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Jan 1 2013
2:52:23AM
how much harder could you make digging a guy out of the sow. this dude doesn't know jack. sorry if it a repost i couldn't find anything on echo mountain. but thought this should be shared.
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Jan 1 2013
4:49:34AM
that was so frustrating to watch
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Jan 1 2013
5:18:23AM
why does he not have a handle for his shovel? and did he lose his gloves?

haha its like he was taunting the guy who got buried by digging him out as slowly as possible!
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Jan 1 2013
9:59:13AM
I would probably get up and deck that guy in the face, that was hard to watch
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Jan 1 2013
10:04:49AM
That blue person took a half hour to take their pack off.
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Jan 1 2013
11:49:17AM
here, take the shovel and dig yourself out, my hands are really cold......
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Jan 1 2013
12:04:39PM
i'm pretty sure he asked the buried guy to give him his gloves..such an idiot
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Jan 1 2013
12:35:28PM
So fucking stupid... why did he take his gloves off, then try to get the gloves from the buried guy when he was trying to dig using the shovel w/ no handle...

The guy who got buried is way lucky to be alive.
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Jan 1 2013
12:44:35PM
Like zero urgency, fuck that guy is a tard.
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Jan 1 2013
12:45:36PM
This makes me mad.
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Jan 1 2013
1:05:18PM
Quoting AEROPLAEHN from Jan 1 2013 12:35:28:
The guy who got buried is way lucky to be alive.
haha yeah that would suck if that guy died because his friend was an idiot.
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Jan 1 2013
2:52:06PM
this is special, good think he was A, exposed and B. the snow wasnt a stiff wind slab. Looked like a soft storm slab to me. had it been the other way around he would have had a fuck of time shoveling like that. fucking terrifying
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Jan 1 2013
3:11:59PM
Man, the rescuer was like an archeologist. He may have been more comfortable using a brush.
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Jan 1 2013
3:35:30PM
This demonstrates exactly how not to rescue someone...

"Ill throw my gloves away and borrow the avy victims gloves"

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Jan 1 2013
3:49:31PM
the guy digs him self out at one point because the rescuer is too much of a panzy to do it.
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Jan 1 2013
3:55:52PM
That's fucked up. I would never ride with that dick bag again
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Jan 1 2013
4:10:30PM
Are you fucking serious? My heart always gets that heavy feeling when I see videos like this. This needs to be used at avy classes as a bad example. No urgency at all, casually taking his skis off... Has only his head and an arm dug out and trys to pull him out with a pole?! That's just wrong on so many levels. I'd post Nimbus' Camp BC video where Juelien Reigner had to dig out Eliel Hindert in an incredibly sketchy spot and he does an amazingly timely and efficient job of it... But I'm on mobile. Scary stuff forsure. Be safe out there.
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Jan 1 2013
4:24:30PM
8:30 what the fuck was he doing
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Jan 1 2013
4:28:33PM
Quoting *Hons*$ from Jan 1 2013 4:24:30:
8:30 what the fuck was he doing
Trying to get blood back in his hands because he chucked his gloves... And from watching it again, how do you not know where your stuff is in your pack? Seriously crazy that someone could be so clusterfucked...
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Jan 1 2013
4:30:53PM
what a doosh
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Jan 1 2013
4:35:05PM
Why did he post it? Did he think did a good job taking his sweet ass time saving his buddy. Also nice 1990s skis.
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Jan 1 2013
4:37:54PM
looks like someone doesn't give a fuck about their friends
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Jan 1 2013
4:40:49PM
Yea he is a retard, but at least he saved the guy. It could have been a lot worse
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Jan 1 2013
4:41:38PM
Better off spending that $300 on a GoPro on a snow safety course. I think the ONLY thing that was done right was to have only one skier on the slope at a time.
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Jan 1 2013
4:45:53PM
This is just so fucking frustrating to watch
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Jan 1 2013
4:46:33PM
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"I can't get these on" then proceeds to throw them at the other person
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Jan 1 2013
4:47:53PM
I like how the guy in black does not a fucking thing to help, except to say "you can see him, you don't need the beacon" and "I can't find the shovel handle."
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Jan 1 2013
4:52:17PM
did he even have the shovel handle with him?
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Jan 1 2013
5:03:48PM
Quoting 84west$ from Jan 1 2013 4:52:17:
did he even have the shovel handle with him?
No kidding. Be extra embarrassing if he forgot part of a vital piece of gear.... Trying to see if this has been posted up on TGR yet but their forums seem to be down...
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Jan 1 2013
5:42:41PM
Good thing he wasn't actually buried, that would have been scary
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Jan 1 2013
5:51:26PM
I couldn't watch past 4:30 I almost turned it off right away when he got the lady to take her beacon off and give it to him.

