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September 25th 2007
The Dumont's Empire

I know a lot of people who aren�t big fans of Simon Dumont. Most of those people don�t know him, and none of them are friends with him, but I�ve still heard them call him every bad name in the book. I�ve known him for quite a while now, and I�m always quick to defend him when people bring the hate. That�s because I feel like I know the real Simon. He�s extremely generous to the people that show him love and respect, and not afraid to be the opposite to those who don�t. He�s upfront, honest and not afraid to tell you what he thinks, and he�s always there for his true friends. Yet, the ongoing yin-and-yang opinion towards him has always made me wonder why a lot of people haven�t seen that side of him. Some might say he�s misunderstood, or that there are actually two sides to him, but I don�t think either are the case. I think it�s because most people haven�t had the opportunity to hear what really thinks, and what really matters to him. Last week, I sat down with him to try to rectify that situation. I didn�t want to interview him about partying or what kind of car he just bought or his rivalry with Tanner, as has been done so many times before. I wanted it to be more of a conversation between two friends about how excited he is about his new company, his thoughts on the future of skiing and how he wants to contribute to it, and how much it would mean to him if he could win a gold medal in the Olympics - Jeff Schmuck




photo: Jeff Schmuck


�So, what�s up with Empire?�


�Well, the best thing is, it�s not just one thing. If I can say anything it�s a more of a company that�s rider-based, rider-owned and rider-influenced. I don�t just want to go out there and make tons of money, obviously that�s the key in the end, but I want make something unique, something cool, and something everybody can be stoked on. I just want to add my own feel to it. I did the logo and I�m pretty psyched on it and now I�m moving into getting product samples. So people will see it soon enough."


�What kind of products are you going to be producing?�


�The products will be endless. I will be starting off with something and from there I want it to go into every field. The possibilities are endless, and that�s one of the reasons I�m starting this company. Let�s say somebody wants to make skis. They�ll make skis and a bunch of t-shirts and stuff, but I want to be able to do more than that, and go in any direction. One year I might say, �Hey, I want to make shoes this year,� and I�m going to make the coolest shoes and put all my effort into it. I think the company is going to take off."


�So you won�t just be focusing on one thing.�


�Exactly. I�m looking at someone like Oakley. They started twenty years ago selling bike grips out of the back of a truck, and now they don�t have bike grips anymore. Since then they�ve done sunglasses, goggles, outerwear, streetwear, shoes, and a bunch of other products, and they just sold for 2.2 billion dollars.�


�Who�s going to be running the show?�


�I�m going to have a big part. My best friend from my hometown who has his business degree and my agent will have a huge part in it as well, and I figured I needed people who are really close to me who I can trust, and my mom works super hard so she�s definitely going to be on board too.�

 

photo: Jeff Schmuck

�It says a lot about your character to have people you care about and want to give back to you running your company as opposed to stealing an executive-type of guy from say Target or Oakley, which I�m sure you could do.�

"Yeah, and at the same time I want it to be unique. And I feel like an executive guy might go too buy-the-book and say things like, �Yeah, this is what�s cool right now, so let�s do that.� I�m in the industry, I know what�s popular and try to have an idea of what�s cool, and I take everybody�s opinion into account. Jake is in the demographic I�m looking for so his is a good opinion to have, my mom is pretty hip and into things and she�ll do whatever it takes to see this succeed, and Michael (his agent) is in the industry all the time, talking to all the core companies, so I really value his opinion as well. I value everyone�s. Even all the kids on Newschoolers. Yeah, they hate a lot but at the same time they have really good opinions on what�s cool and what�s not. And I do plan on selling outside the ski industry but I want to keep it freeskiing-focused. I want to help give the sport more of an identity and that�s the main reason I started this company.�


�Any plans for a team, or will it just be you for the first year?�


�Nothing�s official but I have three athletes that I know of that are into it and one Euro guy that if I could get, it�s going to be ridiculous team-wise. All in all, I�ve got some good things going on, and I wish I could tell you everything right now but I can�t, because that�s how I want to market the company.�


�Fair enough. So when are products going to be available for sale to the public?�


�I�m getting my first samples in the next few days, so people might actually see what I�m coming with in Switzerland at the Freestyle.ch. All I can say is really soon. Definitely by the fall.�


�It�s just going to be internet sales for the first year right?�


�Yeah, just internet for the first year. I�m planning on doing a lot of limited edition type of stuff, because I think that�s the coolest. When I go into a shop and see something that not many people are going to have, I want it twice as bad.�


�So the shops that want it will have to wait till next year?�


�Yeah, this time next year. Internet sales will be the right way to start things off. Just so people can go on my website (www.empireattire.com) and check out some cool stuff, there�ll be a bunch of content up there and whatnot. It�s going to be sick and I�m super excited.�



photo: Felix Rioux


�There�s a rumor going around that on top of everything else, you�re starting a shop.�


�I actually just bought a commercial building in my hometown and gave my sister all the leeway to open up a store. She�s really into fashion and so I said, �Okay, if you want to open up a clothing store, open a clothing store.� I�ll have the Empire offices in there as well and plan on selling my product in there as well eventually.�


�And what�s up for this winter?�


�Hopefully keep the comp scene rolling and stay in the loop. I want my X-Games medal back real bad. I saw Tanner skiing in New Zealand this summer and it was ridiculous, so I�m pretty excited to compete against him.�


 
photo: Felix Rioux


�Speaking of that, in the intro to the halfpipe section in Yeah Dude, it was really nice to hear you say how important it is for you to push the sport in the right direction and how badly you want to see it in the Olympics. A lot of kids haven�t had the opportunity to see that side of you, and they just hate on you and assume you�re in it for the money and call guys like you and Jon sell-outs for riding for companies like Target and J-Lindeberg.�


�That�s ridiculous. Money is important to me because what a lot of kids don�t understand is that when guys like me and Jon are pushing thirty, we might not be making as much money as athletes and we might not even have jobs. I hope that�s not the case but it�s likely that there�ll be seventeen-year-olds doing tricks we helped innovate bigger and better than us and the industry may toss us out in the cold as athletes. So it is important for guys like us to make our money now, but seeing the sport go in the right direction is very, very important to me, and that�s why I want to see halfpipe in the Olympics so bad. And anyone that doubts what the Olympics would do for skiing and says it would be the hugest sell-out just doesn�t know what they�re talking about. Just look at what it�s done for snowboarding and Shaun White.�


