nev, cuz breck is open till this weekend, echo is open till may 14th, keystone and copp are filming and wp is huge for the burton team.......ya i think this kid is wrong
Apr 18 2007 6:44PM
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CMF
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it will never happen because of waivers and stuff
Apr 18 2007 6:44PM
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HeathR
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I heard about this case but the park jumps around me are def not closed. If you read the article the park crew there was kind of retarded. If places keep well maintained parks they wont have any more liability. This is only 1 case I just hope it doesent scare places into toneing shit down.
Apr 18 2007 6:45PM
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slopestyle4331
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what a douche bag
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Apr 18 2007 6:46PM
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3ski6guy0
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ya i remember hearing that the jump they had built where the kid got hurt on was absolutely retarded. he shouldnt hve gotten 14 million he shouldve just gotten his hospital paid for.
Apr 18 2007 6:47PM
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HeathR
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he was at falt a lot i think but the cost of the injury could be more then 14 million. He is paralized.
Apr 18 2007 6:50PM
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zylstra
Posts: 3613 - Karma: 125
Scott Shmidt once said
People suing ski places should be shot.
or something like that
so true
Apr 18 2007 6:52PM
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AlexMartini
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ha, just cuz some asshole sued a mountain there no way anyone is closing jumps, most resorts in the country are closed, but when you buy a ticket you basically sign off that you wont sue, i dont know how he got away with it, but i ski breck everyday and there jumps are very good, very big, and very open
Apr 18 2007 6:53PM
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ATLskier
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it was estimated that it would cost 27 mil for him the rest of his life due to paralysis.
Apr 18 2007 6:53PM
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TheButterHashira
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i think with all due respect to the guy who hurt himself its the own motherfuckers fault he got hurt. look before you leap bitch
Apr 18 2007 6:54PM
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Adrenaline
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since when did personal responsibility walk out when you step into your skis?  it says it on the back of your ticket, on the signs at the entrance to parks.  if you overshoot a jump,  it's your own damn fault.  I feel bad for the guy but in no way should a ski area pay for his stupid decision.  it sets a precident that will make terrain parks un-affordable for alot of resorts,  so if things don't change,  if the appeal fails, start seeing the demise of terrain parks at resorts that can't afford the new insurance premiums. 
Apr 18 2007 7:59PM
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HeathR
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if i remember right at least 1 other person died on the jump prior to the incedent. I think its ur resposablilty to make sure a jump is safe before u hit it. But at the same time resorts should maintain safe jumps. Its just a shitty situation and hopefully it doesent mess things up for other people.
Apr 18 2007 8:17PM
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Luckyscs
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It may be his fault he went too fast and over shot the jump but that doesn't mean he has to take total responsibility. First of all, the jump was built poorly and a mistake that would be nothing on a safe jump, turned into a paralyzing fall. Second of all, the mountian is insured. Third, it was in the park not out of bounds making the injury a legitimate responibility for the mountian. The judge awarded him 14 mil, this is money he will spend to keep himself alive, not party and waste. I know i would take my legs over 14 million anyday.  I feel sorry for the guy.
Apr 18 2007 8:17PM
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VT_scratch
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http://www.morelaw.com/verdicts/case.asp?n=Unknown&s=WA%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&d=33025
Apr 18 2007 8:19PM
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N-Yourd
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Im suing the cliff in the mongolia bowl for purposly dislocating my hip
Apr 18 2007 8:21PM
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Kevski
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that guy must not give a shit about skiing, to sue the mountain. However, it doesn't affect me cuz i live in canada.

But over here some kid with his school snuck into the closed whistler park and paralized himself. Now the ski club at my school is gay cuz we have to ride with an instructor.
Apr 18 2007 8:39PM
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First.Aid
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Does anyone have a picture of the jump?
Apr 18 2007 8:42PM
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coop-son
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dude it sux for the guy man
Apr 18 2007 9:19PM
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coop-son
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dude it sux for the guy man
Apr 18 2007 9:19PM
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DJSTEVEINNIAMIXX
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wow that blows

