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Like i said..... why mus we make skiing go in the wrong direction?
im gonna let the us open and the x-games results back up my stance. Switch huck show at the open. (all the same generic spins)(with hype of switch 10's) Switch huck show at the x. (still all generic switch 10's)
Okay so for all you who caught the moto x big air at the winter x-games and witnessed the gayness thrown down, the way every one was throwing a backflip with a no handed no footed variation was just plain retarded.
Its so pointless for all the riders to huck the same thing because then it just comes down to who the judges like better. Its not about ability or technicallity, its about who looked "cooler"
If i ever went to the open or x and everyone was spinning to win or doing the same trick, i would just bust a 3 or a 1 or a switch cork 5, just something dirty smooth and totally unique. mainstream skiing has lost the majority of its individualality. When 24 out of 40 jumps thrown are the same trick, fuck that. To the guys like rory b, or pep, or for that matter any one who didnt huck a switch 10, major props.
I remember back when i first got into skiing, the image line portrayed was all about being and individual and doing your own thing and hands down skiing was going the right direction when it first started to get popular, but now everyone has lost the individual mind set and their out there to do the newest thing. I c more kids doin the tanner hall double grab now days than ever before.
People need to start focusing on their skiing and not giving a flying fuck on their image. Now more than ever skiing style is mimicking snowboarding like no other.The whole goggles under the helmet steeze with a little sag in their, fuck that and be your own person.
And finally, fuck switch 10's
i agree, but this topic has already been beaten to death. let it rest.
i completely agree, it makes skiing look stupid
and whats up with the goggles under helmet, everyone was doin that
gogs under the helmet is where its at....and goggle sag is pretty much the definition of steeze.
The "right direction" is an opinion, it will vary from person to person. While some people see the bigger tricks as "anti-progression"(how?), some like to see new things thrown. Maybe instead of whining about what other people are doing, you should just ignore what you don't like and just have fun skiing.
i agree, the direction is opinion, but when majority agrees it turns to fact. Sure going to war in iraq could be viewed as the "right decision" but do you really think it is?
Why would i choose to ignore what is pissing me off? that is retarded. If a kid was slapping you in the face with a bologna sandwhich and you just said oh im gonna ignore you becuase im having fun, how much sense does that have?
Open your fucking eyes and look at it on a whole. fuck doing what will skiing become if we all do the same trick?
since we all emulate snowboarders so much, why dont we learn from them and not fuckin huck the biggest trick we can. Can any one say backside 180?
I dont give a shit if you dont agree, but everytime some dumbass, closed minded, fool makes a stupid comment saying im wrong, im gonna fry you to show that your counter arguments couldnt get a 2 yr old boy off
You're letting trivial things get to you too much, just settle down and accept whatever happens. I think I can speak for all when I say that we all ski to have fun, not to try to brainwash other people to believe our perspective of what is "right." Maybe if you don't like the direction of where skiing is going, you should try snowboarding since you seem to like that sport better.
ugh you write too much to read during the x games
ya they totally only threw the same trick backflip, snomobile=sw 1080 skiing, but the judges hated anything different, the guy who let go of his bike for like 2 seconds was so much sicker but the judges hated it, i dont like that judging carves out whats cool in a sport or not
agreed i thing rory b should of won just for the difrent style and whole new sick trick
SWITCH DOUBLE BACKS ARE NOTHING NEW
how can you really say that man? just because you like the whole baggy clothes, goggle sag, im too cool for school look your just getting mad at me because im saying what you like is wrong. I really dont care what you say about me but seriously try to make a decent argument.
I snowboarded for 6 years and honestly snowboarding has been able to progress so much more than skiing has due to the easyer ability of riding switch in powder.
Maybe if i dont like the direction skiing is going then maybe i should say something about it..........
So i have one question for you enima, or whatever your name is, do you think that 24 out of 40 runs in the us open were switch 10's is a good thing?
i highly dout any one who has posted on this thread can do a switch 10, so until you realize the difficulty of such a trick then i dont think you have room to dis on it. i cant do a switch 10 so i cant say that its lame.
How can you make rash generalizatons about what I'm like in an attempt to prove your point. For the record, I ski about 99% big mountain, and have yet to ski a park this year. And I agree with your point that 24 out of 40 jumps being the same trick is a bit repetetive and boring to watch, but at the same time you have to realize how amazing it is that skiing has come to that level this quickly. But once again I think I'm going to have to state that the tricks somebody you don't even know is throwing in a competition really have no effect on your ability to enjoy yourself at the mountain, so stop whining and go ski.
comps = money
when those guys are just out riding they aren't doing just switch 10s all day, they are doing all the other fun shit like huge cork 3, shifty 180s and just fun stuff.
