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Marijuana: Dangerous or no?

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skogenjake
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im sick of every thread about something to do with pot turning into this discussion. so hence the thread about it. i know alot of you have alot to say.

i dont really think its more dangerous than alcohol. i mean millions die from drunk driving and other alcohol related incidents. but i recently saw this "pro pot legalization" pamphlet that said 0 have died from smoking pot. im not saying pot can cause deaths from fights over it, such as with small time gangs and dealers, im saying its just less dangerous and if it was legalized, at least for medicial reasons, it may be a good thing. im not denying the lung cancer thing though.




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Aug 14 2005 8:29PM
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Jenna1106
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if every thread about pot turns into this discussion then why make another thread that says the same thing?

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Aug 14 2005 8:30PM
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JEAopardy
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pot has never proven to kill anyone. the only reason they say its bad is because it has a couple of elements that are in cigarettes and cigarettes have been proven to kill. but people that die from cigarettes smoke a pack a day for their whole life. you will not nearly smoke as much weed as people that die from cigarettes smoke cigarettes. pot smokers have nothing to worry about.

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Aug 14 2005 8:31PM
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.John.
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It's no worse than alcohol, I don't even see why it's illegal

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Aug 14 2005 8:32PM
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eastAR5
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i smoked 5 times today cause theres nothing else to do and it rained and its super hot out

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Aug 14 2005 8:32PM
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hucksplat
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weed is far less dangerous then alcohol. though people die when they are high, i do not feel they die because they were high. post hoc effect.

if you want to reduce lung cancer, smoke using a vaporiser.

Aug 14 2005 8:35PM
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VKarma185
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i say fuck it personally, i don't need that shit

Aug 14 2005 9:13PM
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fizzlefry
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dangerous or no? no




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Aug 14 2005 9:24PM
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bhill2.0
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its kind of dangerous , today i handted smoked in like a week or so, and I craved it so bad, it was the worst, but I love it yeah brah 4:20 lets smoke to that shit yeah dude we are so taugggghht





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Aug 14 2005 9:29PM
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friday01
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alcohol is definitly worse than weed. being addicted to weed is basicly as bad as being addicted to cigarettes. but alcohol can change people entire life and ruin peoples lifes. plus the main agrument that i hear a lot that parents have for not liking weed is that its the "gateway drug". which is true in some cases but i know kids thats get drug tested for weed but not for anything else so he just does a lot of other drugs. the only thing dangerous about weed is that it can cause lung cancer if you smoke as much weed as bob marley. but if you just spend a few hundred dollars for a good vaporizor it doesnt even do that.

Aug 14 2005 9:32PM
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twix_182
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from my extensive research, i've found out that if u smoke an oz in under a minute you explode and everyone within a mile radius of you will melt to the ground. but it'll be funny because they'll try t orun away,.....but they can't because they're stuck in the ground.

Anyway, a gas station we pass. We got gas, and ran off to get grub.It was a nice little pub in the middle on nowhere. Anywhere woulda been better. I ordered enchiladas and I ate 'em, Ali had the fruit punch.
Aug 14 2005 9:35PM
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pierceme
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theres no actually addicting substances in marijuana. People can get addicted to the feeling but theres nothing like nicotene that actually makes u crave it. Its all in ur head.





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Aug 14 2005 9:50PM
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eastAR5
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yea it's like saying you can get addicted to sex...

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Aug 14 2005 9:52PM
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R-Bertsch
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people on this site are wierd. There are a bunch of people that agree that its not harmful its impossible to OD on and no one dies from it, and i agree with them. People that disagree with that have their right to do so, but im tired of seeing the jackasses who get all anti pot and start afuckin argument or something. If you choose not to smoke, thats your choice, no ones gonna mack on you for not smoking, but dont be all gay and try to tell us we are ruining our lives and others by smoking, thats just bullshit and im tired of hearing it.

Aug 14 2005 9:56PM
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eheath
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whenever someone dies or gets cancer and smokes weed, they smoke cigs 2, cigs should be illeagal not weed


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Aug 14 2005 10:04PM
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skier4life159
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if the goverment decided to legalize it and put taxes on it. let it be sold in stores. they would make a shitload of money. the price of it would decrease as well.