�Oh yeah, I forgot that you�re friends with him. What�s his life is like after the Olympics?�


�It�s insane. His whole life has changed. I�ll be in the airport with him and he has to go and hide out in the Delta lounge, otherwise people will maul him. Everyone wants a piece of him, and you know how it goes, once you sign one autograph you�re signing for hours. People that don�t even snowboard know who he is and they all associate snowboarding with him, and that�s because of the Olympics.�


�You know a lot of people don�t realize it, but there is still a chance for this event to happen in 2010 in Vancouver. It�s a small chance, but it�s still a chance.�


�Yeah, it�s dwindling down to almost nothing, but the announcement of halfpipe skiing being put on the Dew Tour is probably the best thing I could think of happening. The Honda Ski Tour is great, but it�s kind of a downer that there�s only two stops this year and that there�s going to be snowboarding in it. I�m going to do both stops, but I�m super stoked on the Dew Tour.�


�Yeah we were talking about that at the office the other day and how sick it is that they�re putting skiing on it. For all the kids out there that don�t know what we�re talking about, the Dew Tour is a pretty damn big action sports event sponsored on by Mountain Dew that�s owned and broadcasted by NBC. Can you give them a little insight as to what�s going to happen with it?�


�The announcement was made pretty recently, so I�m not too sure about the Dew Tour other than it�s official, skiing is on it. But NBC does put it on and that�s a big, big deal. It�ll give a lot more people a little preview of what skiing is all about and what�s going on. And I think there�s enough drama in skiing competition-wise to make it a really attractive show that draws a lot of ratings for the networks and that�ll help with the Olympics.�


�No doubt. You take a look at the X-Games superpipe and how ESPN broadcasts it on Sportscentre, which is a big deal for you guys and for skiing. They estimate that about two million people watch that every year, where as twenty to thirty million people watched the snowboard halfpipe in Torino."


�I know. It�s crazy. So if this whole thing with the Dew Tour goes well, and NBC is really stoked on it, there�s still a chance that they could go to the IOC and say �Hey, skiing halfpipe is huge,� and drop it right into the Olympics.�


�Yeah. A lot of people don�t understand that in some way, it�s the TV networks that truly run the Olympics. The proper protocol for a new event to be put in the Olympics is for the host city to be stoked to make it happen, the governing body of the sport, in our case FIS, to work out a judging system and start the worldwide grassroots circuit, before taking it to the IOC for approval for the Games, who then have to get the thumbs up from the networks that they want to broadcast the sport. It�s a lot of politics. I�ve conversed with a guy who is heavily involved with the organizing of the freestyle events at the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver. He was telling me that when they went to the FIS Congress last year in Spain, they pushed for skiing halfpipe because it made more sense to them to have that event than skiercross, because the venue is already going to be there so it wouldn�t cost anything extra, and it was more exciting and targeted the youthful demographic that the Olympics have been losing but are starting to get back with snowboard halfpipe. But at the same time, he said they had to walk the line as the organizing committee, because it was more than obvious that FIS wanted skiercross to happen. He said all the North Americans and the guys from the UK seemed super into halfpipe, but that anytime it was brought up, the Euros wouldn�t even acknowledge the topic and would change the subject right away, and so of course skiercross got approved over us. So the way things stand, it seems like the only way this is going to go down is if the whole chain of command goes in reverse and NBC steps up to the plate and plops a briefcase full of money on the IOC�s desk and says, �We want halfpipe skiing at 2010.��


�Yeah, and let�s pray for it. I�m pretty sure that�s what happened with BMX in Beijing for next year. I don�t think that got approved until recently, and snowboard halfpipe didn�t get approved for the Olympics until over two years before 98.�


�Actually, I think it was more like a year and a half, but I could be wrong.�


�Really? See, that�s what makes me think it could still happen, and I�m definitely going to do everything I can to see it go down.�

 

photo: Felix Rioux

�What are you going to do personally to try to help the situation?�

"Anything and everything. Go to every halfpipe contest I can, compete the best I can and have as much fun as I can, because it the end that�s what�s most important in skiing. Every interview I do at every halfpipe contest from the X-Games to the Ski Tour I make a point of saying, �This is a push towards the Olympics. This event proves we have a structured event and that that we�ve got our act together and are working as hard as we can.� And I have people in my life from my agent to my sponsors working behind the scenes to help try to make it happen as well.�


�Douglas and I had a good chat about that a year ago and he was telling me that Troy (from Target) was planning on putting together a video of you and others skiing pipe and footage from the X-Games and whatnot to try to show it to Dick Ebersol (the president of NBC Sports) to show him what�s up. Which is pretty dope, considering not many people in the ski industry have the pull to have that sort of a meeting.�


�I�m pretty sure NBC would like to see it go down at this point, but another issue that has to get looked at it before it happens is the whole judging thing with FIS.�


�You know a lot of people talk about the whole FIS thing and what it would take for halfpipe skiing in the Olympics to work, with the judging system and all, and we could have a whole other conversation about just that subject. Although I feel like I know quite a bit I can�t claim to know as much about it as a lot of people. But it seems to me for this to happen, there�s going to be certain sacrifices that will have to be made on the athletes� parts, especially in the area of judging, and it�s possible that a few or a lot of athletes, like yourself or Tanner or Riddle, are going to get screwed hard by judging at FIS contests along the way in order to make this a reality, and for the event to go smoothly when it actually goes down. Are you willing to make that sacrifice?�


�Hell yeah. Because a contest is a contest and it doesn�t matter if FIS is judging it or not, there�s always controversy surrounding judging, and I don�t think I�ve ever been to a competition when someone hasn�t gotten screwed. It�s part of competing. And when it goes down, it�s not going to be random guys judging it, it will be FIS. And that�s okay, but we will all need to work super hard together to try to educate the judges and help them understand that the sport is unique and that�s why people come out to watch it and enjoy it.�


