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denver11
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So Im sure by now everyone has heard that the Dept. of Defense has released the entire tape of the pentagon attck. In this video they say that you can clearly see the 737 crash into the pentagon. I personally think that this video released today proves even more that it was not a 737 that crashed into the Pentagon, but a much much smaller plane. If you watch the video you see for one frame a small white plane come into the frame. Then it explodes as it hits the Pentagon. The plane looks more like a small 15-20 ft. long Cessna plane rather than a 150-200 ft. long passanger plane. It is clearly not a huge airliner.

Its stuff like this that makes me so upset. The govt. actually thinks that this clears the conspiracy up. They are so stupid to think we would believe a giant 737 hit the Pentagon when there is no evidence of this. The hole that was made my the plane was 16ft across. Thats really small compared to the 120ft. wingspan of a 737. And also they say the plane vaporized...Im sorry but that is just not possible at those temperatures.

Sorry im just ranting on and on about this and I know all of you have watched loose change.

Well take a look at the new footage and let me know what you think about it.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml
May 16 2006 5:31PM
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t-man152
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-I shot Kennedy
-The Moon is an optical illusion so no one could ever land on it
-I shot at the pentagon with my paintball gun. some people thought it was a 737 some people thought it was a small aircraft. no it was my paintball gun. it did more damage than I thought it was


im sorry for all these mix ups.
now that you know all of this you can go back to jerking off,playing video games, or whatever it was you were doing before you decided to help the world by uncovering the truth that will make all of us Revolt against the government.
May 16 2006 5:38PM
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ride_switch
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Dude, if you want conspiracy stuff about the government, go to infowars.com, and click on the Bohemian Grove stuff. Its video of a guy who infiltrated into a secret meeting in that grove. People in the gov( including George Bush), like go there and worship a big stone owl, Its kind of wierd, but its real.
May 16 2006 5:41PM
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FuckThePolice
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a 737 didint crash into the pentagon it was a 757 you dumbass
May 16 2006 5:41PM
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denver11
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What a fucking douchebag...So your saying that you really dont care if the governtment killed thousands of its own citzens just so the public would back us going to WAR and so that certain people could make millions of dollars.

Im sorry buddy but people like you are fucking pathetic!!! Your too fucking stoned and retarded to have an actual opinion of anything.
May 16 2006 5:42PM
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yeti
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those frames were leaked a long time go.

At this point, i dont know how anyone could still believe the official story.
May 16 2006 5:49PM
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denver11
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ok well regardless of what they say hit the pentagon it was not that big at all. Can you truthfully say that this video convinces you that a giant plane hit the pentagon. Cause if you believe that you obviously didnt watch the video. Our govt is fucking corrupt and certain officials are making millions off of this!
May 16 2006 5:49PM
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ride_switch
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I agree, are government is corrupt, go to www.infowars.com
May 16 2006 5:52PM
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Bob_Loblaw
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If I could change one thing about America, I would have the citizens look at everything objectively.
May 16 2006 5:53PM
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DunDunDun
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yea i think that the gov't def. had a hand in the attack.
May 16 2006 5:57PM
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MADr.
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well there were about 4 frames total with a plane in them.

ok now how hard is it for you NSers to photoshop something like that in there.

how hard would it be for the government with its insane amount of funding to photoshop those frames.

that video doesnt prove anything.
May 16 2006 6:05PM
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t-man152
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when did this become about caring?

ok the government made 9/11 happen wether alone or with another group. so that they could go to war against another country.

great its been proven now lets see what can we do about it?.... hey I know. we can go tell our Daddies and mommies tell them that thousands of other 12-24 year olds online are convinced that the atacks were done by the government. and they can go talk to the governments parent's and have them grounded



most people on this site have parents with good jobs. skiing is a sport enjoyed by people in the upper middle class and above. most people in this class werent affected too harshly by september 11th. in the lower classes on the other hand many people were affected and lost their jobs. almost like the great depression.

well war is the only solution to that problem that we have in this century to get over major job loss. war creates jobs, war is good,

the end of great depression was WW2
the avoidance of a great depression was the war in Iraq.

so what is it you want exaclty?
-you want Bush to go to Jail. who knows if he had anything to do with it,

-you want us to overthrow the government? why would the majority of the population who thanks to these events have jobs want to overthrow a government thats fine.

