What the fuck. People actually agree with Charlie Sheen.

Thats not true either.

What actors arent educated? if they play an educated person in a role of a movie, they'd better damn well know what theyre talking about.

no, you c'mon. you think an actor just reads lines?

they have to know about whats going on, and educate themselves as to the information given.

actors have to research for years sometimes.

Acting is excatly that and there is no truth to the intelligence that an actor portrays on screen. They may study a something very specific for roles but it's usually something like a person's life or an event. It's not like Matt Damon actually solved all those problems in "Good Will Hunting". The guy probably couldn't even pass a basic college calculus class.

his bro is EMILIO ESTEVEZ, so i kinda respect whatever he says, cuz they have the same blood

telestar, I have a 3.5 GPA whilst in a BSc in a respected university, and I did not pass this so called "basic calculus" test (i got a 44%, and only a few years before that i was the top math student in my high school).

Just though everybody would like to know. I lead a very interesting life. Someday, you'll read about it and think "I knew this before the book came out, oh i'm special, so special in fact that a book should be made in my honour because i witnessed such a monumental event.

^Well I'mnot doing so hot in College right now but I still got a "C" in A basic calculus class. So what's your point. Calculus isn't that difficult but some dumb actor sure as hell would find it to be and apparently so do you. I love it when people make my arguments for me. HAHA

I dont normally straight on attack people, its not my schtick. I attack them based on what they say or do or their tastes, not directly insult them. Me being a shit talker, almost never take anything personally. Most of what I say is sarcastic or cynical in some way. But Telestar, you bring new meaning to the word douche.
I can think of 2 explanations of why you are so dense.
#1, you are below the age of 16, lie about your age, and about taking calculus, etc. In which case, you are pathetic because even you dont find yourself to be truly worthy of anything, since you lie so people dont know your true self. You pbly lie to yourself thinking you are hot shit, but deep down inside you know that you lie because there is nothing impressive about you. Your posts suggest this, since you have been acting like an immature specimen, attacking things without a sense of relevancy just for the sake of attacking them. You also believe that because you can attack something without relevancy, it makes you appear greater than what you attack. Immaturity comes from not being able to see the logical fallicy of the previous two statements connecting. You are also unwilling to see beyond what is presented towards you, and will try to take anything that will make you seem better even though deep down inside, you may know it is a hoax.
B) You arent lying, in which case you are still pathetic because you only live in your own little world. You truly believe things said in sarcasm, or blatant fallicies if they are congruent to your beliefs about yourself and the world around you. It shows that you can shut things out that are relevant, and use information that is completely irrelevant. This shows you do not truly understand the point, purpose and idea behind almost everything because you are so seperate from those three concepts in your own reality.

If A) your obvious response would be more trash talk(in quality, not in definition). You would try to disprove this as much as possible, through the act of desperation that even you might see the truth that you have blinded even yourself to.
B) You will try to disect this argument, look for anything that may possibly be wrong, even if it is completely irrelevant. Or you will simply brush it off, because you possibly cannot see a world where this is possible.

I hope I am wrong about this, and I really dislike getting personal about these things. My shit talk is based on completely inpersonal things, but i seriously believe you have this coming.

No I'm not lying about my age or that I took a college level calculus class and passed it without too much effort. You say I live in my own little world but the only reason you've come to this conclusion is because I represent a differnt viewpoint than your own. You know nothing about me so don't try to lay judgment on me. At least I know what I feel on issues and I'm not affraid to voice a view that might not be very popular. You say I don't know who I am but clearly I doand I've shown it by standing behind my convictions.

As far as my arguments go mostly I just love a good debate though I truely am concerned with this issue and people's lack of trust in their own goverment. Attacking character is all part of a good debate. If you don't seem like an intelligent person I'm going to make sure to take full advantage of it. So don't be mad that I made fun of you for failing calculus. If you didn't want me to use it you shouldn't have given me the ammo. And now we've gotten on to this whole tangent about actors being not so bright which I stand by 100% and I think most people would too if they could pull their heads out of their asses long enough to take a look at where these peole are actually coming from.

Whatever dood you are the one who failed calculus. Sorry I tried not to make it personal.

You are all pathetic, why does it matter whether people think it's a conspiracy or not, no-ones proved or disproved anything, and some video on the internet isn't going to over-throw a government. I can't believe people are actually arguing over it.
1. Conspiracy believers - what do you want to do...are you going to do anything after watching this video concerning what you believe (apart from whining on an internet forum)?

2. Those that don't believe it - As it is obvious nothing is going to come of it, and you are so sure that they have no proof of a conspiracy, why do you care about the video or what some 'idiots' belive? How about just giggling to yourself and leaving it at that.


And if anyone wonders what i think...i don't give a shit, it's happened, and no amount of bitching is going to make any difference.

"terrorism" is an easy label used by governments which fail to acknowledge their own terrorist activities.

Wow! I guess all that American Nationalism really gets you types worked us doesn't it? Listen to the Man if you want, or don't. It's your country, If you think Bushs' a nice guy, well good for you, If you live in a shack in the woods wearing aviators and a hoody, you probably don't, well.. Good for you too.
It's an opinion, 9/11 sucked whether "we" or "they" are responsable, However, It's what was done afterward that counts now.. I guess it's just easiest to blame the (poor clueless) Iraqi's and blow up their country in retaliation...

I want to agree with you, but im holding back on forming an opinion. although i highly suspect youre right.

You dont know any actors, Im still amazed at how you think you know so mucha bout them, enough to say that theyre 'retarted'.

impossible.

Actors are dumbasses and if you can't see that then there is no reason for me to take your opinion seriously.

thats a ridiculous statement.

we're done here. we dont agree, and no one is going to make us.

I think actors are educated and societally aware people, capable of responsible decision making, whereas you think they are mindless drones used as pupppets by governments, film companies and corporations.

.... which they can be.

.......which doesnt negate them being educated and societally aware people.

Did you get foeced to ruba nd tug some actor when you were a kid?? You really have a hate on for these people.. Are there specific actors, or are they all "dumbasses" I guess that means all of us on NS are dirtbags. I've heard it's true!!

cuz sheen is god, comeon he has the #1 comedy on tv right now. plus hes a raging alcoholic, a true role model

shut up d-loc, try reading the threads before you post you lazy stoner.

NO POLITICS

no politics?

why dont you log off this forum and go back to MuchMusic.

or even better, call up Jessica Simpson and ask her out.

and then jump off a bridge when she says no.

cuz my girl resembles jessica simpson so no need to mess with the celeb

Doesn't it seem a bit stupid to say "Actors are dumbasses" or "Actors are smart guys"?

... I'm sure there are plenty of both in the SAG...

yeah i mean arnold schwartzinegger is a govenor... i guess they are all dumb though ;)

meaning that ahnold is actually extremely smart?... hmmm.

ahh telestar, you still dont seem to get it do you. Your complete ignorance absolutely amazes me. Even your response was completely predicted by me, and supported what I said in my arguments against you as a person. But still, you keep on trying.
"no no, stupid, dig UP"

haha from what I get out of this, telestar is more pissed off about charlie sheen than what was actually said.

Charlie Sheen fucked Denise Richards, therefore this conspiracy must be true.

what did charlie sheen say by the way?