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Jan 3 2013
4:02:29PM
Found this video the other day.

These individuals are extremely lucky to be alive, looking at both the serious consequences of the terrain and the ability they lack too travel safely one at a time in poor visibility.


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Jan 3 2013
4:12:26PM
I felt like he wanted that guy to die. That was difficult to watch
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Jan 3 2013
4:30:20PM
I could only watch it up to 4:30. That was beyond frustrating. I just dont even know
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Jan 3 2013
4:34:48PM
Quoting YoungJah from Jan 3 2013 4:02:29:
Found this video the other day. These individuals are extremely lucky to be alive, looking at both the serious consequences of the terrain and the ability they lack too travel safely one at a time in poor visibility.
That is fantastic!
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Jan 3 2013
9:09:59PM
Quoting NinetyFour$ from Jan 1 2013 4:10:30:
Are you fucking serious? My heart always gets that heavy feeling when I see videos like this. This needs to be used at avy classes as a bad example. No urgency at all, casually taking his skis off... Has only his head and an arm dug out and trys to pull him out with a pole?! That's just wrong on so many levels. I'd post Nimbus' Camp BC video where Juelien Reigner had to dig out Eliel Hindert in an incredibly sketchy spot and he does an amazingly timely and efficient job of it... But I'm on mobile. Scary stuff forsure. Be safe out there.
The buried guy was casually talking to him the whole time. It wasn't an emergency. People who aren't exposed to high stress every day seem to believe that you function better when you freak the fuck out but it's very easy to stay calm and take your time. I also wouldn't start hacking away with a metal shovel if my buddy was safely able to breath and calmly communicate with me.

The big mistake was dropping the gloves. They could see him in the snow, he had time to take the gloves with him so he wouldn't have to try to work with a frozen metal shovel with his bare hands. Just slowed down the process in the end. The guy wasn't far away, they could have gone down one at a time in about 30 total seconds and said "oh, no big deal dude we'll get you out."

Just playing devil's advocate because this is already turning into a classic skier "I took an avy class once and in hindsight I'm a fucking champ at rescues" thread.
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Jan 3 2013
9:26:37PM
wtf, that guy almost ripped his wrist/shoulder out of socket by trying that shit with the pole. ive never taken an avy class and common sense tells me that was deffinetly not the right way to do things
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Jan 3 2013
9:30:32PM
honestly give the guy a break. like yeah he was dumb by take his gloves off and not stopping to find the handle once he knew the avy victim was okay, but in all it was just a small avalanche. at the begining he was a dumbass by going slow to get down there but once he realized the guy was head up and able to breath and okay, they were both taking there time. its not like once they knew they were alright they need to rush.
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Jan 3 2013
9:33:47PM
Quoting AEROPLAEHN from Jan 1 2013 12:35:28:
So fucking stupid... why did he take his gloves off, then try to get the gloves from the buried guy when he was trying to dig using the shovel w/ no handle... The guy who got buried is way lucky to be alive.
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Quoting stringcheese from Jan 3 2013 9:30:32:
honestly give the guy a break. like yeah he was dumb by take his gloves off and not stopping to find the handle once he knew the avy victim was okay, but in all it was just a small avalanche. at the begining he was a dumbass by going slow to get down there but once he realized the guy was head up and able to breath and okay, they were both taking there time. its not like once they knew they were alright they need to rush.
yeah it wasnt anything too major, but if I was neck deep in snow with one arm barely free I would be furious if my friends sat and watched as I shoveled myself out. The fact that the burried guy even touched the shovel is beyond me.
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Jan 3 2013
9:46:21PM
lots of uneducated opinions on here..
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Jan 3 2013
10:15:35PM
Quoting NinetyFour$ from Jan 1 2013 4:10:30:
I'd post Nimbus' Camp BC video where Juelien Reigner had to dig out Eliel Hindert in an incredibly sketchy spot and he does an amazingly timely and efficient job of it... But I'm on mobile. Scary stuff forsure. Be safe out there.
this one?

the one at around 8:10?

