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Bombing for peace is like screwing for virginity: American Propaganda

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Nine_Milla_Killa
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Unbelievable!
You wont waltz in there and beat every single Iraqi under the sun. Iraqis dont hate Saddam like Bush tells you they do. They hate YOU, in fact most of the world hates America whether they have the balls to admit it or not. Canada, GB, France... none of us can stand you.
When I was down there listening to the radio a month ago, the 'news' was basicly propaganda: No real facts or reporting... Instead they told you how evil Saddam was and how much terror he has caused. Honestly I was in shock, I have never heard such blatant propaganda before in my life and no one around me noticed.

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Mar 19 2003 12:17AM
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PurpleSkier
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i am american, and i cant stand bush, hes a fucking retard, and as you say, everyone hates him, france, germany, basically all the european countries other than great britain, so ya, he should listen to what the other countries say to him
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Mar 19 2003 12:19AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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No, Great Britain is like 75% against war, but not Tony Blair.
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Mar 19 2003 12:20AM
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there are still many Iraqis that hate Saddam and EVEN support Bush in his actions against him.
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Mar 19 2003 12:20AM
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How do you know, from the 'news'?
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Mar 19 2003 12:21AM
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yer fukin stupid and have no idea what the US is trying to do. so quit being a gay ass, and stop complaining. if nothing is done and we let sadaam keep going, the whole world is basicly fucked, and the people will say, why wasn't anything done? but if we get our shit done and stop him, peeps will still say see, nothing wuld have happened. its a lose lose situation.

and when you make gay remarks like that, have proof to back yer shit up.

Also, Bill clinton gave them money and facilities to build up their military, and biological weapons programs, so don't say shit about george bush. He is cleaning up the mess that bill and al gore left behind.
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Mar 19 2003 12:25AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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Where did you hear this? On the news?
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Mar 19 2003 12:26AM
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Aspen23NYC
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None of 'you' can stand Americans or America's leadership? We aren't all Bush supporters. As a matter of fact, the majority of this country doesn't support him; we didn't elect him, Gore won the general election. Bush is an imperialistic asshole and American citizens should not be judged on the basis of his actions.




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Mar 19 2003 12:26AM
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PurpleSkier
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well bush says sadamm is killing his own people, but wtf are we gonna do if we go drop some huge fucking bombs on these iraqui cities?
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Mar 19 2003 12:26AM
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yeah well if it wasn't for us then the world would be a bunch of nazi and japanese slaves
Mar 19 2003 12:26AM
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Ski-hobo
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no, we have some friends from Iraq and they and there reletives are elated about this. They say that their country will breath free after Saddam is gone. We talked with them for about 2 hours on the subject three nights ago.
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Mar 19 2003 12:27AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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You're right, you shouldnt be judged based on Bush, but you are. Like it or not, Bush represents you to the rest of the world. I havn't met an American I didn't like, but still you guys have a very bad name internationally, you just don't know it.
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Mar 19 2003 12:27AM
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j.bird
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and how exactly is he an asshole?
i wanted gore to win at first but now that all this shit has happened, i am glad bush won, gore never could have handled this foreign stuff. the democratic foreign policy is a fuking joke. basicly there isn't one. it says basicly, fuck the rest of the world, lets give them money and then don't care how they use it, just let them do whatever the fuck they want, all we care about is the US
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Mar 19 2003 12:29AM
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Aspen23NYC
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i realize we're hated. we have very few true allies left in the world. every hegemon eventually falls and we will too. the downfall of superpowers is usually overextending themselves internationally and that is exactly what we do. we need to focus on internal problems and stop trying to police the globe. iraq doesn't have the technology to hurt us from iraq and they are disarming. bush already won. i don't understand his objectives anymore.




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Mar 19 2003 12:33AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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wow, the first truly thoughtful and rational post I've read about this war.
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Mar 19 2003 12:34AM
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j.bird
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his objectives are to stop all operations that sadaam has going on, sadaam says that they are all being disarmed, but he also still threatens the us on a regular basis, and has many, many camps set up all around the world. his objectives are still the same. and how do u know that they are disarming, have you talked to iraqi workers???
all you have is the news. sure, sadaam says he is disarming and may have slowed down some weapons programs, but he is far from being completley disarmed. Sadaam cannot be trusted
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Mar 19 2003 12:39AM
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Ski-hobo
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good one Aspen, I hope that this thing in Iraq will be our last, then we can concentrate on the problems at home. However, I feel that we do some good outside our boarders, with aid and stabilizing problems in other countries.
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Mar 19 2003 12:39AM
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Aspen23NYC
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and yea i do get that from the news but it's from UN inspectors. they've witnessed the disarming and would have no reason to report falsely.




