Rossignol FKS 180 overpricing or not? - Gear Talk

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Jun 28 2012
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do you really need a 18 din?

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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting Elg$ from Jun 28 2012 5:09:50:
do you really need a 18 din?

i dont want to buy them im just woundering why people like this binding so much

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Jun 28 2012
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turn table heel, and yea $400 is too much, but they will last forever.

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Jun 28 2012
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bombproof

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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting Static from Jun 28 2012 5:19:19:
turn table heel, and yea $400 is too much, but they will last forever.

Whats so special about turn table?

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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting Elg$ from Jun 28 2012 5:09:50:
do you really need a 18 din?

Since when did people ski around with their dins maxed out all the time? Your supposed to ski a binding in the middle of the din range, with an fks 180 it would be 13, which is a manageable setting that I ski on a lot

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Jun 28 2012
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The good thing is there's always discounts on these, I would never pay 400$ for them, but they're often discounted to 200$

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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting Noha from Jun 28 2012 5:22:08:
Whats so special about turn table?

Turntable heels are consistent, rarely release when they're not supposed to and less damaging to knees. FKS180s are also metal, hence bombproof, hence last forever. $400 is too high, but you'll have a pair for many years.

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Jun 28 2012
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I would save 100 dollars and just go with the fks 140. I have had two sets and never had any problems. The only difference between the 180 and 140 is that the 180 has a metal toe.

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Jun 28 2012
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FKS are the exact same binding as the Rossi Races (black and gold ones), just $150 more and painted orange...

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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting JaphyRyder from Jun 28 2012 6:21:24:
FKS are the exact same binding as the Rossi Races (black and gold ones), just $150 more and painted orange...

With a completely different din and brake size.

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Jun 28 2012
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Albeit I use the 14 din, but I (and a lot of others) swear by this binding. I can't think of a time off of the top of my head when I released when I didn't absolutely need to. I trust turntables far more than any other binding (way more than marker and wayyyyy more than Salomon and Tyrolia).

I wouldn't say they're bomber just in that I always seem to fuck up the breaks but I don't really rip turntable bindings out of my skis like I have with other brands, namely Marker.

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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting Alex.B from Jun 28 2012 5:54:44:
I would save 100 dollars and just go with the fks 140. I have had two sets and never had any problems. The only difference between the 180 and 140 is that the 180 has a metal toe.

Everyone always says that they're FKS's are super durable but mine were terrible as far as durability goes. I'm not a big guy either, only weigh 145. This year i destroyed the brakes on mine, and pretty much exploded the heel piece...twice. The first time the white tab fell off, and the brake plate thing fell off, I could just lift my heel up and they'd release. After getting them warrantied once I snapped the metal right in half where the legs connect to the metal plate. Currently they are at Rossi's HQ being warrantied a second time.

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Jun 28 2012
6:51:29PM

Quoting Crispy.$ from Jun 28 2012 6:43:02:
Everyone always says that they're FKS's are super durable but mine were terrible as far as durability goes. I'm not a big guy either, only weigh 145. This year i destroyed the brakes on mine, and pretty much exploded the heel piece...twice. The first time the white tab fell off, and the brake plate thing fell off, I could just lift my heel up and they'd release. After getting them warrantied once I snapped the metal right in half where the legs connect to the metal plate. Currently they are at Rossi's HQ being warrantied a second time.

weird how everyone else on the internet says they are durable but you, only weighing 145 lbs, break multiple pairs.... must be everyone else doing something wrong.

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Jun 28 2012
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I'm pushing 200 pounds and haven't broken anything on mine. I'm not sure how that kid did more work than me.

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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting Static from Jun 28 2012 6:51:29:
weird how everyone else on the internet says they are durable but you, only weighing 145 lbs, break multiple pairs.... must be everyone else doing something wrong.

they're not indestructible, but are significantly more durable than a standard retail binding. the few plastic parts on them are prone to breaking such as the crescent disk in the heel as well as those little plastic stops where the arms attach to the heel dildo. and brakes can snap on every ski, but FKS are a much bigger hassle to replace. for most bombproof binding i'd have to go with the old 916s and 920s (what's now called the STH16 STEEL).

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Jun 28 2012
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I weigh 270 and they are perfect for me, bombproof.

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Jun 28 2012
8:21:24PM

If you pay retail they're expensive. But if you're worthy of an 18 DIN binding, you should have enough contacts/hookups/whatever to be paying significantly less than retail. All of a sudden they don't cost much more than a Jester, and it's a total no-brainer which one to buy then.

