go to the sia site on the front page theres a whole thing about them
"In rode the Lord of the Nazgul. A great black shape against the fires beyond, he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgul, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.
All save one. There, waiting silent and still in the space before the gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax : Shadowfax, who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dinen."
Talked to the rep about them, and he brought a pair by my mountain for me to rip around on for an afternoon. I demo'ed the "twin-tip" White model. I put twin-tip in quotes because the tail of the ski is really not all that raised on the pair I skied. I don't know if it was an early prototype model or what, but the tail has a concerningly low amount of rise to it. Newer recreational skis like Legends/Metrons have a more turned up tail than Palmer's "twins." I don't know if they have changed this design since beginning full on production, but at this stage in the game when tails on twins are getting higher and more pronounced as riders spend an increasing amount of time skiing switch, I think they are going to have a hard time selling it as a twin-tip model.
The front of the ski is pretty soft and the tail fairly stiff. Park ski stiff, not race ski stiff. The flex actually reminds me of the K2 Fujatives from years past if anyone is familiar with those(soft front, stiff tail). The 08 Fujatives are completely different so I'm not talkin about those.
I was not all too impressed with how the ski rode. Even though it was almost brand new, it skied with a dead feel to it that lacked the pop I've come to expect from park boards. I skied it in spring like snow and the fact that it was soft up front and had a fairly wide tip to let it float up was kinda nice, but I like to go all sorts of speeds when I ski, and the Palmer is definitely a cruising ski. Pretty sketchy even when straightlining a short pitch into the biggest hit at my hill which is only a 40 or so foot hit.
I could say more, but don't feel like its worth it. I talked to the rep about pricing, and as a rep for like 5 or 6 different companies he knows the prices stuff usually ends up selling for at "street price." Therefore, I was surprised to hear him say that Palmer expects to get $800+ for the twins and $1200+ for the carving model(Black model).
I was kinda stoked to see what Palmer was going to bring to the market, but ended up pretty disappointed. This ski woulda been cool and at the head of the twin tip pack five or six years ago, but today its nothing special. There are better park skis and better carving skis for $500 less in both genres.
hmm, well i asked that guy in the pic (he's been at keystone a lot recently) and he seemed to like them. and his have a bunch of eyes on them, no a solid black or white. from what i saw, they were decent sized tails, not huge, but not small, kinda like 3/4 size, like TM height, definitely enough to rip switch on.
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Ryan, thats sam, im surprised you don't know him, he is always out and about. but those skis he is on in that picture have regular tails. they are also coming out with a ski that is kinda rockerd. hard to explain but really cool :)
'what?' Lauren every time you ask her a question for the first time!skiing what i thought this was a porn site and every one i was talking to were sexy ppl ..i thought skiing was a sex term we all uesed. damn!-twintiprider
Ya these were definitely not TM height, which is why I noted that I wondered if it was one of the earlier prototype models that they were playing with the flex or some other aspect of the ski. Although maybe it was a production model and after a few years of tails getting higher and higher it just looked really small. However, the consensus among the crew that I was riding with was that none of us would be landing anything switch on any other snow than smooth hardpack.
The skis rode really well, but it is hard to convince anyone that is going to be using these on rails and jumps to spend $750 on a ski alone. The Carving ski (which is a dead market) was $1200 and felt like something you could get for the $600 range from other companies. Great concept, but too expensive.
I recently bought these skis about 2 months ago. A very expensive ski, not a well though out purchase. The design is what got me though. They're very soft and the tips are exceptionally small in the back. I dont see how palmer can classify these as twin tips when they are only less that half of the tip in the front. they handle well in powder but are too soft for heavy pipe. probably going to sell them, any buyers?!