on monday i skied the cliff 4 time then they open the chair and it was instantly skied out. and by people who dont now how to ski. not that im a pro skier but i can make it. but there were hords of people all falling in that first bit on skiers left of the chair and it was had to make your way down since there were bodies in your line. i hate that chair!!! had one of the best first lies of the year and on my way up i could not pick out my line.