�So if it doesn�t end up happening in 2010, do you think you could still be there in 2014 in Russia?�


�If I could do it, if my body holds up, yes, because an Olympic medal is my top priority. It�s the next thing on my list. I mean, I want my X-Games title back so bad, but if I can get an Olympic medal�I�d trade all my X-Games ones for it.�




photo: Tyler Hamlet


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oh and doug hates dumnot haha
cool
awesome
Ya Simon
m, I was wondering what that add in freeskier was
yay for simon
i enjoyed that
sweet
GUZ
noice
wow im up top in here sweet.
Simon is a sick rider
im pretty sure their is already empire BMX. yes, yes their is already empire BMX from southern stats, they sponsor like chase hawk and aaron ross.
thats amazing... i cant believe made an OLD ENglish Text font as a graphic... and alll by himself nonetheless. Empire is probly the gayest name for a company, why not name it something like flaming flamingos or failed endeavour.
I thought Tanner isn't competing anymore? so whats simon talking about competing with him?
cant ebelieve the hate that gets directed to the dumont...sick bloke imo
sweet article schmuck!!!
Merk Sauce Anonymous?
nice article
I liked that interview. Props to Simon, Good luck with the company and let's we can get in for Whistler
he's to hungry to stop doing comps yet
the dumont slays. everyone that hates on him is just jealous
sick article, go dumont!
so Simon is all for skiing to get huge and be like snowboarding. Thats cool and i understand why somebody would want that but is there anybody who doesn't want that to happen? Does skiing really need to be packaged up and sold to the masses like snowboarding is? Part of skiings appeal is the fact that not as many people are into it.
sick
I agree^^^ Im proud to be a skier for the fact that less people do it, but if you think about it the dude wants money. I mean if you were in his position to make as much money as you could you would probably do the same thing.
^You like skiing cause less people do it? Why don't you go find a sport that acctually like instead of doing something for the sake of being different? No offence but it just seems stupid to ski cause not many people do it
"One year I might say, ‘Hey, I want to make shoes this year,’ and I’m going to make the coolest shoes and put all my effort into it. I think the company is going to take off.' "

totally simon thats nike's approach for sure.
Go skierpipe for 2010! With Olympic gold on the line you know we would see the biggest and best pipe runs in history.. Imagine how amped the skiers would be for that event, and how hard they would throw down.
it's like where's Waldo. only instead of Waldo its the Fatman
yeah schmuck.. nice interview..
the only thing i have a problem with is the halfpipe in the olympics. he presents the wrong reasons... i mean "just look at what it has done for snowboarding and shawn white" cool. now every little city shit that comes to the mountains wants to be just like shawn white and snowboard, then they think they are the shit and claim being a snowboarder. Plus, shawn white is a total and complete asshole to anyone that isn't friends with him. I wouldn't be surprised if he laughs at simon behind his back for being a skier, even though they are friends.
I think Dumont is sweet for trying to push this sport as much as possible. He seems cool and seems to know exactly what he/us need to do to get this sport in to the olympics - which, whether you admit it or not, would be huge for the skiing scene/companies/us.
Though without hating on Dumont, it's comments like "obviously the biggest incentive was the prize money" in Yeah Dude that really portray him as being a selfish money grabber.
Now hell, i understand that we've all gotta make a living and that's all sweet, but fuck if i was on the honda ski tour i would be so stoked to be there skiing i wouldn't give a shit about the money...
Yeah I think there could be more money in the industry, but I don't want skiing to go too main stream, I also am not to sure about this Dumont kid. Hes too cocky for my likings.
Do people in Europe actually care about skiercross? On the Honda Tour I just turned it off, it's not exciting at all. I'd rather watch either World Cup DH/SG/GS/SL or a pipe/slopestyle. Cross is a stupid artifact of the 90s.
Awesome article Schmuck..keep it up bro, you're making ns interesting again.

You can't really call Dumont a sell out just because he competes and rakes in all kinda cash from skiing, it's the same as you or I getting up in the morning and going to work...the difference being we don't get to do exactly what we want like Dumont. There's so few people in the ski industry who actually make money so we immediately hate on someone and call them a sell out when they do...but realisticly, the more money that ends up in the ski industry, the better off we all are.
Yeahh dumont
empire ja rule uh ohhh uh oh uh oh uh oh empiraah
Hahhaha... naw look Simon and I made up!



Halfpipe in the Olympics is a fantastic idea. Its cool for things to remain small and core, but the fact of the matter is that will not create survival for the sport. Skiing would flourish, and there would be so much more money in the sport for athletes and core companies. Parents wouldn't hold you back from participating, mountains could never plow their parks down...

Things just get so much more solid for us by being recognized as a legit sport.

hahahahahaha that company is gonna bottom out so fast...

i dont think ive ever heard a worse strategy in my life for a startup than "we're just gonna make whatever i want to! if i wanna make shoes, ill make shoes! yay!"

even if you succeed in completely altering your product line every year without completely broke due to infrastructure modification problems (wont happen) then it'll be impossible for them to keep from alienating people?

i doubt someone will be like "wow, i really liked empire skis and gloves! i think im gonna sit around and wait to see if they make skis and gloves again this year!"

not only will people not be loyal to the brand if they keep shifting their products, but think how pissed people will be if they actually like something Empire makes one year, and then that category of product is never made ever again...

what an irritating plan, that guy's got some real balls to think that people are gonna go along with this bullshit...i dont think im a dumont fan any more
Just think of what Shaun White's support might be able to do if he were to speak out on behalf of skiers & half-pipe 2010.

Since Dumont is pretty much the posterboy of halfpipe skiing I'm glad to see he's pushing it in that direction.
aren't there already a billion companies called empire?
i'm afraid of freeskiing getting huge i couldn't care less if we get more exposure. why is that so beneficial? i don't understand. Money? that shouldn't be a motivation at all money can be taken away from you, the love of skiing can't.
seeing that target ad in freeskier mag. made me really sad to see the sport become a part of the corporate. it made me sick
I like Simon, even though he seems to be focusing to much on money I have always been fond of his skiing ever since I saw him compete for the first time several of years ago. I don´t think it´s really fair when for example Tanner is described as the most passionate skier around. Tanner can spend his seasons skiing backcountry since he makes more money in a month than most pro skiers do in a year.

