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Frostfired
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ok so im making a mountain bike i have a question would i need diff brake lever thing (brake/shifter combo) for hydrolic disk brakes then for just the reg disk brakes also what is the main diff between hydrolic disk breaks and the reg ones
Jun 24 2006 10:17PM
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casualfiasco
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hydrolic brakes are more reliable but they can also leak and then you are fucked and it is easier to fix regular disk brakes, also you wont need different brakes (not counting brake lines) unless you have shifters and brake levers combined because i think that might change something but im not 100%.... hope i helped
Jun 24 2006 10:20PM
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Frostfired
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also im like 5'6 120pounds looking to do mostly trails and sum dirt jumps what size frame would be good?
Jun 25 2006 12:36AM
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r.w
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Depends on whether your running single speed or not. if your running a casette on the back the only your right trigger will need a combo, but i suggest single speed. and it also depends on whether you want cable or hydrolic.
Jun 25 2006 12:40AM
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camp_champ
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hydrolics are not neccessisarliy(i fucked up that spelling) more reliable, it depends on what mechanical(normal disc) you comparing to what hydrolic. The avid 5 and 7 bearing mechanicals preform better then some hydrolics, as for frame size i would go with a medium, but you should check them out at a store cause the geometery on every frame is differnt and that will change the ride. stp by giant or the specialized p. series sounds like what you want, ifyou want a hard tail dirt/urban if not look into the jamis xlt series
Jun 25 2006 1:36AM
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ski_cartel
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for your size/weight/agressive-ness you dont need hydro's. If you just wana drop some coin to get some its fine but id stick with the regular disk brakes, if only cause theres less chance that they will break on you
Jun 25 2006 2:06AM
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hurrisun
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ur trying to build up your own bike and u dont no the difference beetween hydrolic discs and reg discs and wat size you are? this can only end in tears
Jun 25 2006 9:36AM
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line1260skier
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Hydros like to break, the best ones i have had now are avid juicy 5s and 7s, hayes 9s have goot power for a year and work fine then they shit the bed and everytihng fucks up o nthem. (has hapopend to 2 of mine and i broke somtihng in the lever assambely on another in 2 weeks)
Jun 25 2006 10:40AM
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Frostfired
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ok so ill stick to the mechanical ones also what size frame to u think would suit me im 5'6 120 pounds and ride mostly trails and dj
Jun 25 2006 11:58AM
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hurrisun
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15
Jun 25 2006 12:00PM
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ArabianKnight
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there is no hydraulic disc brake on earth that can use the same lever as a mechanical disc brake. hydralic brakes give more modulation where mechanical just look cool because of the rotor. if your getting mechanical you might as well get rim brakes. many hydros come with pre bled lines so its not hard to put them on.
Jun 25 2006 12:34PM
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tBatt
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hydraulic - fluid. mechanical - cable. you cant use the same lever. hope that helped cause its all i know
Jun 25 2006 12:37PM
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dtn13
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what frame
Jun 25 2006 1:31PM
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Frostfired
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change in plans this guy wants to sell me a ironhorse sonic with T4 gillas 18' for 300 CAD what do u guys think im not a hard core mountain biker or anything i like to do trails and some Dj im just starting out and as i said im not a big guy 5'6 120pounds should i jump on this deal?
Jun 25 2006 2:37PM
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mothaeast
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18 as in the fram size? if thats the fram size than its way too big. I have a 17 and i'm 6'2"...
Hydros would be too big of an investment for a DJ bike, especially if youre light, and if you dont take care of them well they fuck up real nicely
I suggest a 15 for fram size, maybe even a bit smaller if you are really looking to throw your bike around, like if you do urban or something.
Jun 25 2006 4:49PM
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Frostfired
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its 18' with 24' weels if it make any diff
Jun 25 2006 6:04PM
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ESfreeridepa
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in all honesty buy my bike. kona shred. small 15 inch
Jun 25 2006 6:43PM
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camp_champ
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mechanical brakes are much better then v-brakes you cant say fuck the disc, get v-brakes with rubber pads that do shit in mud. disc brakes will out preform in all conditions.
Jun 25 2006 7:39PM
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Frostfired
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i would but you are all the way in the us and it complicated to ship plus i dont have 500 us
Jun 25 2006 8:28PM
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titsLOL
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umm mech discs also give you waay more braking power, you're nuts. for downhilling definately hydraulic, for super lightweight (or on a budget) xc rims, for anything inbetween mech discs are the way to go because you get awesome stopping power with minimal maintenance.