but i live in canada.......
Apr 18 2007 9:50PM
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Crock360
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I understand why some people are upset, but the bigger issue is restricting access to the bigger terrain parks. Jumps and jibs are getting bigger and more difficult because the sport is progressing rapidly. There needs to be more park-pass systems to keep beginners out of the advanced parks. I mean obviously most kids new to the sport aren't going to be hitting 50 foot tables, but they think it'll be fun to try because they're inexperienced. They speed check like crazy, and then wreck themselves on the deck. It happens every day dozens of times. I'm surprised more people dont get hurt. 
Apr 18 2007 9:56PM
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Holte
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i feel bad for the guy, but his blog and the responses on his blog site are almost infuriating. if the jump was overly dangerous, i'd understand kenny's argument, but i hit the jump and it was no more dangerous than any other feature.
Apr 18 2007 10:06PM
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invader7
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i agree i wish my mountain would do sumthing like that
Apr 18 2007 10:07PM
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Rajna
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im sure resorts will continue to make parks...i mean think of all the issues with skateparks?
Apr 18 2007 10:19PM
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Adrenaline
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you apperantly haven't been in offices of resorts to hear the talk.  the insurance premiums because of this ruling and other similar rulings in the last few years are going to force resorts out.  not just small resorts, but resorts that just don't want to pay the premiums.  I feel bad for the guy.  but all of you saying he's paralyzed and deserves it deserve to get bitchslapped.  if i drove drunk and ran off the road hitting a road sign, can i sue the state because i deserve money for my injury?  he made a decision.  he needs to deal with the results.  There are numerous ways to survive after this decision, benefeits whatever.  but to sue because he "deserves it because he is paralyzed forever"  is stupid. you are what is wrong with america,  sue because personal responsibility somehow wanders off and it's suddenly someone elses fault for the result.  if he overshot the jump, it was a concious decision by him to keep going for the jump instead of speed checking or stopping period.  it's not the malicious mistake of a resort that someone overshot the jump.  I have a jump at my resort that has a 120 foot plus landing, and people still come close to overshooting it,  and also case it by 10 feet or more.  There is a legally binding contract on the back of your ticket, at the entrance to your park.  From the people I hear that actually hit the jump and don't play armchair quarterback,  the jump may have had it's annoyances but wasn't designed wrong.  It was the people that were not of the ability level to hit it that hit it wrong,  made the wrong choices and hurt themselves.  Any big jumps are going to have multiple injuries,  not from lack of design but from people that shouldn't be hitting it.  Park passes are going to become very popular.  and the prices for them will start to climb.  not only to make money off of them,  but to put that money into an account to pay for the rapidly climbing insurance premiums.  People need to step up and stop being babies when they make a bad decision.  If the decision ends in injury,  it was their responsibility to recognize what the contract on the back of their ticket said and what the sign at the top of the park said.  Skiing is an inherantly dangerous activity.  Terrain parks are an inherently dangerous activity.  start small.  work your way up.  look before you leap.  if you don't have the ability level to hit said feature,  stay the fuck off it.
Apr 18 2007 10:38PM
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CooksCorner
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The park pass system has been around for a long time. The issue is how does someone like myself go to a new mountain for a day or two and ride the big stuff without to much hassle?
Apr 18 2007 10:46PM
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Greenish
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thats it right there. everyone just read that and call it a day
Apr 18 2007 11:03PM
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HeathR
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I dont see how living in canada will make much of a difference. Insurance premuims are based a lot on liability. If insurace companies think that people will sue cuz of terrain parks and win then they will raise the rates.
Apr 18 2007 11:18PM
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K-Thomas
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not to mention that when you purchase skis, or at least have bindings mounted, in most places you have to sign a liability form that blatantly states that skiing is a dangerous sport...i certainly feel bad for the dude, no one want's to be paralyzed. now i don't know the whole story, but to sue a place for providing a designated area where you can do what you love, is kind of lame i.m.o.
Apr 18 2007 11:24PM
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GetPitted
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Well put Mike
Apr 18 2007 11:38PM
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860
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http://www.saminfo.com/news/article.php?tid=1333

It does really suck for him and I feel bad but seeing as he hit it a few times before that and landed fine as with about 200,000 other people about .000075 people got hurt on the jump if my math is right. I did 15 people divided by 200,000 if anyone wants to check.
Apr 18 2007 11:54PM
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Krush
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What a totall fucking idiot. Its his fucking fault that he didnt look at the fukcing jump and his fault that he overshot it. and fuck those attorneys that dont kno shit about skiing. "the jump was only eyeballed and not properly construckted" GO FUCK YOU SELF. u want to get a fucking surveyer out when ever a place buildS a god damn jump? if its bad dont hit it. AND then he make his own god damn website where he bitches about fuckin him self up when everyone noes its his own fucking fault, even tho he has fucking 14mill. what a bitch. then his stupid ass MS friends are like "congrats on the law suit." FUCK YOU GROW SOME BALLS AND PULL UP YOUR FUCKING PAMPERS. ITS YOUR FAULT YOU FUCKING DUMBASS. I HOPE U GET RAPED AND YOU CANT DO ANYTHING CAUSE YOU CANT MOVE U FUCKER. HOLY SHIT
Apr 19 2007 12:29AM
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coolhandluke
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he actually gets $31 million. snoqualmie only has to pay $14.

