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Ar5s or invaders

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crooks
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which will be better 2006 ar5s or invaders?

May 17 2005 3:26PM
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vincepru
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invaders, but im biased.

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May 17 2005 3:53PM
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Deezl
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Depends on what for...they aren't really comparable skis.

May 17 2005 4:02PM
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crooks
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well its actually for my friend but we live on the east coast so theres not much powder, but he skis mostly park pipe and doesnt really do rails but boxes, and is like 50% in the park and 50% out, and he wants a good butter ski too

May 17 2005 4:06PM
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Vicious
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if you are deciding between those two, i'd say go with the ar5 if you ski more all-mtn and pipe and the invaders if you ski mostly park.

however, there are a plethora of other sick skis available next year, so don't limit yourself too early


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May 17 2005 4:07PM
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crooks
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ok well if he skis mostly park pipe and doesnt really do rails but boxes, and is like 50% in the park and 50% out, and he wants a good butter ski too then what would u reccommed?

May 17 2005 4:10PM
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Vicious
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your explanation falls right between the two. the invader is the coolest buttering ski available, but it's pretty soft, so it's not going to perform as well outside the park as the ar5


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May 17 2005 4:16PM
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crooks
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can u better good with the ar5?

May 17 2005 4:21PM
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crooks
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butter**

May 17 2005 4:21PM
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vincepru
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dude invader sounds perfect for what he wants. they butter amazingly

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May 17 2005 4:27PM
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crooks
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yeah but how will they do outside the park?

May 17 2005 4:29PM
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3ski6guy0
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invaders are sweet. they ride just fine out of park too. ive taken them in some bumps, off cornices, and everywhere.

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May 17 2005 4:55PM
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vincepru
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^vorrrrd

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May 17 2005 4:55PM
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crooks
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can u butter well with the ar5s?

May 17 2005 4:58PM
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KillerMonkey
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why only those 2 skis, there are better skis that fit your description

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May 17 2005 5:16PM
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Deezl
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IF, he can only choose between those two skis, I honestly would recommend the AR5. I've been skiing the Invader exclusively for a while now, more than the others who have recommended it to you, and it has major shortcomings when you leave the park. The AR5 will butter fine you just have to put more effort into it. If he's only 50% in and 50% out the AR5 is much more suited to his needs.

Why not the Chronic instead though?

May 17 2005 6:50PM
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crooks
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then what

May 17 2005 8:10PM
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Triple_Strum
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the ar5 dont butter amazing well, but lets face it, what percentage of the time are you butter during skiing vs. normal riding? Get the ar5

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May 17 2005 8:55PM
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Jeff_Lo
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ill do another good thread...i know its rare but ill do it...The Ar5 and Invaders seem different to me, and seems like id have to do a process of elimantion to pick...

AR5-the first thing you have to consider is the size of ski you will use, sizes varrying from 160,170,176,and 180 with the tips from 107-114 the waists from 76-81 and the tails from 97-103.
They have installed a new 2.5 edge tech...which is the beefiest armada says, they have also added a 8 series top sheet making it more durable than previous years, which is good cuz the cosmetics sucked the last few years....They also have a new core that decreases the weight from last years ski and provides a more responsive ski and now has better durability, and i might add some very funky graphics...you are probably looking at spending anywhere from 400 dollars and up for the ski.

Invader- Well its obviously made by line so it will have a strong base, it as well has the 2.5 edge tech, just has a different name(fatty edge) the invader ranges from sizes of 151,161,171 and 178 with dimensions of 112-83-112...this means the ski will ski very well switch and forward...as i mentioned earlier i beleive the ski has a 3000 base which is deffinately very strong, and has a marblock wood core, which will hold up just as well as any other ski, the ski also has a new flex technology, making it one of the softest skis on the market, buttering with an ease, some how it prevents the ski from a large amount of chatter tho, it puzzles me, and the ski has a naked lady and peice of toast on it...wat more could you ask for! and the ski is adaptable with line bindings keeping the value of the ski higher when your done and want to sell it...and the ski ranges from 280-300 dollars retail price...deffinately a bang for your buck!...

well thats my 2 cents




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May 17 2005 9:26PM
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DaveHumphrey
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what he said^



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May 18 2005 7:08AM
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bret
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you'll want Ar5's. better in pipe and on the mountain. good enough in park too, i promise.