The reason why 24 out of 40 ppl did a switch 10 is cause thats what the judges wanted... and the riders all want some of the cash also. this shit has been talked about way to much... ahhhhhhhhhh
dude so what you tellin me is that switch 10's just came onto the seen?
correct me if im wrong but didnt gangnier with the x-games last year with a switch 10 over the last booter?
Once agian, feel free to tell me if im mistaken, but didnt chriton pull a few switch 10's over that jump in aspen in his segment in RFA?
When it comes to the question of doing a new trick, i give schiller props for the 1440. In a way schiller almost made all those fools who were going for switch 10's look like idiots. He pretty much was like okay 2 can tango, and straight up slayed it.
Im not dissing on the tricks thrown, im dissing on why we, the majority, make it so that to win a comp, variation cannot be a factor.
Everyone who supports the throwing of the same trick to win the comp is not moving our sport in the right direction and it takes the masses to get anything done.
And to follow up on your point that my ability to continue enjoying myself on the mountain shouldnt be hindered by a comp, that was a major misconception on your part.
When i had heard that tj won the open with a switch 1440, i was in the middle of seshin our last jump in out terrain park, working on switch cork 7's. When i heard the news i automatically said to my self, wow thats gay it was a spin to win fest. Now from the way the open went down i've decided to never throw anything bigger than a 9 and the way the x-games went down just reinforces my opinion.
Enigma, i enjoy the points you make and the discussion they fuel. props
no bro its about skill, you can't do 180's I could throw a super smooth 180 or 3 over it cake you ahve to have tech tricks, but they should have different tech tricks
who cares...if you have fun keep skiing....
Throwing switch 10s in comps is not
"progression killer." Do you think judging would be any easier if it was entirely subjective -- that is, if judges judged on mostly style. Fuck no, it's way easier to judge who does the most tech and biggest trick.
Besides, just because you see a lot of switch tens does not mean that switch tens are going to be in all the movies. If you need to throw switch tens every once in awhile to progress your career then good.
Once i see ski movies with ridiculous amounts of switch tens will i ever call something "progression killer."
I'll leave it at that, I think we have come to common grounds now. That, and I really don't have that much else to say on the subject without getting boring and repetitive, which is something I really don't care for.
i would agree with you but your forgetting one major part.
What about all the guys who say they are done with comps and just want to film. Comps are supposed to be fun and they no longer are because the mainstream makes the comps into a circus show where the most wazzling-dazzling trick takes the cake.
The YGO sounded like a comp that is setting the bar for new things to come. But things dont happen with out reinforcement, and to 1. not talk about such a pressing matter and 2. Believe that the way comps are being run now is for real, wont change a damn thing.
Advocate change boys! its how our sport got started and if we want it to continue on the right path we need to be concerned with the right change
Sensay, fuck you, who fucking cares man, OH NO!!! just cause some skiers are tryin to win some money at a comp doesnt fucking mean that everyone is gonna just huck, seriously suck a fucking dick these guys need money, if there was no money involved im sure it would be better to watch, but as of now, its for money, not for your picky ass to be entertained.
the only wrong direction switch 10s are possibly taking skiing in, is because it was repetitive to watch. that's not because of the trick itself, it's because that's how the judges were scoring. if the judges were marking switch cork 5s higher than everything else, everyone would've been doing those too. one competition (or two) does not dictate how skiing will evolve.... i shouldn't think. it's all the judges fault, should mark creativity higher.
^ I agree with what you said. But still... for alot of those tricks i was still going holly shit that was sick.. wow... but then oh another 10. its been the trick to do for the last almost 3 years now
two words, tanner rainville
haha, you people ammuse me. skiing going in the wrong direction...hahaha for christs fucking sake, its 2 goddamn contests. they're ONLY COMPETITIONS. have you ever competed? do you not understand that the point of competing is to WIN. and how does one win you may ask? well, ill tell you, you do the BEST you possibly can, in the case of the x games, ya, sw 10 was the BEST they could do, given the jump size. how hard is that to understand. your in it to WIN, not place b/c you tossed a oh so silky switch 7....and damnit how the hell do copetitions effect the way a anyone will ski outside of competitions? i sure as shit know that im not going to stop goin for sw10 just beacuse the kids on newschoolers.com say its "played". fuck that, a sw 10 is a mad gnar ill sick trick, and i will forever give up props to people that can do em well.
please come up with a new topic already
for fucks sake! skiing comps have been doing the same thing since the dawn of judged events
in the 70s the same "new and core" trick combos won
same in the 80s
same in the 90s
it used to be who could huck the meanest mule kick, at the first x-games it was a 540 throw down today it is the sw10...
that is what happens when you judge an event...want freeskiing to be free...then don't give a shit about comps...
13 years and all that changed is degrees smh
Skiing is way different now
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