Dude, joke's totally on them, you should make a t-shirt that says 'all you fools suck' and on the back it can say 'I rule coz T-dawg said so' and yeah, you'll be rockin it shibby, new steeze brah, wikkid! ~PhattTim
i just picked up a refurbished 30gig video from apple.com for $186(they charged me tax those douchebags). it just came the other day and it looks the same as if i bought a brand new one but i saved 70 bucks. they have 60 gigs for 230 i believe.
yup, this is what i was going to recommend. you cannot tell the difference between a refurb ipod from apple.com and a "new" ipod at all, except for the box that it comes in (other sites sell refurbs too, but they don't always look new). everything you get with a new ipod, you get in the refurbished one. they replace the casings and such so it looks completely new.