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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting Crispy.$ from Jun 28 2012 6:43:02:
Everyone always says that they're FKS's are super durable but mine were terrible as far as durability goes. I'm not a big guy either, only weigh 145. This year i destroyed the brakes on mine, and pretty much exploded the heel piece...twice. The first time the white tab fell off, and the brake plate thing fell off, I could just lift my heel up and they'd release. After getting them warrantied once I snapped the metal right in half where the legs connect to the metal plate. Currently they are at Rossi's HQ being warrantied a second time.

very first day i rode my fks's, one of the brakes bent forward, so i had to bend it back. Never really had any other problems with em other than that but they really need to stop making aluminum brakes and use steel or something cause it's too soft of a metal.

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Jun 29 2012
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Quoting BuddyLite from Jun 28 2012 10:20:43:
very first day i rode my fks's, one of the brakes bent forward, so i had to bend it back. Never really had any other problems with em other than that but they really need to stop making aluminum brakes and use steel or something cause it's too soft of a metal.

Im probably wrong on this but isn't steel a lot not brittle so it would snap rather than bend?

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Jun 29 2012
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Quoting Crispy.$ from Jun 28 2012 6:43:02:
Everyone always says that they're FKS's are super durable but mine were terrible as far as durability goes. I'm not a big guy either, only weigh 145. This year i destroyed the brakes on mine, and pretty much exploded the heel piece...twice. The first time the white tab fell off, and the brake plate thing fell off, I could just lift my heel up and they'd release. After getting them warrantied once I snapped the metal right in half where the legs connect to the metal plate. Currently they are at Rossi's HQ being warrantied a second time.

dang! i weight 180 pounds and put 83 days on them and only once did I have break issue it was pre season and i just bent it back. Was your forward pressure set correctly? because I have had to help a ton of friends with their forward pressure. If you set your ski on the ground and put your boot in the binding with out your foot in there, hold the ski down and pull up on the boot and if the heel piece moves at all you can tighten down the forward pressure a bit until it no longer moves. ( This is what I do so i'm not sure if it is 100% correct)

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Jun 29 2012
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Quoting TravelsTI from Jun 28 2012 8:10:06:
I weigh 270 and they are perfect for me, bombproof.

thats a big boy

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Jun 29 2012
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Quoting TravelsTI from Jun 28 2012 8:10:06:
I weigh 270 and they are perfect for me, bombproof.

Jesus Christ.....

So while this thread is up here, thoughts on the pivot-14/fks140 VS. pivot1-18/fks180. I only weigh about 135 and am looking to buy new bindings at some point. Mechanically and construction wise is there any difference between the two besides softer springs?

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Jun 29 2012
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Quoting NinetyFour$ from Jun 29 2012 10:54:53:
Jesus Christ..... So while this thread is up here, thoughts on the pivot-14/fks140 VS. pivot1-18/fks180. I only weigh about 135 and am looking to buy new bindings at some point. Mechanically and construction wise is there any difference between the two besides softer springs?

18 has the metal toe piece. get the 14s save your self 100$

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Jun 30 2012
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Mobile so i'll try not to screw this up.... The 18 has a one-piece metal toe that pivots around a cammed lobe. This gives a full 180 degree release as the toe can rotate in any direction to let you out. The 14 Din binding uses a plastic toe where the main housing is fixed with a traditional toe wing design where the toe "splits" to release you. Hence they don't do a vertical toe release, but are still a very good toe. The heel is the same apart from the metal housing on the 18. The very upper pice of both heels, which is more cosmetic than anything, is plastic on both.

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Jun 30 2012
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Quoting NinetyFour$ from Jun 29 2012 10:54:53:
Jesus Christ..... So while this thread is up here, thoughts on the pivot-14/fks140 VS. pivot1-18/fks180. I only weigh about 135 and am looking to buy new bindings at some point. Mechanically and construction wise is there any difference between the two besides softer springs?

If you're 135 chances are you're still growing, get yourself a binding that can adjust

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Jun 30 2012
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Quoting Static from Jun 28 2012 6:51:29:
weird how everyone else on the internet says they are durable but you, only weighing 145 lbs, break multiple pairs.... must be everyone else doing something wrong.

Weird how you're not contributing to this thread at all. I posted my experience with them and you have to come in here and hate. If you're gonna reply to my post maybe give tips or reasons why I break them.

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Jun 30 2012
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Quoting Ryanvdonk$$ from Jun 28 2012 7:59:13:
they're not indestructible, but are significantly more durable than a standard retail binding. the few plastic parts on them are prone to breaking such as the crescent disk in the heel as well as those little plastic stops where the arms attach to the heel dildo. and brakes can snap on every ski, but FKS are a much bigger hassle to replace. for most bombproof binding i'd have to go with the old 916s and 920s (what's now called the STH16 STEEL).

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Jun 30 2012
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FKS are the best bindings out there right now. 180's might be a little much though. They last for a super long time so you can find a pair of older 120's on race skis for cheap if you go to a ski swap.