Though, as stated above, Simon´s company wont be round for long. What kind of immature way of thinking is that? Comparing Empire with Oakley. Come on! Get a hold of yourself.
Word, that looks pretty cool... im not buying any 60 dollar teeshirts tho.
Excellent Article, makes me want to go back and bump every thread ever created regarding support for the skier half pipe in the Olympics.
stoaked
yo i think what simon is doing is good. and even though some people don't want it to happen skiing needs to get bigger or it would still have the chance of dying out. sure money can fuck stuff up but there are skiers that yeah make money but still love what they're doing. if someone wants to pay me to do something, especially if that sommething is what makes me happiest in this world then so be it. i'll be doing what i love and i'll be able to pay my bills.

you know what, what am i saying that sounds like a shitty idea. fuck haters.
thats some bullshit.
dopeness, I have mixed feelings about the olympics, but it would be dope none the less
sick interview!
So what are the actual products?
euro's hatin on halfpipe skiing...
when i cleaned up the riders lounge at freestyle.ch, i found one of simon dumonts gloves :)
nice souvenir!!
luc
I haven't been a big fan of Dumont but if the kid wants to build a future for himself why flame on him? Every man is entitled to his own opinion and at the very least his actions represent them.
Nice work nooka. you all growns up now.
fuck it simon. if you cant get it approved for 2010, poach it with one massive 540 then bust outta there with everyones jaws on the floor. i know cypress (HP venue vancouver) you can get in and out no prob. then see what everyone thinks of skiing halfpipe.

fuck the euros and hp...they have their HEADS so far up their asses, they think racing is still the only way down the mtn...(except Candide of course...)
simon is the tits of the ski industry
aka the man
great first post Schmuck!
cool cool
there's already an empire paintball company, and they are pretty big between the core crowd of that sport. Sponsor some pro and semi-pro teams in NPPL
all you guys that like skiing because not that many people do it are retarded. You prob like music groups until they become popular too. So what your really saying is that you like to be different. If thats they case then be one of those fags dressed in all black and shit. For years people have been talking on this site about exposure for skiing...and now you dont want it
"fuck the euros and hp...they have their HEADS so far up their asses, they think racing is still the only way down the mtn...(except Candide of course...)"


ya except Jon and Candide are treated like complete rockstars where they're from, even by people who don't ski.
great article Jeff
Halfpipe won't get into 2010, I'm sure of that.
However, if these people who are so stoked about it get their heads together, they create some momentum and get'er'dun. Somebody should start up an anti-olympics event for 2010. Base it at Grouse mountain or the other Van-city one. The sponsors and companies that could potentially benefit most should fund it. SET UP YOUR OWN DAMN HALFPIPE EVENT DURING THE WINTER OLYMPICS in 2010. PUBLICIZE LIKE IT'S THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST...anything NON-olympics will be catchy. DRAW THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER. SHOW THE EXECS WHAT DEMAND THERE IS. If it works, you get a free ticket into 2014. If it doesn't, the sport doesn't warrant being an event, and everyone just chill and go eat some peanut butter.
All I ask is that you now call me the godfather of the event.
Quit claiming with that picture Doug.
In response to TWoods response up towards the top. You say that shawn white is an asshole to everyone who doesn't know him and he probably talks shit behind simons back. First of all you have probably never even seen shawn white in person and you obviously don't know him. He's definitely not an asshole. This is how the whole article started out. Schmuck was talking exactly about people like you in his first paragraph. So shut the fuck up. You are the asshole. I'm really starting to hate this website because of assholes like you
hey, if it can happen i'm all for it.
truly, i wouldn't want an Olympic medal if the sick small lifestyle of skiing turned into a huge celebrity life. Thats just not my preferred way of living. The whole clothing company idea seems sick, cant wait to see it happen.
it's all part of progression boys and girls
what beats an olympic medal?nada
jea
good luck dumont
To get HP in 2010, people need to pressure FIS. Write letters! FIS is the one holding things up. VANOC is in favour.
dope article. good luck with empire simon. il have to check it out soon.
i want it to be in the olympics i hope it is awsome article to i liked it alot!
Geez, this Jeff Schmuck character is kind of a big deal around here.
nice interview schmuck, good questions.

Verno, that is an awesome idea, have an anti-olympics halfpipe!

and doug, skiing will survive with or without Olympics. newschooling may change, insurance companies may shut down the sport but skiing will survive, and BC will always be there (until the world melts). The only other problem is FIS and spin to win and the bullshit of no style.
i can't believe the shit you guys are writting. always so fucking negative. You pack of pussies go complain somewhere else.
great article Schmuck..this is the side of NS i enjoy..

Interesting business plan though with so much diversification of its products..thats generally not too sustainable!
All thes best to him though
Progression of skiing = Money involved.
I don't feel like ranting but his company is retarted for many reasons. He's not true to the sport at all and he wants freeskiing to go mainstream so he can make money. He wants to be saun white.
yeah VERNO'S idea is soo sick, dumont dominatess
i agree with bishops post. we need this.

i think dumont is a great guy and the fact hes out there doing something to get us in says alot.
Good luck with Empire. You may need it if these guys enforce their trademark rights... http://www.thinkempire.com/
"fuck the euros and hp...they have their HEADS so far up their asses"
nice ryan, nice

Schmuck I like your matt harvey photo at the end!
ya dumont empire is sick and half pipe olympics will be nice for they will happen
I finally see that skiing exposure is a good thing. Sure the snowboarder gapers are so annoying, and yes, it would ruin our tight culture, but we could still stay away from the gapers and keep the passionate skiers together. That's what the passionate snowboarders do, and i don't think it would be hard to exclude the newbies who just do it to be cool.

And great article Schmuck!!!
So lets see: He's got a logo taht he drew himself, a name that's already been trademarked, one of his buddies from high school who just graduated from community college, and his mom.