-or maybe you want everyone to see just how great you are at politics and how you after watching a documentary (that has been proven wrong on many of their claims) and reading a couple of website have uncovered the truth.
May 16 2006 6:32PM
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t-man152
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I agree
May 16 2006 6:33PM
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denver11
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Ok fucking asshole!!! Obviously im not asking you to go tell you fucking parents about this. I am just expressing how I feel about this. All that I want is for the govt. to be truthful about what happened that day. I am just trying to spread the word that a lot of things dont make sense. Both sides, the govt and the conspirators(I dont even know if that is a word) have a lot of holes in their stories. I just want some group or something to be able to investigate the whole incident. But we all know that this will never happen.

But........everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that is all that I am doing. I understand that you are just sharing yours as well, but it seems to me like your just another one of the, let me guess your 15 or 16 and you live in colorado, lets say...Lakewood....your just another one of the kids on this site that have to talk shit to everyone about everything they say, cause no matter what they are fucking "dumbasses" and you are the one with the ultimate opinion and you are right.

Buddy you dont have to talk shit to everyone. I am so tired of people talking shit on this site, there is no reason we are all skiers and we should all get along.
May 16 2006 6:42PM
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t-man152
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I have never talked shit on this site. I just dont agree with everyone


I live in LA in california. although I would love to live in Colorado for the skiing

since May 13th I am 19

ohh right and before I moved to LA in August of last year I lived in New York and I was there for 9/11

I knew 9 people who were in the twin towers on 9/11

only one of them survived.
May 16 2006 7:05PM
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AtomicTweaker
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haha your right
May 16 2006 7:10PM
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AtomicTweaker
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its all a conspiracy...the governments out to get us AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
May 16 2006 7:11PM
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Rhastaman420
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Word
May 16 2006 7:19PM
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JockinJLoads
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yeah man that def didnt look like a huge plane to me, i think this is only going to cause more problems
May 16 2006 7:28PM
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AKFREERIDE
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no my friend, you, are the one whos stoned and fucking pathetic. seems to me like your one of those people who thinks its cool to hate on the government. dont get me wrong, i hate bush, but for proven and legit reasons.

but your theory on conspiracy is fucking ridiculous. that plane was traveling so fast you hve no idea. also, that camera, not the best in the world, used for getting car drivers on tape, not a 757 going who god knows how fast. back your shit up before you go around telling people your own government killed thousands of people.

and for what dude, why would they kill those people. why would they make the stock market crash. for an excuse to go to war? no. killing pentagon employees? why would they do that?

one more thing, if you think the government conspired to the terrorist attacks on 9/11, that would mean either osama bin laden is A) working for the US, or B) not an actual person. kinda hard to believe.

so back it up with somethin more than a grainy video tape and a fucked up brain in your head next time you cunt bag.
May 16 2006 9:03PM
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Quinny
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Quoting myself from another thread.

"What would be easier to figure out?

a) The physics and logistics of the precise conditions and circumstances of the event, considering all variables and determining factors such as: type of fuel, amount of fuel, burning temperatures, wind speed, weather conditions, weight of plane, combustible items both inside and out of the aircraft, precise structural integrity of the building, what precisely is inside the plane and buildings at the time, the trajectory of the moving object, the force of the moving object, displacement, mass, weight, time AND total energy discharged?

b) Finding out what happened to a bunch of people and a big plane?

So, what would be easier to solve?

It's like when you computer won't turn on. You could dismantle the whole thing, rewire the switches, test the power supply, and check the cables, collaborate the microchips, hard drive, and motherboard...then you realize the computer wasn't even plugged in."
May 16 2006 9:18PM
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arsenal601
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change

Watch the video, it was shown to me by my sister (skiller1080). I was extremely skeptical at first but this video will likely change your enitre view on the debate. Its an hour and 20 minutes lond and worth every second.
May 16 2006 9:47PM
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PimpDaddySkier
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EVERYONE WATCH THIS VIDEO, IT WILL CERTINALY CHANGE YOUR THINKING
May 16 2006 9:49PM
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awsomecoolguy
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nuff said
May 16 2006 9:49PM
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mad_540_trix
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what happened to the official story of the plane skidding on the grass?


i guess the gov't realized that people had videotapes of the incident and gave up on that one.
May 16 2006 10:52PM
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44Rounder44
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THE VID IS FAKE STOP ACTING AND THINKING THAT ITS REAL..... you fucking morons
May 16 2006 10:59PM
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44Rounder44
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that video that arsenal posted is all bullshit...
May 16 2006 11:05PM
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Chubby.Chaser
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i agree here

i found the misspelling of words in the one of those "documentaries" lent a lot of legitimacy to their claims
May 16 2006 11:09PM
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zmanalex
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Hilarious
May 17 2006 1:01AM
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CooksCorner
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Ya...uh dude its fine to have your opinions and everything, im down with that, but tman never called you an asshole or a douche bag, he's just expressing what he thinks so turn down the hate.