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Mar 19 2003 12:44AM
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j.bird
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the would have reason to lie and make false reports if soldiers had guns to their heads. but also sadaam has alot, and i mean alot of camps set up around the world, there is many in the US, but there cannot be stopped and closed down until we force him to do so. sadaam has always just barely skated by us and the un by technacalities.(sp?) he has never done his whole side of the bargain, and never will unless something is done now, we can't let him skate by us anymore.
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Mar 19 2003 12:47AM
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j.bird
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there has been alot of talking on the radio waves latley, and we can't really tell what is up but there is something going on in the US and it needs to be dealt with, thats why we have been on such high terrorist watch for the past 2 months, something should have been done then.
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Mar 19 2003 12:50AM
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SVHucker
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haha wow skiinstead I am calling you out. Can you give us some sources on how Bill Clinton and Al Gore helped Sadddam Hussein build up his military in the 1990s? Are you gonna ignore the fact that Halliburton sold $73 million worth of oil production equipment to Iraq in the 1990s when Dick Cheney was CEO? And where exactly are these Iraqi camps in the United States??
Mar 19 2003 12:55AM
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Aspen23NYC
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i agree we need to take him out of power but we should pursue it in other ways. we don't need to kill innocent citizens. bush is a failure in diplomacy and he is dangerously close to turning the entire world against us. i am very fearful of the terrorist attacks that will inevitably occur on u.s. soil if we do indeed pursure this unjust war.




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Mar 19 2003 12:57AM
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aggreed nine milla killa!


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Mar 19 2003 1:05AM
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lagwagon
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volkipro do you vote, if so good, if not stop complaining, its as much our fault hes in there than the people who voted for him, but im on your side so don't hassle me, im just saying stop complaining if you don't vote, thats what hippies do.
Mar 19 2003 1:36AM
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aggreed^


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Mar 19 2003 1:42AM
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1080enemy
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I love how parkboy includes himself in helping to win ww2. The thing I wonder about is how bush can be this way about iraq, yet completely ignore north korea, other than the lack of oil in N korea
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Mar 19 2003 1:47AM
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Bundo
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see guys, the thing is that innocents are gonna die either way, its pretty much impossible to try and do anything and not have an innocent die. another thing is that the press blows everything out of proportion so don't judge all americans on press, because the press is press. and another thing is, it seems like america is the only country that has the balls to do anyting about this situation. canada just sits behind america and lets them do all the work and france is stuck up. we have given them 12 years to comply to the UN Sanctions, have they? nope. it is probably a good time to take some action. and also, by taking a few innocent lives, we save a lot more. in any war innocent people will die, its inevitable.

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Mar 19 2003 1:49AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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'by taking a few innocent lives, we save a lot more.'

I have never heard anything so ignorant in my life. What if those few lives were your mother, your father and your brothers and sisters. How would you view the United States then?
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Mar 19 2003 1:52AM
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'in any war innocent people will die, its inevitable.'

so why don't we not go to war!!!! The us could lift its sanctions on iraq, and let the people do more than survive. pretty much the only thing they can export is oil. every truck of oil that comes out a truck of food comes in. nothing else is alowed to travel in or out of iraq.

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Mar 19 2003 1:56AM
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Because that wouldnt be fun, just smart.
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Mar 19 2003 1:59AM
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hell dude, they don't even have anough food


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Mar 19 2003 2:00AM
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have you heard about the things sadaam has done to the people of iraq? He will take familys out of their homes, take the mothers and daughters and have them gang raped infront of their families. he is killing more innocent people, and will have killed more innocent people that the US will. and by not going to war even more innocent people will die man, because sadaam kills them.