And oh yeah, he wants to make a bunch of shit. Like tons of shit, all sorts of shit, not even skiing shit necessarily.

Are you looking for investors Simon? Cause this sounds like the greatest company ever!
his eyes were kind fucked?
I thought it was pretty cool and I could see it going either way. It would be cool to have more money in the ski industry, this means more money for all ths pros and maybe someday most pros can live soley from skiing. However, imagine one day skiing is cool, and you walk into school and half all these kids pretending there amazing at skiing and have sponsors, It would kill me.
I hope that skiings in the olympics because skiing can always be amazing. Its just what you make it.
skierandahalf.... last time i checked northeastern wasnt a community college, but word. keep smokin.
Is simon dropping oakley and targer?
`target`
jeeeeeeeeeeez, such passionate replies. wow, just wow.. props to schmuck for the stimuli creating all these responses. go man go!
FIS SUCKS learn from your history, the FIS killed moguls and freestyle the same will happen with half pipe...Listen to what Teje said back in the day..
"fuck the Olympics" who cares about the money and exposure ... freeskiing doesnt need the olympics...
wicked interview,, super pumped for empire!
i like bein a soul skier..
verno hahah that made my day..frikkin hilarious.
id probly be there
cool stuff man
simon is the only thing that keeps me from cying at night
at the beginning of the article I was really looking forward to changing my opinion of Simon. Too bad my previous beliefs were just reaffirmed.
damn!! a new oakley???????

LOOK HOW WHITE DOUG IS!!!!1!!!!!!!ONE!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!
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Aussiepimp, you don't know shit about it. Yes, some FIS events have floundered because of piss poor management, some simply faltered because the public lost interest (aerials), still others have done just fine (snowboarding).

Terje didn't want to go to the Olympics so he didn't, good for him. Those that did go were all stoked. Someone like Danny Kass now has the opportunity to benefit from both sides of snowboarding, pro events, and FIS comps like the Olympics.

Snowboarding is a great example of how a sport that has a life outside of FIS, can use FIS to their advantage (Olympic opportunity), Freeskiing is in a similar stage, it has a strong life of it's own outside of FIS, so all FIS can do for pipe at this stage, is offer more opportunities for athletes. Those who don't want to do FIS events don't have to.

I'm sick of people like you, who obviously would never have a chance in hell of going to the Olympics, shooting their mouth off trying to shut down the idea for all of those athletes who are actually on top of the sport and want to go.
Gnar stuff i will totally buy some empire swag when it comes on sale thats sweet a freeride center company thats gonna kick some butt
Skiercross got approved over halfpipe... halfpipe needs to have a well established FIS WC circuit before it will get into the olympics. From what I hear the FIS halfpipe the judging is still pretty unfair, and biased. Kinks need to be worked out with that before it gets IOC approval. But it would be nice too see halfpipe in the olympics...
I know this text my be long to read, but if you're smart enough to get out of high school it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes and I really do think it makes sense. Feel free to flame though!

I don't understand how people on NS could say "I don't want more exposure / more money / more ppl involved in the sport if it becomes a mainstream pro sport"? I mean, I use to be on NS a few years ago, my user number was like 15 000 something. Should I be mad at everyone that registers after me? Think about it for a god damn second! Everyone was stoked when NS had some great opportunities (cause it was going directly to you?) Don't get me wrong, I love NS and I do think it's good that it can grow, but it should just be the same for skiing in general!

Let's say, Seth Morrison, wich I think everyone will agree to say that he has pushed the sport, has been one of the most proefficent skier, one that kinda started all that "pro" aspect of skiing and probably never skied for the money. HOWEVER, I remember sharing ideas with him at some point and he was like "I can't understand how Tanner H. gets so much money. After a trip to AK and the travel money from my sponsors I can barely save up to 10 000$". I'm sure Seth doesn't ski for the money, BUT if he had more maybe he could go in AK, in Europe, South America and just travel everywhere to ski, film, enjoy!

Money is not about being a Sell-Out. I'm def. not a fan of the cockyness and the way I use to see guys like Dumont, T. Hall, Pete O., and all those gangsta kids out there. But you know what, who am I to judge without knowing them PERSONALLY. I've met Pete O. two summers ago at High North and every summer since then, I met Simon this summer and more recently in Montreal at IF3 and T. Hall at IF3 again (I even had to pick him up from the ground to get him in the bar) and you know what, I totally changed my mind about them. They're not as cocky as it might seem. Let's put it this way: they're not affraid of saying what they think and YES they might have a lot of confidence, but doing what they do, the way they do it, it's normal to have a lot of confidence. And even if they're arguably three skiers that can ski to live, I don't think they are skiing in order to raise money and just stop skiing after. Sure they want more money, get some luxury, but it would only help them to ski more (not less).

I already hear ppl calling me a sell-out. I'm not a pro, I probably never will and there's one thing you have to realize. How many skiers are out there, not only freestyle / freeride, but skiers in general? A TON! More than Hockey players. Is there more money involved in Professional Hockey (for North Americans). FOR SURE! How many people are saying "yeah I'm sponsored by Nike/Bauer or Reebok cause I'm just that good in hockey?" Honnestly, it's not common and trust me I've played a high level. Getting more money in the sport doesn't more "randies" getting sponsored. Oakley won't sponsor kids that don't know what they're doing. Big companies, with a lot of money, won't spend it for no reason. Top pros will get more $, sports will get more exposure, progression will just be faster and faster and you guys will just be able to say in 50 years from now "yeah I was part of the small community at that time!"

