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Shortening Screws

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smithxi
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If my shop mounts my Rossignol Axium 2 120 Ti's with the spacers, I'm just going to take the binding off of the ski and shorten the screws and put them back in without the spacers to save the hastle. Can you guys give me any advice about shortening these screws? Do I only need to take off as much as the spacer is tall? Will a vice bend the screw? Thanks.
Jan 7 2006 1:25AM
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hartig
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a lot of people looked at this thread huh
Jan 7 2006 1:38AM
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smithxi
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i'd say so man, 106 in like 10 minutes.
Jan 7 2006 1:40AM
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smithxi
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is there a place online that sells 'em?
Jan 7 2006 1:48AM
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LC.
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They'll have shorter screws to use instead, just tell them to mount without the risers and with shorter screws. If they don't have shorter ones for some reason, they can grind them down.
Jan 7 2006 1:57AM
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smithxi
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i know, but one of the two shops i go two said that they're not allowed to do it for warranty reasons, which i read the rossignol handbooklet thing tonite and it reads...

WARNING - the use of non-Rossignol lifters may have a negative effect on performance on the binding or the brake. It is the retailer's responsibility to check the compatability of the product, and to inspect that the products, once assembled, operate as intended.

that's the only excuse they have to mount with the plate. and they will use that in their favor all they can, for simplicity reasons. it only makes their job easier. not anywhere in there does it say its necessary or required, but that it only ensures performance of the brake. lame.
Jan 7 2006 2:07AM
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LC.
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I work in a shop. They're just being anal about it if they're insisting on that. Go to a good shop and talk to them and they should be able to grind the screws or put in shorter ones. And you can ALWAYS sign an extra disclaimer stating whatever you want, to release liability from the shop, eg. if you want them to set higher DINs for you that from what the chart says.
Jan 7 2006 2:15AM
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smithxi
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i'll use that.
Jan 7 2006 2:16AM
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Burrito
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You may not be able to mount them without the lifters. I have PX12s with lifters, and my shop didn't have any short screws. I called Dynastar (Look) and they are sending me the shorter screws along with a small piece that has to go under the heelpiece because it is lower than the toepiece. So you may need the lifters to make you bindings level.
Jan 7 2006 9:27AM
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mauii
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i just took the stock screws and sanded them down with a bench grinder. Easy and effective.
Jan 7 2006 10:21AM
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R.Fahey
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dude... risers aren't even that bad. you can't really tell when you have them on. just keep them, and avoid the hassle, and chance of error.
Jan 7 2006 12:58PM
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lyndon
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risers are that bad, after a day or 2 tou dont realize they are there. in a prevoius thread you were asking the best spot to mount your scratch's. i believe you selected true centre seeing you will be riding mostle park. if you ahve risers, that will have very little affect on your skiing ability, or possibly none at all. a few guyl have liine bindings and they like them alot. the line bindings have 7 mm rise, which your risers are about 3-5mm. you wont notice them... i rode risers for 3 yrs, and it becomes a natural feeling. i know hoodster rides lifters.... Click for larger image

these are sick bindings as well, whichj are liftes..... Click for larger image
Jan 7 2006 1:24PM
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smithxi
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do you ride risers now?
Jan 7 2006 8:11PM
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johanblaze
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i had risers on my pistols and i wasn't too fond of them. they weren't terruble, but not my favorite. i asked a shop to find the regular p12 screws for me. if a shop isn't going to help you get some new screws be careful about grinding them down yourself.

leave them too long and they can punch through the base. too short and the binding can rip out.

just try to get a shop to find you some of the regular screws and if they aren't any help, you'll be fine with the risers.
Jan 7 2006 8:17PM
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Burrito
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Those don't have lifters.
Jan 7 2006 9:02PM
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smithxi
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they might. my lifters on my rossi's are extremely thin.
Jan 7 2006 10:10PM
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Burrito
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They're just Salomons, which have a high profile to begin with.
Jan 8 2006 12:03AM
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smithxi
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yeah im not a big fan of salomon. i hate my salomon snowboard right now.
Jan 8 2006 12:28AM
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user098123
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Ever heard of a dremel? Use that, it will cut those screws to whatever height you want and is incredibly easy to use.
Jan 8 2006 12:33AM
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WONTON
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my shop mounted my p10s without lifters fine...they just said theyd use shorter screws. I was wondering the same before i had them mounted and a few of my friends said that u need some other plate thing that isnt as high as the lifters to balance the toe and heelpiece but u definitely dont. Theres gotta be a shop that will do it
Jan 8 2006 12:37AM
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smithxi
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word. i'll make some calls tomorrow.
Jan 8 2006 12:41AM
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Burrito
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Maybe there's a difference between the Ps and the PXs because I was messing with mine the other day (they aren't mounted yet), and with out the thing under the heel my boot was leaning back.
Jan 8 2006 1:25AM
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Burrito
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Sorry, mine are PXs
Jan 8 2006 1:26AM
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WONTON
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yea could be different with px's...making some calls will be ur best bet
Jan 8 2006 1:27AM
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CHARLES.BRONSON
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This really isnt a complicated issue, you order the standard screws from look through your shop if they dont already have them in the back.
Jan 8 2006 2:16AM
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