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Jan 3 2013
10:19:29PM
Quoting Dustin.Ultimate Bling! from Jan 3 2013 9:09:59:
The big mistake was dropping the gloves
mistake 1: told the lady to take her beacon off when buddy went for a ride.

mistake 2: where's your gloves buddy?

mistake 3: not putting your shovel together

mistake 4: shovelling snow from the top down to try to dig the guy out.

stopped watching after that but I'm sure there were many other things he did that would have made me shake my head.
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Jan 3 2013
10:26:09PM
Quoting stringcheese from Jan 3 2013 9:30:32:
at the begining he was a dumbass by going slow to get down there
it's important to not rush in an emergency like this, best thing you can do is stay calm and use your head. When you rush things you can forget key steps to take when making a rescue. however that guy did a terrible job and I would have been pissed if I was the guy who got buried, at least he didn't die though.
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Jan 3 2013
10:26:17PM
Quoting Dustin.Ultimate Bling! from Jan 3 2013 9:09:59:
The buried guy was casually talking to him the whole time. It wasn't an emergency.
Wasn't his head fully covered with snow though? All I seen was his glove or hand sticking up when the rescuer first go there. And after 5:47 when he pulls the victim's left arm out, the victim instantly goes to digging his face out. Sure he isn't burried deep, but he clearly can't breath and still has a face full of snow. And if he wouldn't have gotten raped with the shovel (assembled or un-assembled) had he dug from below the victim.

I do get where you're coming from though by playing the devils advocate. Maybe many of us would have acted similarly in the given situation. Doesn't mean it's safe or proper though. The organization of the whole thing is what really gets me though. Why didn't he have his own prepared pack, and why wasn't he equipped with a beacon? Just so many questions.

And yeah Jake that's the edit I'm talking about. I mean Reigner didn't waste any time at all getting in there and getting Eliel to a point where he could breath. Eliel was super visible in there, and regardless of that fact, he even said that he would clear an air pocket and it would just get covered back in right away. Scary stuff. Really good edit though.
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Jan 3 2013
10:42:17PM
jesus fuck, they did absolutely every thing wrong. this shit should be showcased at level 1's as "what not to do". it made me nasiated watching such unprepared, clueless people.
this should definitely be a learning lesson to us all....
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Jan 3 2013
10:56:32PM
I will stick to skiing where i dont have to worry about avalanches thank you very much
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Jan 3 2013
10:58:04PM
why doesnt the guy have his own beacon? i cant believe no one has mentioned that. he shouldnt have to ask someone else for their beacon.

if he was the one buried, even a foot under the surface, it would of been like finding a needle in a haystack to get lucky and probe strike him.




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Jan 3 2013
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I don't know much about avy safety, being from jersey... But after it stopped moving shouldn't they have gotten down there instead of standing up their and doing nothing. Like area is safe, now it's rescue time?
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Jan 3 2013
11:51:37PM
Quoting liftedresearch… from Jan 3 2013 10:58:04:
why doesnt the guy have his own beacon? i cant believe no one has mentioned that. he shouldnt have to ask someone else for their beacon. if he was the one buried, even a foot under the surface, it would of been like finding a needle in a haystack to get lucky and probe strike him.
This, and why didn't he have his own pack with his own shovel where he knew where the handle was.

Also, before the emergency was de-escalated why did the lady in blue take forever to get her shit at the ready, shouldn't it be 1 person searching with beacon, next person is getting their own probe ready and everybody else should have their shovels ready to go.
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Quoting Rusticles from Jan 3 2013 11:51:37:
This, and why didn't he have his own pack with his own shovel where he knew where the handle was. Also, before the emergency was de-escalated why did the lady in blue take forever to get her shit at the ready, shouldn't it be 1 person searching with beacon, next person is getting their own probe ready and everybody else should have their shovels ready to go.
If the skier was completely buried and wasn't visible, then everyone with a beacon would have to turn theirs to search and work in a pattern depending how many people there is. Then they would all have to probe 'on a line' doing a search for the skier, then dig the skier out once located. There's more to it then that but that's my understanding of it at the basics of it.

Not sure why he was getting the beacon though? Maybe in the event of a secondary slide? Still weird that he needed her pack, her beacon, and then no one could find a shovel handle...

Ha, so many questions! They'll all never be answered though.
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