Props to schmuck.
Props to Simon.
Props to NS.
Props to everyone that skis, no matter if you are a pro, a soul-skier or an online (NS poster) skier!

that was my 2 cents!
Oh yeah, it would be nice to see skier halfpipe as a demonstration event in 2010 at LEAST.. I mean, the infastructure is all there for snowboarding, might as well give it a chance to prove itself, so there might be consideration for 2014...
^^ sorry I'm just sick of brainless ppl and all this kiddy acting. It remains me the "Cyber-"""SPORT"""" community. It's ran, played and followed by kids (usually ppl under 23 or so). If you aspire to be pro be professional, NOT JUST GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO!
i like
yo tride your a retard, I was on a state mogul team just below making junior national team for moguls before I quit, ive been skiing since the begining of freeskiing and I saw people doing grabs as early as 1995/96 +I compete on the big mountain world tour and im a beter skier than you.. just because you dont agree with my opinion doesnt mean you can make bull shit up like that.. and i think all the facts above give me a preety good insite into what will happen if half pipe ends up an olympic sport...
I think skiing is fine the way it is people are already making good money look at jon,tanner, dumont, henrick, gurlain ect ect. I dont want skiing to be like snowboarding and to be cool in the mainstream then more kooks like you will do the sport and every one will sell out ride for massive compaies like target that use sweat shop labour to produce shitty good that fall apart for mass production, no hate on dumont he just wants to get paid but in the end. the bigger skiing gets the more people are on the hill the more rules and it will do the same thing freestyle did in the early 80s' crash and burn, history repeats its self... so FUCK FIS and there rules and national teams ...
hiring that schmuck guy was such a good call for this site. every article of his i've read so far has been an obvious step up in quality from the typical articles. not trying to say others were bad, but his are just on a higher level. and my pops is one of the best sports journalists in the country and has been since before i was born 27 years ago so i'm not just blowing smoke up his ass.

as far as simon's company goes, i wish him luck because he's gonna need it.

i'm still undecided on olympic hp though. but comps have never really been my cup of tea anyway.
Yo aussiepimple, sweet claims mate! Oooooh an Australian state mogul team! Woweee, that sure gives you a lot of experience with FIS at a World Cup level doesn't it? You never even made it to a Nor-Am or Europa Cup, so tell us again how experience at Aussie national events makes you any sort of expert with regards to FIS at a high end level? Did you get to stand beside Desovich and Toppa at Jr Nationals once and overhear some gossip about the big events?

Yeah, that and some last place finishes in big mountain events (that anyone can enter) sure does guarantee that you are a better skier than myself or half the people on here. Because of course there's no chance that any of us came from a high-end competitive background right? If you only knew.....

Anyways, who gives a fuck if YOU think skiing is fine the way it is. You are not someone who would ever have a chance to go to the Olympics so leave the decisions about whether or not it should get in to those people with the skills to go.

But hey, I'm sure if "claiming" was in the Olympics you would have a decent chance....C'mon and back that shit up kid, let's hear some of your results from IFSA tour events....or from any FIS comp bigger than the Hotham Hammer or Abom mogul challenge...
Oh yeah, one other question for you since you claim to be such an expert in all things FISlympic.

You state that pipe should not be in the Olympics because we need to "learn from our history, the FIS killed moguls and freestyle".

You also state that pipe should not be in the Olympics because you don't want it to "be like snowboarding and be cool and in the mainstream"

So, the premise of your brilliant argument against the Olympics is that it will.... "kill the sport" and "make it cool and mainstream".

Sorry if I'm the only one who finds that to be an impossible contradiction....
Great article buddy. I really enjoyed how candid yet layed back it was. Unfortunately as much as I enjoyed those two pairs of beautiful blue eyes at the end, I thought we had an understanding about putting yourself in your own articles...
^^Hahahahha... Schmuck got PWNED!

Aussiepimp and tride... guys maybe take this bitching to PM's? I think you guys both have decent opinions, but you're just making it a flame war...

man we need like a flame war place where people vote on it. lol...

At a base level all skier/snowboarders are pretty cool people that share a love for a sport.

The people at the top of our sport are no different from anyone else.
Given the same chances/ability everyone whould make the same moves as these guys!

Good luck to em and keep pushing this SICK sport!!!
so sick
I'm serious about this Anti-Olympics PIPE event. I mean, who the hell really wants to pay $100+ and $30 parking to go see a friggin' moguls competition or a stand at the finish line in at the Super-G??? Pipe skiing is literally the best format for a spectator sport on snow. No other event can compete, except for maybe aerials...hell, almost the same event.
Seriously, when the nail is in the coffin for a 2010 OLY pipe event, you Vancouverites go up to Grouse/Cypress and take a well-written business plan. Getting sponsors is no prob for an event like this, because they're totally there already, but are getting very little exposure compared to the Cokes, Nokias and Samsungs of the world. Ya, unfortunately, you won't be able to get people like Mikey Douglas involved (I'm sure he's paid to pump Whistler Only), but you can get many other big names to come out and participate and pump the event. Every athlete would rather come to VAN for the olympics rather than watch it from hom. If I was in Van, I'd set up this event for sure. I'd charge $10 (incl. parking) to get some of the tourist cash there. Set up a hot dog stand selling $6 red hots and $4 cokes and call it a day. A pipe event would be the highlight of peoples' week. Freeskiing will thank you for it. Seriously. Someone champion this idea and get on it. Who's a big sponsored name based outta Vancouver?...or even Whistler, but not tied to Whistler? This is going to take the biggest names in the world to come together, but if LINE, K2, Solly, etc. get together, it'll get done. Those companies stand to prosper the most, and they know it, so they'll pitch in for an anti-oly event that's raising the stature of the sports that are their bread and butter.
Think big people. NS, you guys are already leading this shit, but also stand to prosper and are WELL-connected. Get'er'done.
this kid is a dumbass
no, I think he's got a good idea that needs a little direction.