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Jun 30 2012
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FKS are the best bindings out there right now. 180's might be a little much though. They last for a super long time so you can find a pair of older 120's on race skis for cheap if you go to a ski swap.

So you would recommend old 120's over newer 140's for a smaller guy like me? Who know's maybe I'll just buy another pair of STH 14 Drivers, bindings work fine for me.

And to the guy's talking about the 916's, pretty sure I was reading some pro's setups and a few of them still list these as the bindings their using. Pretty incredible IMO.

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Jul 1 2012
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Quoting Static from Jun 28 2012 6:51:29:
weird how everyone else on the internet says they are durable but you, only weighing 145 lbs, break multiple pairs.... must be everyone else doing something wrong.

Just because he is realistic in his evaluation of his experience with the binding does not make him wrong. They have a cult following and are therefore more prone to fanboys not wanting to say anything bad about them. This is normal, but the fact is I've seen just as many "FKS Broken, Need Help!" threads as there are "Griffons Suck, Need Help" threads.

Having said this, both are common bindings for freeskiing nowadays so with more people owning them, there will be more cases of things going wrong regardless of which binding is superior.

Also, I don't know where people get the idea that it actually protects the knees that much more because I think that is mainly a rumor that has been perpetuated on this site.

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Jul 1 2012
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Quoting ZenMaster from Jul 1 2012 2:14:13:
Just because he is realistic in his evaluation of his experience with the binding does not make him wrong. They have a cult following and are therefore more prone to fanboys not wanting to say anything bad about them. This is normal, but the fact is I've seen just as many "FKS Broken, Need Help!" threads as there are "Griffons Suck, Need Help" threads. Having said this, both are common bindings for freeskiing nowadays so with more people owning them, there will be more cases of things going wrong regardless of which binding is superior. Also, I don't know where people get the idea that it actually protects the knees that much more because I think that is mainly a rumor that has been perpetuated on this site.

LOL, you obviously know nothing about bindings.

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Jul 1 2012
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Quoting RyandaGod from Jul 1 2012 2:16:01:
LOL, you obviously know nothing about bindings.

Explain yourself like an adult please. Otherwise go troll somewhere else and masturbate to overpriced clothing. This is Geartalk, keep that shit out of here.

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Jul 1 2012
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Quoting ZenMaster from Jul 1 2012 2:17:36:
Explain yourself like an adult please. Otherwise go troll somewhere else and masturbate to overpriced clothing. This is Geartalk, keep that shit out of here.

what shit? I work at a shop, and you have no idea what you're talking about. The release of the heelpiece on the fks is more elastic compared to any other binding, and the heel releases side to side, unlike the heel piece of say the griffon or jester. Not to mention the consistency of the binding is by far the best, meaning it will release when it should, and not prematurely, much like other said bindings. This is why it "saves legs." Not to mention the FKS goes back further on the indemnifiable list then any other binding. But yeah keep talking about things you know nothing about, like I said....

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Jul 1 2012
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Quoting RyandaGod from Jul 1 2012 2:46:00:
what shit? I work at a shop, and you have no idea what you're talking about. The release of the heelpiece on the fks is more elastic compared to any other binding, and the heel releases side to side, unlike the heel piece of say the griffon or jester. Not to mention the consistency of the binding is by far the best, meaning it will release when it should, and not prematurely, much like other said bindings. This is why it "saves legs." Not to mention the FKS goes back further on the indemnifiable list then any other binding. But yeah keep talking about things you know nothing about, like I said....

If you read my post, I never refuted that it was a good binding. I merely stated that it has it's problems just like other bindings and is not "invincible". I agree it releases and retains more consistently than other bindings due to the elastic travel, but once again I don't think that means it necessarily protects knees better than a regular heel piece. It just performs better.

On a side note, there are plenty of idiots who work at ski shops, so that's not really a credible source for me to believe you know so much more than me.

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Jul 1 2012
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The heel doesn't release sideways. Seriously, put a boot in some and try to kick the heel out. The bars that hold the dildo are in the way.The turntable just means that when you come out of the toe with the heel loaded i.e. backwards twisting fall, the heel should allow your leg to pivot around the axis, approximately, of your tibia.

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Quoting ZenMaster from Jul 1 2012 2:14:13:
Just because he is realistic in his evaluation of his experience with the binding does not make him wrong. They have a cult following and are therefore more prone to fanboys not wanting to say anything bad about them. This is normal, but the fact is I've seen just as many "FKS Broken, Need Help!" threads as there are "Griffons Suck, Need Help" threads.

Thank you.

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Jul 1 2012
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Quoting Crispy.$ from Jul 1 2012 10:12:37:
Thank you.

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Quoting Static from Jul 1 2012 10:21:32:
now kiss

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Quoting Crispy.$ from Jul 1 2012 10:24:16:

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