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Aug 14 2005 10:06PM
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SimonFiller
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its fine, but dont bitch when you get cancer early in life. last i check, cancer was as cool as pubic lice.

Aug 14 2005 10:28PM
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Calb3rt
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its legal here in alaska... only a bit though like 7 oz. but it is still legal unlike all the not so cool states.

Aug 14 2005 10:41PM
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skogenjake
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haha i did not know that!




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Aug 14 2005 10:59PM
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ShmagmaSkiier420
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umm, 7oz. is quite a bit. i would recheck your sources. and either way, its a federal law. so its not like you cant get busted.

Aug 14 2005 11:01PM
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pierceme
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the government cant find a way to control it because its illegal. If they made it legal, it would be fairly easy for them to control. I know, u'll say that people will still grow it themselves all the time, and they probably will, but people can also brew their own alcohol, thats not exactly a huge problem though. Basically if they put it on the shelves at rite aid and wal mart and shit, then no one would go through the trouble of growing it themselves and trying not to get caught when they could just go to the store and get it legally. Plus, it would be so much cheaper if they sold it at stores, so people would be totally willing to buy from there.





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Aug 14 2005 11:02PM
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P-JO
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First of all, bob marley didn't even die from lung cancer, whatever idiot said that is wrong. He died from cancer in his toe that spread to his brain, and did spread to his lungs. Although there is nothing harmful about pot, the only thing harmful with pot right now is that its illegal.

Addictive? No. In your brain, you have a reward (dopamine release) and a reinforcing system (serotonin realease). When you smoke weed your brain realses dopamine. But the realease of serotonin balances your decision in smoking weed by weighing out the consequences. IF you have low serotonin levels, you are more likely to have implusive behaviors and smoke a lot of weed, and possibly go on to other drugs. WEED, has no permanent effect on dopamine or serotinin levels. Nicotine and cocaine do have permanent effects though. Both of these substances disrupt dopamine uptake, causing more of the substance to be required to cause a person to be happy or trigger their reward system.

Aug 14 2005 11:27PM
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hans_aschim
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it will never be legalized however decriminalizing it would be great for our country. there's a good article about the subject in the most recent ROLLING STONE. it basically says how the B.A. is spending tons of useless money on busting petty pot crimes while not concentrating on shit like meth.



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Aug 14 2005 11:29PM
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eastAR5
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why would they give it to medical pacients th en?

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Aug 14 2005 11:32PM
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asac
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we wasted so much money keeping weed illegal. weed isn't a quarter as danger as D.A.R.E. tells you it is.






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Aug 14 2005 11:32PM
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hucker22
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i remeber watchin a video in science where they had this fake burn out dude he just acted like a surfer and squinted his eyes alot. he was like 40, i dont buy into the government propaganda bullshit

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Aug 14 2005 11:35PM
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Hctiws_iks
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weed may not have a physical dependency, but it doesnt mean that someone that smokes all the time is gonna have an easy time stopping. It is still habit forming. But then again so is alcohol. People oftensmoke more though because it is much easier to function on, so it wont get in the way of shit.

Weed should be legal but instead the government chooses to classify it alongside hard drugs.

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Aug 14 2005 11:44PM
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FartBoy05
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true^

i think alcohol is worse overall. ganj is fun sometimes but you cant do it too much.

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Aug 14 2005 11:48PM
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CTripper
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ok being a person who smoked weed everyday for a long time, there are some downsides to it. first off, being high all the time makes you moody. there's no way around it, it does. it makes you think into things too much and you think things are happening that aren't. yeah so what it isn't physically addicting, it is without a doubt psychologically and it fucks your mind. maybe not permanently but it does and after a while it just gets old. i have been a pothead for three years and i can tell you that for me, shit has hit the fan and its not even worth being high all the time anymore. plus when you don't smoke, you no longer get that feeling in your gut when you see a policeman. yeah you know what i mean.

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Aug 15 2005 12:20AM
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JackBach
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"...but people that die from cigarettes smoke a pack a day for their whole life."