the fact that he went off the jump the previous week.......FUCK
Apr 19 2007 3:24AM
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(Jonesy)
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this happened at my home mountain, on a day that i was there. i remember it very well. he started from the top of the park and pointed it at the first jump, about a 25 foot table. he started about 200 feet higher than you need to, on a pretty steep in run.

his fault entirely. i don't disagree that he needs money to live in his condition, but if any parks start to close, all hell will break loose.
Apr 19 2007 3:31AM
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MrLevel
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I feel bad for him and for sure I understand (don't agree) he wants a compensation for the financial costs coming with his disability (i.e. house renovation and stuff) but this is just stupid, and I think only possible in one country...

Why didn't he sue everyone else he saw hitting that jump that day for giving him the idea for hitting it. Hell, sue the car manufacturer for providing the means to drive to a mountain featuring dangerous jumps. Sue ski clothing manufacturers for making suitable clothing, because if they didn't he probably wouldn't be  out there... retard!
Apr 19 2007 7:00AM
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zylstra
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I was present the night  a guy at my hill overshot a jump, landing on his neck. He died, and the park was closed for a while. I don't think the parks or big stuff will stay closed. next season it will be bigger and better again.
Apr 19 2007 7:05AM
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Chuckless
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idk though... 31 million is a pretty big judgment. It will definitely raise insurance rates and the insurance companies will force mountains to build smaller or at least more careful features. From what I've read it sounds like the mountain really screwed up when the guy who built it said he simply eyeballed it... instead of stating that you don't necessarily need engineering plans to build a safe jump. On the hand, this could also force mountains to start really designing jumps with safety in mind, like Olsson's jump in the JOI... we could be seeing better built jumps in the future. I am however very surprised that they got anything from the mountain seeing as the liability waiver has always excused the mountain no matter how negligent they were.....
Apr 19 2007 7:57AM
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skiEER
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one ruling is not goign to shutdown all parks
Apr 19 2007 8:52AM
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DaLiNeRiDEr21
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yea
Apr 19 2007 9:11AM
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Hairmetaler
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Thats so dumbass there is no way there shutting down parks all over the country.
Apr 19 2007 9:55AM
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chickenwang
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thats why they have those fancy "freestyle skills required, use at your own risk" signs at the entrance of every park ive even been in
Apr 19 2007 10:18AM
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ski_cartel
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Personally I think that is absolute bullshit. I work as park crew in the winter at a hill called snow valley. I work hard to make the features the best they can be, but the most maintained features can destroy someone as easly as a shit feature. I think the rider needs to take as much responsibility as the park crew does. Thats why I will straight up tell a rider that they are not allowed to hit a certian feature, if they hit it anyway then i take away their pass for anywhere from 1 hour to indeffinatly. Im not about to lose my job because some idiot hits a feature they are not ready for. The whole senario that if some gets hurt that its immadatly park crews fault is absolut bs and im a bit sick of it.
Apr 19 2007 12:09PM
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Gnarzecki
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I'm suing you for being to hot for tv.
Apr 19 2007 12:12PM
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tride
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Yes, you moron, he does have to take "total responsibility" for going too fast and overshooting a jump.

You are basing your statement that the jump was "poorly built" on a liability laywers argument. People who ski and ride that park say the jump was fine. A lawyer standing to make lots of money on an injury, can and will argue that any jump is poorly built.

A mistake such as starting 200 feet too high and pointing it at a 25 foot table would likely result in a catastrophic injury regardless of how well or poorly a jump is built.

Considering your thoughts regarding personal responsibility, you should STAY THE FUCK OUT OF TERRAIN PARKS!
Apr 19 2007 12:44PM
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Tucks
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Bull shit
Apr 19 2007 2:01PM
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nitsua
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poor kid and all but why on earth would every resort knock down every jump do u relize how redic that sounds. Maybe just the jumps where he fell but not everywhere. breck is known for its jumps so why would they take it down?
Apr 19 2007 2:17PM
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*DwC*
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yea..it was the kids fault but i still fell bad for him.
Apr 19 2007 3:43PM
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