Jun 25 2006 9:43PM
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titsLOL
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oh and to answer your more recent question 18 would way way to big for you to jump with, or even to ride trails with. I'm six foot and my xc bike is 17.5 and my jumping bike is 16, could probably go 17 though I've just had it for a little while. But for a definite answer on what size is right for you go to a bikeshop. If its a half decent shop the first thing they'll help you with is sizing anyway.
Jun 25 2006 9:46PM
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Anathema
Posts: 21048 - Karma: 5,061
i use a 15" frame and i'm 5'10. and 24" wheels? i don't think so..

but dude, i'd say stick to skiing. if you took the initiative and decided to research and learn the answer to all these boneheaded questions you're asking, then it would be clear that biking interests you. based on what you're asking, it seems you just want to spend a fortune on a nice bike in hopes you will get into it. your logic is alllllll wrong.
Jun 25 2006 9:55PM
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Anathema
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p.s, trail bikes and dirt jumping bikes are totally different. you will not be able to find one bike that can accommodate both needs perfectly
Jun 25 2006 9:58PM
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hurrisun
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a kona stuff/shred would be good or get a specialized hardrock its average for like every time of biking besides DH
Jun 25 2006 10:01PM
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Anathema
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yeah the stuff is nice, but the only problem is if you go for a long bike ride, you're going to be leaning down on your handle bars for so long and its going to kill your back and arms
Jun 25 2006 10:04PM
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titsLOL
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anethema does have a point, if you want to only get one but you want to do both get a jumping bike. taking a jumping bike on trails might tire you out, but jumping an xc bike will frustrating and you'd probably die. as long as your not in a hurry a dj bike would be fun to play around on the trails with. and since your small you dont need that beefy of a dj bike so you could get one that wont be too killer to pedal around
Jun 25 2006 10:07PM
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Anathema
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definately agreed. either way, you're not going to get the best of both worlds, so i'd go for a jumping bike. take a look at the norco 125. it might be a bit heavy for you, but hey, it'll bulk you up. it's a pretty reasonable price for a real nice setup. there's also the kona shred which would be sick for what you want to do.. take a peek, see what you think about em.
Jun 25 2006 10:13PM
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oakleyaaa
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not as relialbe, not neceassary unless your riding downhill, you need a special lever because they have a cylinder in them, usually they are not built in combo with shifters, dont buy one unless extreme stopping prowess is needed
Jun 25 2006 10:22PM
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titsLOL
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yea my friend used to ride for norco, his hardtail was a 4hun that he used for 4x racing, jumping, and trail riding untill he got a fuse. He rode it with me and my friends on our xc bikes and he seemed to do pretty well actually, you should definately check that out.
Jun 25 2006 10:23PM
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Frostfired
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well i do mostly trails like 70% trails 30% jumps and even when i do go jump it is small jumps 4foot gap max would i be able to handle the 18 inch? cuz i could get a good deal on it and dont want it to go to wast
Jun 25 2006 11:24PM
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Anathema
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with an 18", you wont be able to stand over the frame without rubbing your nuts on it. not to mention you wont even be able to touch the ground when you're sitting on the seat. nuts always come first though.....

here's an idea. go to a local bike shop, check what they got in an 18", and see if you're comfortable with it! don't just guess dude. you gotta have some idea what you're doing before hand
Jun 26 2006 12:21AM
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ArabianKnight
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your nuts. any brake that can skid a tire has max power. a fucking coaster brake can do that. power comes in your tires. the longer your tires can keep traction before skiding, the more power you have.the advantage to disc brakes is it is harder to get them clogged with shit, it takes less force to apply more braking power, modulation is slightly increased.
Jun 26 2006 12:41AM
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Anathema
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much less succeptible to wear and tear.. v-brakes always need to be realigned, the pads wear down so quick, if you get any dents in the rim, you wont get even contact.. there's tons of things. disk brakes are far more efficient, and more reliable.
Jun 26 2006 12:58AM
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Frostfired
Posts: 3090 - Karma: 35
wait its 17' not 18' and ya anthama good advice nut always first ill go check it out fist
Jun 27 2006 12:31AM
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dat_ski_dude
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dude, just get mech. disk brakes. There easier and cheaper to maintain in the shop or on the trail you can fix almost any mech. disk problem with a park tool, which comes in handy on a really long ride. you dont need to bleed them or carry fluid on you at all times, and they stop you just as well as hydro. brakes will.
Jun 27 2006 10:29AM
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