If and when skiing is officially uninvited to the 2010 olympics, the best way to prove the mistake is by having the most legitimate skiing pipe comp at the same time, right in their backyard. In order for it work it would have to be planned very professionally and marketed extremely well. At the same time as boosting moral among halfpipe skiers and proving how big a deal halfpipe skiing is, it would also feel kinda like a union strike rally or something
DUMONT..send some samples to EVO..its a ski shop owned and oprated bby riders here in seattle..evogear.com...evoseattle.com
im sure they would help you get your stuff out there
haha nice this is jokes
I like the suggestion of poaching the olympic pipe. I bet that'd end really well.
common, he can go on what team he wants . what companie he wants .. nobody wants to know if yall like him or not. so dont tell us. yo simon, if you want a gold medal go get one dude. And bring that in QC. vive le quebec
waybackmachine doesnt know what hes talking about
Pretty sick. But I'd like to see slopestyle be pushed more than halfpipe. But I'm not really into the halfpipe thing.
oh right.
Yeah Dumont. Empire is also a paintball company but this is better. Olympic skier pipe would be soo sick hope it happens.
interesting article, hope that works out for dumont, dont be jealous peoples be happy. ^.^
For those ragging on Dumont's company plan, check out where Virgin started. Yeah, it's the fucking biggest brand in the world.
cool i guess
sick but ... goooood luck
its more complicated and more harder than that start a compagny
tk
empire already exists, ive been wearing their gear since '04
you people are idiots who don't want more exposure for the sport....the money generates more products, more parks/pipes, and overall more progression for the sport; who cares is simon is making money, he's doing it by drawing attention to the sport that we all love
woah....

did you know in japan sony has so many different products that they dominate nearly every industry? they make everything from womens underwear to electric blankets to the tvs and video games we love here in the US. but a few years back they started to get major hate from the japanese people cuz their brand had oversaturated the marketplace.

im not ragging on dumont or his company, but i think he should think about what his products are going to represent before "going into every field."
simon's got a good head on his shoulders, he's a smart business man and he knows how he wants to influence the sport and steer it in the right direction.

plus he's really fucking hott
I really really like the idea of a separate 1/2 pipe venue at the same time as Vancouver Olympics.
some pretty damn long comments on this one eh
I dont understand why everyones so focused on the fact that he's trying to make money. Money makes life a million times easier. Honestly most 21 year old guys are bums and the fact that simons as motivated as he is to realize his potential not only in skiing but also in business is pretty fucking cool. Skiing needs more money, because as fun as it is the people at the top are doing it to make a living too.
i give every props i can give to simon
hes the shit yo
Dumbont
I see the anti-olympic event as a big opportunity with greater access to the olympic masses/people(Whistler's going to be a zoo during 2010).

As for this Dumont idea, heck, man, it's worth a shot. Everyone knows that every business has like a 15% chance of succeeding. It's tough & you gotta want it BAD.
To all the haters, whether you like Dumont or not (I don't know him...but I don't like his image), it's way too easy to jump on the "Crap-Idea bandwaggon" cuz there's an 85% chance his idea tanks in the end. He's a skier just like you and I. Support the guy....if not with funding & purchases then with moral support.
Fuck, I hate haters. All you hater emo punks just oughtta get it over with: Get the Bitter Old Person tattoo on your ass now; don't wait for 70.
yea simon. keep on keepin on
everyone loves the dumont
steezy
simon, don't let your high ideas take over your reality.
there is no way a business that has no focus will ever survive. The capital needed to make shoes one year and then T-shirts the next would cost far too much.
good interview. i think he is a pretty sick rider. but i have to say the company name is lacking. there is already a company called "Empyre" they sell ski clothes and stuff. walk into like a zumies and u can find it, but Empyre shit is bad quality and the "Empyre" logo basically looks the same so my advice would be to pick a better company name cuz that name is basically already taken.
i dont get why we think snowboarding is sold out. im a skier and have never snowboarded but i know that the only snowboarder who is sold out is shawn white. Kids that snowboard complain about being sold out. money in the industry only pushes the sport. The more funding you have, the sicker movies are made. Look at Mack Dawg Productions. They put all the money they make back into their movies. I think more money in the industry is good as long as you put the money back into skiing. unlike msp. more like kris ostness.
i mean most snowboarders think shawn white is sold out
no matter what happens to the sport, as long as theirs snow, ill still be skiing
empire is already a company name...do i smell a lawsuit?
nah. cuz you can change a name in a second.. even just something like empire attire would probably fix the problem. NOT a big deal. haha
"Get the Bitter Old Person tattoo on your ass now; don't wait for 70." - Verno

Hahahahha... thats some funny ass shit! You got a point man, how come we complain about the older people in skiing being too "stiff" yet we decimate one of our own for trying to do something new?

I created a separate private forum for those interested in organizing-discussing-supporting-creating a separate Skier 1/2 Pipe comp at the same time as Vancouver 2010 - message me for an invite.
tattoo in my ass never! lol
ass,never*
"Hahahahha... thats some funny ass shit! You got a point man, how come we complain about the older people in skiing being too "stiff" yet we decimate one of our own for trying to do something new?" - Mr. Bishop

It's rampant in free skiing. I don't get it. It's like sitting at the top of a booter and laughing and pointing at a dude who just tried an S-rail for the first time and ate it hard....yet, you're at the top on your ass too chicken to hit the 'S' on your own. It's easy to point and make fun boyz, it's the one's who sack up and try shit (win or lose) that end up ahead. Whether Dumont has a good idea about business right now is irrelevant. At the end of this all, though, he'll know more than all you scared haters ever will. I give him props for trying.
sounds like a plan dumonster, i know i'm down
the olympics are gay as fuck. do you really want to move aerials into the pipe?
^^ Yea thats good point. I bet those Russian arial gymnastics would then change sport... Of course Simon wants to go to the Olympics so he could get more money and fame. But what else would happen to the sport? More comps? More money? More serious skiers? I think that freeskiing is going to go to the Olympics sooner or later, but altought I have been thinking this for a few years my opinion is still negative. I would much rather have a gold medal in X-games than in Olympics :)
he says "Just look at what it’s done for snowboarding and Shaun White.”
I dont think to many people want skiing to go where shawn white brought snowboarding... olympics is a baddd idea for skiing
theres a shitload of comments u[ there!
it's so cool to see how motivated he actually is at such a young age. pipe skiing in the olympics would bring a ton of publicity to the sport, whether that be a good or bad thing. i support him. plus i'm excited for his clothing line!
There is already a company named Empire, I have a feeling they might not want to share their company name with anyone.
Nice interview, some depth not totally superficial as so often with sports interviews (though the quasi-emotional prologue was a bit slushy to read)

Welcome to politics Simon. The IOC like the UN is in the end affected by national votes not money. People in Alpine countries vote, they want their sports they win at to be in, governments set up their national olympic reps, they are political appointees, they vote accordingly.