That is not accurate. There are plenty of people who have been diagnosed with cancer directly correlated to their smoking even though they quit years prior to death. Smoking deteriorates the health in multiple ways, such as heart disease, lung disease, mouth cancer, throat cancer, etc.

As for whether pot is dangerous? Well that depends on what you're comparing it to. Is smoking it more dangerous than NOT? Yes, of course. However, in comparison to alcohol, cocaine, and methamphetamines it is not as dangerous.

Drugs effect people in different ways. There's no way to know how it's going to effect your health.

There is one good rule to apply to use of any kind of drug, whether it be caffeine or LCD or marijuana: moderation. It doesn't put you in the clear, but excess will clearly increase your probability of health problems.

Personally, I see less problems with marijuana than alcohol. Additionally, I don't know of any hospitals using alcohol to treat patients in pain, contrary to medicinal distribution of marijuana.



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Aug 15 2005 12:44AM
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freezed
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it isnt dangerous, just the act of smoking, but it can reduce your decision making, reflexes, that kind of stuff, in some people, which could create dangerous situations. less dangerous than drinking though.

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Aug 15 2005 1:38AM
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Planet_Captain
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^^ "LCD" hahahaha, that mad eme laugh.

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Aug 15 2005 2:00AM
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FERREZZ
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its illegal, enough said.....



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Aug 15 2005 2:03AM
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lilgreen
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drugs are awsome

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Aug 15 2005 2:10AM
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VKarma185
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i second that motion. you know shit's wack when it's the number one killer per year. i don't understand how it can be sold legally when it kills so many people. and as for marijuana, at least put an age limit on it. i think marijuana and cigs should switch places

Aug 15 2005 2:17AM
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SSteezle
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too much of it is def. dangerous i'd say

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Aug 15 2005 8:33AM
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Knewnews
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it is a lot better then drinking and cigs. but for reasons why it is still not allowed: weed chills you out and there are already two huge industries that do the same, booze and pills. because of our great lobbying system of goverment i think there would have to be a huge change of opinion... because of all the resistence at the goverment level.

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Aug 15 2005 9:31AM
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Soups
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Weed is definitely more dangerous than ethyl alcohol or cigarettes. Theres a reason its illegal, and its not cause the government cant control it, thats bullshit. People die over trying to supply weed, grow it, hide it, etc etc. Oooh it makes you chill right? Fuck that, so does a beer or 2. People OD from weed and other drugs all the time. Yeah so do people that drink and drive I know. But seriously if you have any self control you can stop drinking. Kids that are on drugs just fuck up their lives

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Aug 15 2005 9:40AM
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SimonFiller
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i'd rather just ski or have sex with a girl than smoke or do drugs. thats just me though.

Aug 15 2005 10:22AM
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hucker22
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a kid died on csi from weed, his friend pushed his face into a bong till he couldnt breath and he died. so they threw him off the roof into a pool.

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Aug 15 2005 10:34AM
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P-JO
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no....no you definitely can not OD from weed. You are so fucking ignorant I don't think you should be able to reply in this thread anymore. No offense but your parents just did a really bad job raising you, and obviously DARE, and all government propaganda has filled your small closed mind. Ever heard of alcoholism or lung cancer from smoking weed? NOOOO YOU HAVEN'T.


sorry if i should mean or anything, im just in a reallly bad mood.

Aug 15 2005 10:34AM
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eastAR5
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^^wtf no one has ever ODed from weed, it's impossible. The only way is if you injected straight THC into your blood, then maybe, but I dont know if that's even possible. Drinking is a 100 times worse and has addicitive properties.

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Aug 15 2005 10:35AM
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SimonFiller
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weed can be dirty though. it could also be laced with shit. which i'm sure is fine by everyone because they all think they have reliable sources, but just imagine if your bro bought some dank shit without knowing it and his heart exploded? that happened to a kid at my college.

Aug 15 2005 10:38AM
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highfive
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lol he said they pushed his face into a bong... that's called suffocation. But of course CSI forgot one small detail... the rush hole. He could have breathed.. That's why people don't DIE smoking weed out of a bong...