Personally i dont know where i stand. Things are a definatly flaky about 9/11 but i refuse to believe that a couple of corrupt bereaucrats decided to kill a bunch of their own people to cause a war, all with the end goal of making money...doesnt that strike you as a little off the deep end?

The second thing i KNOW is that the government knows a hell of a lot more than we do about this incident and the state of the world. I went down to DC for a very exclusive leadership conference, 400 kids from around the country, and got to war-game (that is practice fake crisis situations) in the same buildings that top officials do. Let me tell you that conflicts are ALWAYS dumbed down for the public to debate. If the truth of the whole situation were let out, it would be pandemonium. I hate to use a 24 reference because i think that show is crap, but i would bet my college education on shit like that happening in the real world...not so sensationalized odviously.

Okay well...you can think that its all a conspiracy if you want to, thats your right as an American and a human being, but dont think that a regime change would drill out that cavity you call corruption. If what you think is really true then the sickness in our government has run so deep that no politician, maybe not even God (whatever that is) could save us.
May 17 2006 1:25AM
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Ghst
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Your theory is wrong

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May 17 2006 1:49AM
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manwiththemetalleg
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For a start don't believe everything you see on the internet...
Secondly, let say you are right. It is a huge conspiracy and the Government planned the attacks themselves. Now, if they did this, you have to ask yourself what the reason was. It obviously wasn't to make money for personal use...there are a lot easier and less risky ways to do that if you are high up in Government than to blow up a load of your own citizens.
If they did do it, the reason remains unknown, but i'd bet anything that it was for the greater good of your country. That may sound stupid, but why would the Government kill so many people on whom it relies on to stay in power? I mean, if people did find out, they'd be royally fucked. They wouldn't instigate a terrorist attack for fun...thats a bit silly.
The only reason for the Government to have played a role in 9/11 would be to either maintain security of your country in the long term, or maintain its economic stability in the long term. Either way, it would be justified.

However, after saying all that, it is not at all likely to have anything to do with the Government. The fact is, a shitload of countries in the Middle-East (and other places) hate the good ol' USA. They want you to die. Terrorist attacks on a 9/11 scale happen all the time, and just because it was in New York, does not mean that yourown Government did it. At the end of the day, without the Government that you all hate, you'd be in the shit.
May 17 2006 8:38AM
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denver11
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ok asshole!!!.....watch the fucking movie and you wont be able to disagree with me anymore. ANd I did back shit up you fucking piece of shit!
May 17 2006 10:52AM
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denver11
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change
May 17 2006 10:53AM
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sniper_6
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we've all seen that plenty of times. its been posted a lot for the past few years. did you happen to catch the post with the link to i believe it was the popular mechanics site? they disporved every single point that movie made. you conspiritors are morons. just think about it for a second and you will realize how incredibly rediculous the whole idea that our govnt caused 9/11 is. the fact that the video is called "loose change" should disprove it. its just things that dont quite fit. if there was this huge conspiracy, it would have unraveled by now. they wouldnt be stray facts like a random guy testifying that he thought he may have seen another plane in the vacinity when flight 93 crashed in the field. then add to that the fact that all the things they brought up as major points were totally debunked. you're prolly some 14 year old that believes everything he sees.

also, you think its a cessna that ran inot the pentagon? dude it just looks so small cuase its the nose of the plane in the one frame of the picture.
May 17 2006 11:43AM
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Petey.
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yea we saw that on CNN Student News this morning...they said that no one was allowed to see it outside the gov. until now
May 17 2006 11:43AM
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casimiro
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have you actuallymever seen the pentagon? it is a massive, fucking gigantic building. that could have been a 757 easily, if you've ever flown you would know that these are not that "big" of a plane. listen you must be young because you are just now gettinginto your conspiracy theory, ther gov will alway lie, they will screw us, thats what they do and no matter what you think you can do to stop it you are mistaken. our votes don't count. our voices don't matter the only thing that matters to them is money so if you can change the way we use/make/percieve/distribute money then you might have a chane at change but other than that fuck it it does'nt matter we will all live or die.
May 17 2006 12:06PM
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t-man152
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actually I think I see the truth now.