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Mar 19 2003 2:04AM
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Again, how do you know? Because Bush tells you so. Why? To get you to want to go to war. He cant do this if you dont support him.
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Mar 19 2003 2:06AM
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Mar 19 2003 2:14AM
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after the gulf war saddam was supposed to disarm and follow Un sanctions. It was the hope of the U.S. that the Iraqi people would overthrow Saddam and take him out of power so the U.S. wouldn't have to as a nation and look bad. Well the attempted coups were mowed down with machine guns and helicopters. these people the curds (sp) and shietis (sp) in the north and south regions of Iraq have been tortured and persecuted by saddam. Along with this and his blatent disregaurd for the UN and the terms at the end of the gulf war I feel the the U.S. has enough casues to go in and forcebly make him follow these rules. As for france and germany not backing this...well lets see how many times has the U.S. saved frances ass? hmm WWI, WWII, Vietnam... And germany started both world wars so i don't think them telling the U.S. not to go to war is very creditable. Also you may know that France said that they will join the war effort IF biological or chemical weapons are used by Iraq. so basiclly they just want physical proof of the lack of dearmament insted of the total lack of evidenc Saddam has given to prove that he has gotten rid of them. thier are still large amounts of anthrax and other chemicals un accounted for. please don't judge the U.S. unitl you've heard the entire story or at least done more reading on the subject
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Mar 19 2003 2:14AM
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no bush did not say that, other people have, there are reports on it, the european parliament did a report on it in 2002, you can find them on the internet. He has taken all the men out of Kurdish Villages and had them shot, he uses kids as target practice, he will blow up random buildings just to test explosives. Tons of iraqies have died at the hand of their own leader, sadaam hussien.

http://www.iraqfoundation.org/reports/hum/2002/amay/14_europeanparliament.html

here is the website if you need proof.

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Mar 19 2003 2:16AM
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what about antartica? who is controlling the penguins they are the real enemies

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Mar 19 2003 2:23AM
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http://www.iraqfoundation.org/hr/2002/cdec/27_uday.html
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Mar 19 2003 2:29AM
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you have to read the article above.
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Mar 19 2003 2:32AM
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Mar 19 2003 2:42AM
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theres no way to win or get respect. back in ww2 france and britain took a policy of appeasement and now everyone looks back and thinks they were morons. now bush is going preemptive and everyone thinks hes a moron. when do you win? wait till the exact moment someone makes a move and then strike with measured force in that little amount of time. its not possible.
Mar 19 2003 5:10PM
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nine milla and the rest of you anti ameerican ignorant FUCKS... go rad about the 'Oil For Food' program.. then tell me why nothign should be done when sadamm takes all teh money to buy weapons...


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Mar 19 2003 5:21PM
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Im an American and i cant stand this fucking country and what its become. But i do like mcdonalds and ski resorts.

Mar 19 2003 5:28PM
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seward
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incase you havnt noticed

bush and saddam are like two fucking kids in a play ground.
listen to a fucking half hour of cnn, and if your not american you will laugh your ass off.

like fuck commen, your exchangin comments like your and idiot, and you dont know what your doing. suck it up your pussies.

its so fucking sad that we have things like the un to prevent fucking wars, and one of the leading memebers wants a far.

like honestly fuck off
cause it effects the rest of the world.

unbelieveable that we are in the year 2004 and we still havnt learned that wars dont solve shit.

all i can say is smarten up, the world is not americas oyster, and let other countries do whatever they want.

they say they dont have weapons so they dont, now fuck off. millions are gonna be killed and for what?

oil?
so called protection of citzens?

hate to tell you but its not wroth it.


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Mar 19 2003 5:32PM
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yeah, but what can you expect, bush is blood thirsty, he has to find some way to brainwash us to think that killing is good.
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Mar 19 2003 5:34PM
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^^^stupidest post ever.

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Mar 19 2003 5:37PM
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i can understand bush's perspective, i mean come on, blowing shit up is fun!
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Mar 19 2003 5:54PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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Icerider you are completely missing the point. You are so blinded that you can't take 2 seconds to look at the facts rationally. Plus you didn't read my post right if you think I'm listening to the government. I'm appalled by what the government is telling us.
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Mar 19 2003 7:27PM
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Word to ICE.....milla get a clue and the rest of you stop spouting out what you think. we need facts. P.S. if france hates us so much then why did they just say they will join the war as soon as iraq uses chem or bio weapons?? Tell me why France wishes to remain out of the war...if you think its because they dont agree with US actions then you are more wrong than you already are.
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Mar 19 2003 7:57PM
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bush is blood thirst...he is a cold blooded killer....americans are war mongers....blah blah blah. you are all retards who fall into the media more than the most uninformed person. watch this video and you will see yourself!

http://www.brain-terminal.com/articles/video/peace-protest.html
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