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So My Friend Tip Rockered his ARVs...

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panojibber
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Alright, we were at sunshine this weekend, and the snow was good, but there were some rocks hiding under a thin layer of snow just waiting to be hit. Sure enough my buddy finds one and has his tips stay on the rock while he flies forward, his skis being bent at almost a right angle before they spring off the rock. Forunately they weren't completely wrecked, but instead he was rewarded with a couple cms of tip rocker!

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Thoughts?

Nov 18 2008 6:39PM
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T_orageskiier
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lol wow its almost the exact same on both skis. I guess if your not in the park to much it won't be to bad but i think they might end up breaking because the core is probaly weakened quite a bit in that area but it looks sick haha
Nov 18 2008 6:42PM
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Style+eeze
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agreed
Nov 18 2008 6:45PM
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panojibber
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Well, he did cheat a little bit lol, went home and tip tip stands on the ski that wasn't really rockered until it got there hahaha.
Nov 18 2008 6:46PM
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JOP178
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Now drive them over with your car to give them more underfoot and you have a nice pair of pow skis
Nov 18 2008 6:47PM
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no_steeze
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i'm sure they're weaker now but ride them, see how it goes
Nov 18 2008 6:49PM
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Whifazoo
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CHYEA lol

they ride surprisingly well, at first i was not too sure but now i think i will ride them till they break

:)

Nov 18 2008 7:02PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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For sure, and most likely have a lot less pop.
Nov 18 2008 7:08PM
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panojibber
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Nick! You finally got an NS account! I was just about to send you the thread link lol.
Nov 18 2008 7:20PM
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Whifazoo
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hahah yea man took me long enough eh?

and i have not noticed much of a change, not alot of snow here or jumps for that matter but probs

Nov 18 2008 7:28PM
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fragglemuffin
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hahahaha...i cant believe they stayed rockered
Nov 18 2008 7:52PM
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JonathonChandler
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are you sure he wasn't trying nose butters or tip stands?

When i had t halls i did some tip stands and bent the tips just like that.

this is why i will never buy armada ever again.
Nov 18 2008 7:57PM
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EClay46
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thats called having broken skis, your core has snapped so it hinged up
Nov 18 2008 8:03PM
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chazz.
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Did the EXACT same thing with a pair or ar6's once, only it was the left ski and yes ^ the core has broken. Got them warrantied though, might want to check that out...
Nov 18 2008 8:24PM
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panojibber
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Trust me, this was not a tip stand attempt.

As for the broken core I'm pretty sure they're just bent, because he rode on them for an entire day the next day and did nose butters, and they didn't break.

Nov 18 2008 9:13PM
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Capurnicus
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I have had multiple ARVs do that in the back and front...and I LOVE IT. It's such a soft ski, if you ski hard at all, it's going to soften up a lot and go rocker...but that only makes it more fun!! I have a pair that has been like that in the back and front for over a year now and I sesh on them all the time, they're mad fu. They're not going to break, so don't worry about it, they'll work fine and be a blast to ride.
Nov 18 2008 9:34PM
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cobra_commander
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the real question is why are they mounted with markers?


but the rocker looks supper smooth and even, especially from ski to ski,  nice work.
Nov 18 2008 9:38PM
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Whifazoo
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any tips on rockering them a little more in the front and also rockering in the back lol , besides just ride harder lol
Nov 18 2008 10:09PM
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Capurnicus
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nah man, just ski on them a lot and it will just happen. if you need to even one side out just bend it hard ahaha. but they look nice and even in the picture. the back is a bit stiffer, took longer to become rockered on mine, but just have fun on them and they'll go rocker
Nov 18 2008 10:17PM
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Whifazoo
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yea dude i questioned my dad on the marker choice too

good thing i didnt have to pay for em :P

Nov 18 2008 10:18PM
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Whifazoo
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alright thanks man , and sweet vid reppin the no poles 1!!!!!