A LESSON FROM A HARDCORE SMOKER:
if your really hardcore you can just smoke out of your hands. make a loose fist but keep your fingers together and pack the entire empty space in the middle with herb. then open up your pinky finger enough so that the herb doesnt fall out but you can light it. then just breath in from the top hole and ull get mad respect -eastar5

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Aug 15 2005 10:39AM
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Ericpbp
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why would an illigal drug be dangerious? I blows my mind

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Aug 15 2005 10:41AM
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highfive
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My friend that was the most ignorant speech I have seen in a long time... I'm gonna let someone else rant about your stupidity...

A LESSON FROM A HARDCORE SMOKER:
if your really hardcore you can just smoke out of your hands. make a loose fist but keep your fingers together and pack the entire empty space in the middle with herb. then open up your pinky finger enough so that the herb doesnt fall out but you can light it. then just breath in from the top hole and ull get mad respect -eastar5

Coolidge St. Mtn - Elevation.... 5 feet.

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Aug 15 2005 10:41AM
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highfive
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1. Politicians get money from dealers to keep it illegal, as it will be worth more. How many politicians do/have done drugs? Thank you very much...

2. Weed is NOT dangerous. Like any other mind altering substance you have to be careful when you use it and how much. (You won't be driving out late when you have been taking sleeping pills for example).
Drugs like prozac are much more potent the marijuana can be, and can become extremely addictive. The act of smoking weed is not dangerous... You WILL NOT OD, your blood vessels WILL NOT explode (lol... I've heard that one before...) and if you take it in conjunction with viagra you will not die...


A LESSON FROM A HARDCORE SMOKER:
if your really hardcore you can just smoke out of your hands. make a loose fist but keep your fingers together and pack the entire empty space in the middle with herb. then open up your pinky finger enough so that the herb doesnt fall out but you can light it. then just breath in from the top hole and ull get mad respect -eastar5

Coolidge St. Mtn - Elevation.... 5 feet.

$ $ $ $ $ B O S T O N | B A C K C O U N T R Y $ $ $ $ $
Aug 15 2005 10:45AM
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highfive
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Oh btw... one shot of ethyl alcohol will kill you. Shows how much you know what you're talking about...

A LESSON FROM A HARDCORE SMOKER:
if your really hardcore you can just smoke out of your hands. make a loose fist but keep your fingers together and pack the entire empty space in the middle with herb. then open up your pinky finger enough so that the herb doesnt fall out but you can light it. then just breath in from the top hole and ull get mad respect -eastar5

Coolidge St. Mtn - Elevation.... 5 feet.

$ $ $ $ $ B O S T O N | B A C K C O U N T R Y $ $ $ $ $
Aug 15 2005 10:49AM
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skierman_number1
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Well I'm going to find out if it is later on because my brother has one kidney and he's getting his last full body check up, all kinds of tests. He's been a smoker for a few years now, total pothead. So I'll report back when he comes home.

Aug 15 2005 10:53AM
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pierceme
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yeah that was dumb as all hel. Of course people die from trying to supply/buy it. But thats cuz its illegal retard. If u could go to wal-mart and buy it off the shelf, then obviously ur not putting yourself in harms way to get it. And its not actually addicting. Yes, its habit-forming, but u cant use that as an excuse to make it illegal. Easting pop-tarts has become a habit to me. That doesnt mean shit.

And my biggest problem with weed being illegal is that way too many people that have never smoked it, say its bad just because its labeled as a drug. Dont knock it til u try it. If u just look at it with an open-mind then its really not that bad. And all the politicians that make it illegal are more than likely these guys that have never tried it, but say its bad.





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Aug 15 2005 10:57AM
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highfive
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^^^
Kidney problems have nothing related to marijuana... The smoke goes in your lungs not into your kidney... He probably got a kidney stone or something... (Excess of Calcium).

A LESSON FROM A HARDCORE SMOKER:
if your really hardcore you can just smoke out of your hands. make a loose fist but keep your fingers together and pack the entire empty space in the middle with herb. then open up your pinky finger enough so that the herb doesnt fall out but you can light it. then just breath in from the top hole and ull get mad respect -eastar5

Coolidge St. Mtn - Elevation.... 5 feet.

$ $ $ $ $ B O S T O N | B A C K C O U N T R Y $ $ $ $ $
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