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PX vs. FKS (whats the real deal?)
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Now everyone knows that Look/Rossi put out new bindings: PX and FKS. Now from what it looks like, they are pushing the PX (new axial) to be their freeride/newschool binding. Then you look at all of the Pros and their riding a totally different binding called the FKS (which is being marketed as a race binding). Now I know pros don't use the same bindings we do, but normally they just use the same model only with a DIN of like 18? I'm just trying to get a feel for whats happening here. Whats the better (safety and performance) binding???
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FKS=metal contstruction, and in some DIN ranges lighter than the compareable binding because of the lack of the heel track.
px=non pivot heel,consumer binding, perfectly fine, not as rugged as the fks.
Just ride what you get a deal on.
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both are safe bindings.
they have different release mechanism.
most pros ride race stocks. s916 and P18 or FKS 185 or whatnot. Metal, so much more durable. sometimes release mechanisms or certain aspects as different.
PX, IMO, seems kind of "meh".
The release function between the two is also very different. the FKS is a real turntable heal, which wasn't even the case with the old look/rossi p14,12,10 or scratch 140,120,100.
There is no better bindings, in my opinion, than the salomon s916 or the look/rossi P18/FKS 185. They are worth the extra $$ to me.
most people are more than fine with normal bindings, whether they be the new PX or the older P14/12/10. race stocks are pretty $$$, but you can find them for pretty cheap if you look.
if you can, race stocks are dope. I am to the point where I only use race stocks on any skis I'll be seriously skiing with. I have just normal rossi scratch 100 on my park skis.
either way, keep it with look/rossi to get actual consistant releases. I dont trust any other bindings out there besides the salomon s916.
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FKs have had some durability isues due to the fact that parts such as the brake and piviot brake. I would go the PX you dont really need a pivot heel. Nick
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ok...this really doesn't make sense.
only durability issues I've ever heard have been breaking of the plastic piece holding the heal together.
this isnt a problem on the newer P18 and FKS because that piece is metal, not plastic.
don't know if I've ever heard of someone complaining of durability issues of race stocks and suggesting normal consumer bindings.....
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alright, idk i must be really out of the loop, i totally thought the FKS was rather new. But answer this, why have some of these guys only recently switched to the FKS? Wasn't tanner using like P18's the past couple years? These guys are pro athletes I don't think a couple hundred grams will make a difference to them even if it is a little lighter in a certain category.
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FKS has been around forever.
and the FKS and P18 are the exact same binding in different colors. That is it.
the toe piece is a tad bit different, but the mechanics and function of the two are the same.
People ski race stocks because they are durable as fuck because they are metal, tend to release more consistantly, and when needed allow them to crank their dins way above what they should be....
Both bindings are good bindings, but as far as function and quality is concerned, race stocks are vastly superior.
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also the pivots heelpeice (i dunno about the px) consists of 2 parts. first the part that screws onto the ski, and the heelpart which slides onto the other part. this, in my opinion is one of the weakest parts compared to the fks which is drilled directly onto the ski.
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the px doesn't pivot, it has elastic travel
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tanner and them ride the rossi freeride 180 in white/silver. It is a 10 year old binding it has the freeride toepiece rather than the fks toepiece. The majority of the pros ride the fks with the fks toepiece and the same heel as the p18/fks 185/look zr (newest ones). There is very little weight difference in all of these and lower level pros ride what they are given.
Talk to josh at jibij and he will set you up with what is best for you and your budget, that way you will know it is new and has metal in all the right places etc.
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When your counting the best bindings, the racestock fischers/tyrolias should definately be included. FR17s are the binding that i like the most out of any i have riden.
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they suck major cock heavy unreliable cowboy construction.
GO LOOK
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You really have no idea what your talking about.
a)If there is a weight difference between them, and p18s-916s, it is negligable enough to have not noticed after skiing them.
b)I honestly cannot remember prereleasing out of them.(VERY predictable when they will release...and they will release in situations where looks and rossis should by can't due to their design)
c)The only thing that breaks on them when you mount them without the plate is the afd pad or "abs" thing depending on the model you have. On the models with the afd pad that is probably the most resiliant binding to wear i have ever seen.
Tyrolias and fischers are a VERY good alternative to the looks/rossis/salos that are dominating the high end binding market, if you don't think so you are being heavily biased (for whatever reason, apparently "sucking major cock" is the popular one).
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iggyskier*
Do u know the brake that stops the ski from flying down the hill when not attached to a person? Well these are attached to the pivot and when the brake bends or snaps this sometimes effects the heel release. This is a very common acourance with these bindings. At lease 20 frineds of mine have had this happen to some extent. DONT BUY them if oyu dont need a din that high. Nick
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I think what youre trying to say is when the brake gets damaged on the racestocks there is a higher chance it will damage the actual heelpiece release than on the consumer bindings.
This would be true, if it were not for the fact that the racestocks are bomber and if you're capable of replacing a brake arm chances are they will last you for 10 years, where the consumer bindings will not.
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You try replacing the brake arm on a P18 or FKS series binding. Good luck!
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Its really not that hard. you do have to take the heel off the ski, but its not that hard. They are alot more resiliant to breaking than a regular brake anyway because of the design the way it is. Anyone that has bent them properly would know how to replace the arm, which is a pretty high percentage of people that ride the racestocks.
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buuahaha, exaggerate much? 20 people tht happened to?
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Anyone want to enlighten me on the release of the the FKS? Safe? Safer than 4frnts? I've heard it doesn't have an upward toe release... just side to side. But that could be crap. I am definitrly getting 4frnt 6-14's this season.. But a friend of mine offered me a pair of FKS's at a good price. What do you think would be a better option... for my park ski that is (anthem). I am stuck on putting the 4frnts on my Bacons.
thanks.
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