sooo dooopppeee

Nov 18 2008 10:24PM
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EClay46
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no, your core IS broken, thats how they got bent like that. i have had many skis that did the same thing, your core is broken but that doesnt mean the ski will just snap in half, you still have the fiberglass/topsheet/base/edges holding the ski together. but your core definately has snapped in the point where the rocker begins
Nov 19 2008 1:31AM
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skisquaw@420
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Nov 19 2008 1:47AM
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wildBILL*
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yea i learned about this tonite in a burton clinic at the shop i work at. every time you flex your skis the fibers in yer core break a little bit and change the camber by micro amounts. thats the crunching sound you hear when you flex them. but if something catastrophic happens then its noticeable like yer skis.
Nov 19 2008 1:53AM
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special_k10101
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i think that it's just a change in camber, not a break in the core because the rocker is so gradual.  i think you'd be able to tell if your core is snapped.  although, i've seen the core snap on armadas with much less effort than you used.
Nov 19 2008 12:07PM
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phishfood
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um. never heard that...is it normal? i have k2s
Nov 19 2008 12:12PM
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EClay46
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no, dude that means the core has been broken. how do you think the camber would be changed without the core breaking?



and phishphood, you know that creaking sound you hear if you hand flex a ski really hard, thats what he is talking about
Nov 19 2008 1:03PM
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A.R.
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hahah thats sick, but yea your core will be fucked.
and im sorry about your binding choice.
Nov 19 2008 6:59PM
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TheSpaceCowboy
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Can you say nose butter heaven
Nov 19 2008 7:04PM
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Whifazoo
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yea and same with switch takeoffs
Nov 19 2008 8:18PM
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ScriptMedia
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very nice, but will most likely break if you ride them hard
Nov 19 2008 8:24PM
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Whifazoo
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i hope they dont haahah
Nov 19 2008 8:36PM
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Jorgen.
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I have a pair of the 07 ARVs (07) and the the same thing happend to them. In my case it was just from riding really hard. I really didn't like it tho because the skis were really chattery and such when riding switch.

I ended up getting new skis anyways and now my younger brother rides the ARVs. He loves them how they are. When I got everything set up for warrenty he decided to keep them as is. So I guess it's all preferance.

Nov 19 2008 9:21PM
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skibum2292
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i wanna a pair of rockered arvs
Nov 19 2008 9:43PM
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special_k10101
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nah, you know how skis sometimes lose camber?

if you have a ski without a lot of supporting metal or carbon, the ski will lose camber, and if you ski them enough/butter etc. you can probably make them reverse camber without breaking the core... wood is an inherently flexible material and you can bend it to a certain degree without breaking it especially with the width of wood used in a ski core.

Nov 19 2008 10:05PM
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EClay46
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sorry, your wrong. his core is broken. end of arguement
Nov 19 2008 11:35PM
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Whifazoo
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lol
Nov 21 2008 10:25PM
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hippystinx
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did that to my fujatives
Nov 21 2008 11:16PM
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skiP.E.I.
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that happened to one of my PE's last year, except the edges broke on both sides of the tip and there were bits of wood and fiberglass sticking through the topsheet by the end of the day.
Nov 21 2008 11:58PM
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Whifazoo
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ouch
Nov 22 2008 1:31AM
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Jwalk
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were these his good skis or rock skis
Nov 22 2008 1:40AM
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Whifazoo
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lol theya re my skis :(
Nov 22 2008 8:06AM
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steevner
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No, you're wrong. Wood has memory.
Example: a longboard I built with 0 camber is now rockered after 2 months of riding it. And it's definitely not broken.
Nov 22 2008 8:19PM
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skisquaw@420
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thats after two months, if it happens in one catastrophic incident, the core snapped. the wood core of a ski has very little effect on how the ski performs. it has more to do with the composites used, which in this case, have lost almost, if not all, integrity. this does not mean they wont ride fine, but be weary when doing extreme nose butters or stalls, as the rest of the material will snap eventually
Nov 22 2008 9:08PM
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