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Arvs or elizabeths?

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guddgulf17
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for next year, i have narrowed my choices down to the arvs or the elizabeths. i cant decide because the arv is 175, and i want a longer ski, but i have this years chronics and i think line makes sick skis. advice? thanks

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May 5 2005 12:28AM
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guddgulf17
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by the way, i ski everything. 40% park, 10% groom, 40% tight trees and pow, 10% bc

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May 5 2005 12:29AM
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Freestyla_01
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Elizabeths look so sick.
Go with them.
Based solely on the fact that they look cool.

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May 5 2005 2:48AM
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BoB11
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You should go with the elizabeths. Those skis can go any where and perform well.

May 5 2005 1:08PM
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Lineskier-101
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ARV's are made for EVERYTHING!
Elizabeths are made for the park.

Now get arv's, they're also cheaper.

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May 5 2005 1:58PM
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skimack
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^^elizabeth's are made for park, but if you're a smaller kid they strait up dominate all over the mountain too, like baby prophets.

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May 5 2005 2:03PM
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J.D.
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You quite honestly cannot lose. I'd get ARVs, but that's just me. Only point I can take from the Elizabeth is that Line's never made a sidewall ski before, so who knows how it'll hold up... but it seemed totally solid to me, so yeah. Coin toss. Get the cheaper one, I guess.

May 5 2005 2:46PM
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skifiend
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^wrong, line has made sandwich skis before. Don't know which model they were but they were mostly grey....probably '98,'99, or 2000????


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May 5 2005 2:50PM
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jetski
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^ darksides

May 5 2005 4:17PM
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skifiend
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Thank you...couldn't remember that. Those were also the first ski I've ever seen that were completely symmertical and center mounted. Not sure if they were an industry first, but the first ski I had ever seen like that. I remember thinking, ''Well that's just stupid!''


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May 5 2005 4:20PM
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Freestyla_01
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Symmetrical and center mounted were the original 1260s.
The white ones.
They were sidewall.

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May 5 2005 7:33PM
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bret
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^is correct. and get ARV's. they're delightful.



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May 6 2005 12:16AM
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guddgulf17
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the old 1260s had sidewalls. i am leaning twards the arvs, because i think i can get a pro deal on them through my freestyle team

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May 6 2005 1:09AM
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CHARLES.BRONSON
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The elizabeths are so so much sicker, the only problems i've seen with line is their cap delaming, and these have sidewall, so that problem shouldnt exist with these.

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May 6 2005 1:40AM
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threejay
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ya, line had side-wall skis and switched to cap the year before everyone else switched the other way..they had cap skogens, darksides, ostness dragons, and 1260's.


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May 6 2005 1:43AM
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TeenageWasteland
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I would definitely go with the ARVs but it all comes down to what cna you get for the cheapest

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May 6 2005 10:57AM
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AwR
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David, if i were you i would get the elizabeths just because the topsheets of my Ar5's are thrashed and i think the Ar5's and Arv's have the same top sheet but i am not sure. I'm just saying i would get a ski that would hold up better.

May 7 2005 4:14PM
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KillerMonkey
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get elizabeth's, they just look cooler for me. The new arvs are pretty sweet but the elizabeths kick ass.

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May 7 2005 6:04PM
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guddgulf17
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you have a point james

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May 8 2005 1:10AM
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crm
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The topsheet is just cosmetics, ARV's hold up quite well.

May 8 2005 3:26AM
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guddgulf17
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kamesjelly has the first years ar5. i suppose they must have fixed the topsheets between now and then

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May 8 2005 2:50PM
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AwR
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These are both sick skis, does anyone know the prices they will be on the internet, because where i live we dont have a Line Dealer in my state and neither an Armada dealer, but i know someone who could get me some armadas for cheap

May 16 2005 10:47PM
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Jeff_Lo
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Basically almost completely different skis as i see it...basically the waist of the ARV goes from 90-92 mm and tip 123-125...than tail 113-115 taking into account whether you get the 175 or 185 ARV, while the Line Elizabeth has a tip/waist/tail of 139-110-137 but yet comes in a size of 172.....The Elizabeth is deffinately built for the park skiier in most aspects, but pending on almost anyones height/weight ratio you will most deffiantely float in powder and if you dont your are incredibally fat...and as far as the topsheet goes, i havent seen any cosmetic effects to the pair i have seen over the last two weekends and i think its fair of me to assume they have been used a good amount,
while considering all of that when you look back at the ARV, with the waist of 90-92, you are seeing most park skis edging closer and closer to this every year....you will still see great flotation, and the ski will most likely have some cosmetic effects as it seems alot of armadas have had, but considering all of this it would lead me to choose the line elizabeth over the ARV, but if you cant afford it id say go with the ARV and you'll still have a hell of a good time cuz you'll be skiing, just my 2 cents
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May 16 2005 11:07PM
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Jeff_Lo
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Line Elizabeth by Eric Pollard
Regular Price:$800.00
ON SALE!$549.00

my guess is that next years ARV's will be close to 549 if not higher based on there prices for this season



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May 16 2005 11:09PM
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