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May 18 2005 8:48PM
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Twintipskier-101
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The ar5's would seem to be better for what your friend wants.

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May 18 2005 9:03PM
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J.D.
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Ar5 = better skis for more or less everything, Invaders = better value for the money. If he skis pipe a fair bit, as you said, Ar5s.

May 18 2005 9:06PM
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Jeff_Lo
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invaders are built well to, and will ski pipe just as well as a AR5 will, with there new flex technology



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May 18 2005 10:22PM
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bret
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^no. you're going to want a true flex that holds edge like a rock in the icy east coast pipes. an unconventional flex with butter points screwing up the way the ski carves the snow is not what you want.




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May 19 2005 12:10AM
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Deezl
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The invader is not a good pipe ski. I will go as far as saying it sucks in my opinion for pipe.

May 19 2005 1:17AM
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KeegLove
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if u are reely into park then deffinately get the invaders they are a cemetrical construction its a new idea and i think that it will be very effective in the park

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May 19 2005 1:58AM
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DHogg
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best for buttering? the fujative was designed for it, has such a sick flex

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May 19 2005 4:13AM
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vincepru
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i colored the piece of toast yellow/orange, and the naked girl red. im gonna start coloring snoop dogg brown.

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May 19 2005 9:37AM
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Jeff_Lo
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personally i thought it was method man...or somethin...



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May 19 2005 10:49AM
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Deezl
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The invader is way better for buttering than the fujative.

May 19 2005 12:29PM
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Vicious
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First of all, if you read the thread, he was asking about the AR5 versus the Invader, so I don't know where you got the Fuja.

Second, while the Fuja has great flex for park riding, as Deezl mentioned above, the Invader with it's "butter zones" is better for buttering than the Fuja.


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May 19 2005 12:38PM
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DaveHumphrey
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invaders for sure



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May 19 2005 4:49PM
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Jeff_Lo
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haha....invaders are fun skis check them out, check out the ar5, pick the best ski for you simple as that, everyone on NS is so biased there help is minimal when asking to choose between two great things



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May 19 2005 8:11PM
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Deezl
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I gave an honest nonbiased reply, anyone who knows me will tell you that I'm as die hard Line as it gets but if those are the only two skis a guy is looking at then look at my first reply.

May 19 2005 11:25PM
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DHogg
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if your going to compare invader to an armada look into the T-Hall. Pretty much the armada version of invader,fuji,ect

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May 20 2005 6:26AM
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dandoy
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Who cares? Just demo them both and see what you like!

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May 20 2005 8:17AM
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johanblaze
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invaders if you ski park only. if you want to be able to tear up the groomers a little as well, go for the ar5s.

May 20 2005 12:28PM
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Jeff_Lo
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except it is heavy and already has less of an edge...i know you lose it ne ways...but still less to start with



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May 20 2005 1:27PM
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SNWBDRHOON
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2 totally different skis.

May 20 2005 3:06PM
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crooks
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ya i think thats been said about 20 times

May 20 2005 8:14PM
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Freestyla_01
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Just buy the invaders.
Fuck.
You live on the east coast. It's not like you're going to get any good skiing in anyways, so why should it matter.

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May 20 2005 8:58PM
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vincepru
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^finaly somebody with a brain

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May 20 2005 9:03PM
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DHogg
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out of these two skis the invaders are a lot better.

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May 21 2005 2:59AM
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Freestyla_01
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You haven't skiied either, so I wouldn't just go on what you've heard on this site.
"better" isn't always better.
It's preference.

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May 21 2005 4:38AM
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DHogg
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^sorry i forgot to add for park to the end of my post.

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May 21 2005 4:55AM
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