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Subject: How can I get the highest possible quality out of my video?

Sleepercell
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Aug 12 2012
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I have been messing around with my t2i for the passed 6 months or so and I have been able to get high resolution video but I am wondering how I can get my video to be this high quality?

Salton Sea Beach from Philip Bloom on Vimeo.

I have also noticed that after I have put a clip into final cut the clip degrades a little in quality is there a way to prevent that?

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Aug 13 2012
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Aug 13 2012
12:06:52AM

- Use a different picture style.
- Get better lenses (Zeiss)

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting TijmenDal$ from Aug 13 2012 12:06:52:
- Use a different picture style. - Get better lenses (Zeiss)

I already have a cine picture style along with a few others. So that's marked off the list. Now the zeiss lens, I may get a cz.2 70-200 for my graduation gift next year, since I am in need of a telle lens.

Other than lenses what can I be doing to improve or preserve the movie quality when shooting and in post. I notice that when I export some quality is sometimes lost from the original clip that came strait off the camera.

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting Sleepercell from Aug 13 2012 12:42:57:
I may get a cz.2 70-200 for my graduation gift next year

Holy fuck seriously?

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Aug 13 2012
1:27:03AM

Double post, but if you're serious enough about video to get a $20,000 lens why would you ask a skiing forum for advice on how to use your camera?

At any rate here's my suggestion to the original topic.

-Stop down already sharp glass
-Play with picture profiles
-Don't grade too heavily
-Lots of light

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting Sleepercell from Aug 13 2012 12:42:57:
I already have a cine picture style along with a few others. So that's marked off the list. Now the zeiss lens, I may get a cz.2 70-200 for my graduation gift next year, since I am in need of a telle lens. Other than lenses what can I be doing to improve or preserve the movie quality when shooting and in post. I notice that when I export some quality is sometimes lost from the original clip that came strait off the camera.

that's so sick man!
shooting perfect exposure and focus and everything will help. colour correcting in post will help. colour grading will help. using the right render settings will help a lot if it seems like you're losing a lot of quality after rendering. i can't tell you good render settings since you're on fcp and i only use premiere.
but using better lenses will probably be the best improvement depending on what lenses you're using now.

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting .Max. from Aug 13 2012 1:20:47:
Holy fuck seriously?

Hahaha, no im not getting that telle lense. I'm saving up for a 70-200mm L lens, and may be able to get some sort of zeiss prime for my graduation, but I would probably have to chip in some of my money also.

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Aug 13 2012
2:38:07AM

+k to bothe of you though.

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Aug 13 2012
4:41:06AM

Quoting Sleepercell from Aug 13 2012 2:09:56:
Hahaha, no im not getting that telle lense. I'm saving up for a 70-200mm L lens, and may be able to get some sort of zeiss prime for my graduation, but I would probably have to chip in some of my money also.

selling my 50mm zeiss for 600 shipped..

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting ehv

from Aug 13 2012 4:41:06:
selling my 50mm zeiss for 600 shipped..

Or just buy a C/Y mount for 300$. Not trying to break your deal, but kids on here shouldn't get the ZF version. Just sell it on fredmiranda or ebay.

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting Sleepercell from Aug 13 2012 12:42:57:
I already have a cine picture style

This is a good way to degrade your image.

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting Pandysloo from Aug 13 2012 12:20:33:
This is a good way to degrade your image.

it'd be nice if you follow'd that up with an explanation why, I'm curious because I've heard lots of mixed thoughts

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Aug 13 2012
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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting SourSteezle$ from Aug 13 2012 2:41:55:
it'd be nice if you follow'd that up with an explanation why, I'm curious because I've heard lots of mixed thoughts

video on dslr'ss is comprised, not raw, so it can't be pushed as far in post. gh2 is better than the canons, but still nowhere near the flexibility of something that shoots true raw video. Because of this, it is best to do as little grading as possible, and to try and get a good image directly out of the camera. That way you can do a little tweaking (if needed), and get the same "style look" but with much better quality (no banding or artifacts etc.)

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting TijmenDal$ from Aug 13 2012 11:43:00:
Or just buy a C/Y mount for 300$. Not trying to break your deal, but kids on here shouldn't get the ZF version. Just sell it on fredmiranda or ebay.

The c/ys are not the same, much older and aren't as legit as cp2s (as the zf/ze series is)

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting SourSteezle$ from Aug 13 2012 2:41:55:
it'd be nice if you follow'd that up with an explanation why, I'm curious because I've heard lots of mixed thoughts

Kind of said before, when you're shooting with a low bit rate codec (ie h264 canon, avchd pani/sony) its better to be able to do the least amount of grading as possible. tweaking picture profiles/picture styles mixed with minor grading is the best way to go, shooting flat is good but if you dont want your final image to look "flat" (aka stept stuff, they shoot flat but keep their image flat overall) you're gonna have to do a ton of grading and your image will degrade.

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Aug 13 2012
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Quoting SourSteezle$ from Aug 13 2012 2:41:55:
it'd be nice if you follow'd that up with an explanation why, I'm curious because I've heard lots of mixed thoughts

Cinestyle is beneficial if you are in extremely controlled lighting conditions, and even then you have to be extremely conservative in post. Using cinestyle to "increase latitude" for everyday shooting only damages your image because you have to push/pull the image to get the correct levels instead of implementing it externally (lighting). This causes noise, banding, and chroma clipping.

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