A video RELEASED BY THE GOVERNMENT is proof that the GOVERNMENT was lying and KILLED thousands of its OWN CITIZENS.

think about it it makes sence. they felt guilty

in fact this morning they emailed a confession asking me to please not share it with anyone but I think you guys have a right to know.

the Email:

"hey Tim hows it going. its the government here and I wanted to clear up a couple of things. you know all those bad things that have happened in the last century well I caused it. I do feel sorry but I dont know its a disorder. theirs no reason behind most of these things. luckily the internet wasnt around back in the early 1940s because if kids back then had shared their knowledge about our part in The Holocaust then we might have been screwed. well please delete this email and do not under any cercumstances show this email to anyone
-your friend The Government"


seriously why are all of your arguments so double sided. on one had your saying the government is smart enough to organize huge plots with tons of people involved where no one who had something to do with it becomes guilty and confesses

and on the other hand your saying that their so stupid as to release information that PROVES that they are guilty
May 17 2006 12:37PM
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Badfish2
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screw this, i'm going to see a real conspiracy theory - aka da vinci code
May 17 2006 12:45PM
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pag
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Personally I'm not believing in the conspiracy tehory. But the fact that The Bin Laden Family are really good friends with Bush Family, that they all left the US on the 9/11 day. ANd when you know WW2 was started because some polish(that were german for real)soliders attacked some german position...there is still a doubt and I don't think that in that video the thing that exploded looked like a plane...and If you think that G.W. Bush gives a fuck about people diying...all his friends owns weapon factories,and the US defense program budget could feed the planet for 2 years... so i'm pretty sure he don't give a fuck... over 2000 solider died in Irak and he doesn't plan of pulling back yet...and Irak wasn't a threat for US at all, No Weapon of Mass destruction and no realtion with any terrorist organisation and there is 2000 soliders that died + I don't know how many thousand civilians...Just think about it... 2 500 peopl deied on 9/11, it's the same as now in irak and that was a good reason to be reelected. I'm saying it's true but why it couldn't be true? I just doubt of all the official things...
May 17 2006 1:11PM
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freestyleskiin
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auteully the theory with the moon is that it was a room at nasa set up to look and feel like the moon
May 17 2006 1:16PM
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t-man152
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I know and the reason they made that studio set in Area 51 is because they could not land on the moon since it is non-exisant.
May 17 2006 1:19PM
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Rosbif
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Ok, all the conspiracy stuff that's on the internet should clearly not be taken at face value, that's a given. But don't some of the coincidences just make you think about what actually did happen and why? I think some seriously dodgy an unexplained stuff has happened, and that people have the right to know. I haven't decided what the truth is because I don't have enough information, but I would really like to!

The point that people have made about it probably being in the countries interests, and it being a lot more complicated than people think is possibly true. Maybe the best interests of the U.S. were being followed, but that doesn't give the government a right to fuck with the rest of the world. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were pretty hard to justify with 9/11, without it, Bush would probably be in some serious trouble.

The point of all this stuff being released, and all these conspiracy theories, is that if enough people start to question what happened, an answer might be found.
May 17 2006 1:39PM
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Rosbif
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So assuming for a second that the U.S. government was behind 9/11, (which I don't actually believe) you're happy for british civilans and soldiers to have been killed in order to protect U.S. economic stability!!?? Not to mention the thousands of Iraqis and Afghans who have been killed as a result.

Seriosly, do you actually believe that?
May 17 2006 1:44PM
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cs1080
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looks like a missile
May 17 2006 1:47PM
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manwiththemetalleg
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Nope i'm not happy about it, i'm saying that if the U.S. Government had a role it would be to ultimately protect their citizens. They probably don't give a shit about ours, so of course i am not happy about our troops getting blown up in Iraq. I was just saying that Things do not happen for no reason. Whether i agree with our Goverment decisions is irrelevant.
May 17 2006 2:07PM
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t-man152
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thats me when I was 6 or 7, I totally forgot that I made that. my statement still stands though. DONT FUCK WITH ME OR ILL CUT YOU
May 17 2006 2:09PM
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siver-cartel
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the gov say that the plane debries were vaporized by intense heat
quoting alex jones 747 has two engine made out of titanium alloyed which is 9 feet in diameter and 12 feet and weight 6 tons titanium has a melting pouint of 1688 degrees ans jet fuel in a pure oxygen enviroment while burn a a maximum heat of 1000 so were the engines now
May 17 2006 4:45PM
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spudz
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Ive never believed that it was a missle more... look at it, its not big enough to be a plane.. even a small one. Definatelly too skinny.
May 17 2006 5:01PM
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Rosbif
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Yeah man, fair point that the U.S. government wouldn't shoot missiles at the pentagon and start wars for no reason, but you said it was justified, when it clearly isn't.

You just sounded horribly pro U.S. government, if you're not, that's cool.
May 17 2006 5:05PM
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spudz
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How the hell can you go off and just say Loose Change is all fake...they give some really good facts, you just did'nt watch the whole thing.
May 17 2006 5:09PM
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