NBC putting money in is great, and it might make some third world countries smell money and vote this way or that, but for the rest of the world the end game is "will i still get elected if "our" sport drops out of the Olympics (especially if it is replaced by a sport the USA lead with).

Yet i am still optimistic that freeski halfpipe will be in the 2014 Olympics, the IOC has been discredited for all time by the corruption charges of a few years back and the London 2012 (summer) Olympics plans to introduce more extreme sports including (in discussion) skate boarding, it will open the door.
skierandahalf sees the truth
Wow, a chance this post was real long, cuz else I would've finish reading long ago and then my internet would've still be fuck...
And good interview as well, too bad some people didn't read the part where it talks about all the haters.
Any way, I think the olympics are a good thing, it might screw pipe skiing faster than without it but, let's be serious, there is a limit to how high and how many spins you can do in a pipe, and I think we are getting close to it as it is...
As for the compagny, might as well try it now while he's still making money from skiing, no point trying it later when he doesn't have his name to back it up and he doesn't have the money from the comps to back it up...
And good for him to be a sell out, if I could sell out like he does... meaning skiing year round in every country and doing what I want all the time, wich is what I do pretty much, but without the money being a problem, well there is no doubt I would put a big target on my skis.
That's my point, a bit long but well, it's no short topic anyway.
Stop worshiping skiers.
Honestly, lets be real, yeah some will say its cool for skiing to be less mainstream, but what exactly is selling out. Lets be realistic and admit money is a love hate relationship. Why hate on a guy for wanting more money. If you had a shot for making more money would you be like naw im gonna just chill. Is it selling out if you get a masters degree or would you settle for bachelors. Is it selling out if you want a promotion on your job to management or executive positions or is it better to just stay in a cubicle? Is it selling out to want more money to better support your family and loved ones? He skis just like us, but unlike most of us, its his job. That is the thing some of you guys/gals fail to realize. Of course he loves doing it, but its still a job/career. Do you work for free or do you try to money?

It you take skiing out of your interest/activity sector put it into your career sector. . .clearly you must want money, who works for free thats not volunteer work. Given the fact he is giving back in someway or another, hes not selfish.

Pushing for skiing in the olympics is big. Its not selling out in any shape or anyway. And olympics is not about money. Its about competing on a international scale and showing the world what you can do.
word!
sweet shit.
im all for simon pushing skiing for the olympics, but wanting as much hype as snowboarding? is it worth it? all the olympics have done for snowboarding is make a new generation of groms who think that there shit and have mommy and daddy buy them the gear they see white and autti and whoever riding on tv. they have no passion for the sport. its on tv so it muct be cool. why would we want to see that happen to skiing? these kids dont know what its like to wake up early and grab first gandi on a powder day. to get to the park early or just ski the mountain and have fun. because you love the sport. not because its whats 'in' and everyone else does it.

we skiers are elite.
sounds like he is doing what he can,
i hope to see him make it happen! shoes are a no go... but dope outter wear?? and im sorry
but the name Empire.. is kinda played.
i dont no how people can hate simon hes pushed the sport soo far him and tanner have put half pipe on the map and i think its bullshit what the euros are doing just because there not good at it it cant go in the olympics
love simon !
i dont know it this was mentioned already but one of the illest snowboard shops on the east coast is called EMPIRE and they have been holding it down in quebec for years. they put on one of the best big air comps to off here in canada with names pros like marc frank montoya , europe pros and many local ripers. Empire is the shitt and i cant believe it is being simon for his company. ohh well. best of luck
shitt,i missed a couple of words but try to make sense of it all.thanks
for more on the EMPIRE Shop and the EMPIRE Shake Down big air just google it up. normaly the big air is held at mont st sauveur or st anne in quebec from what i heard. last year i think they had set up a rail and box feature over top a mcdonalds buiding that was built for the comp on the hill. they had a kitchen , cashier counter and a sitting area in the building with a transparent roof. un fucking beleivable.
hey simon, you said that a lot of kids hate you and stuff. i think thats kinda messed up cuz i really like and tottally think its kewl that u r willing to sacrifice some contests to get skiing in the olympics. i think you have progressed soo far for the sport and that hating you is a big mistake. you've probably done more for the sport than any body else. by the way wat is EMPIRE gonna be selling. i really want to kno.
much love simon, the shit you do on skis and the way that you look at the sport and the industry are wicked, who can hate on that?
http://www.englandclothing.com/, about the old english "e"..
Seriously people.....what the hell. This situation seems much more simple than everyone is making it. If skiing makes it into the Olympics it will be GOOD for certain levels of the sport (more kids pick it up, level of progression rises). It will also be bad, in that it provides the PUBLIC with a limited window on what freeskiing is and worse than anything might misrepresent it. This is why Terje boycotted when snowboard pipe got the okay since it wasn't done RIGHT. Lets hope they can pull it off so we finally see more NSSA skier visits!!!
dumont empier is going to be the sickest thing ever............dumont rocks
Dumont is seriously a cool dude, and Shmuck was right about saying that he's generous to people that show him love and respect. When I was in Whistler he did just that by buying me a shot after I told him he was sick. Thanks Simon.
first of all i think what Dumont does on his skis is awesome.
in my opinion it's a good thing if pipe will make the olympics. it's an opportunity for the sport to become more known and in this way getting more resources.
nice interview and keep on going Simon.
hey its one of your bigest fans i hope to see u doing well in this new company oh and look out for me in the future i am working so hard so i can be come one of u guys i love u simon and good luck in the future oh and my name you will find out i will be there one day i hope
anybody who's hating on simon has their head way up their ass. he's fucking awesome and haters are just jealous.
pushing our sport into the olympics will put it in the public eye, but face it, do we really want all that? freeskiing is a community that you actually have to get out there an participate in, not something you watch on the telly once every few years. i don't think that's really the direction we want to move in.
skiing needs to be in the olympics. some might argue that its not like a tradiotional olympic sport or something but if sports like snowboarding and bobsleding r in it then skiing should be in it.
dumont is a beast
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