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ethanfoster
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Jun 25 2012
6:00:49PM
I am looking to get new car in the fall, right now i have a single cab half ton truck which is a terrible winter car, im try to decide betweena sation wagon or a big suv, what would you guys say?
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Jun 25 2012
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Disagree. Long wheel base and 2wd at most times can be very dangerous in snow. I think an awd suv or outback type car is better for snowy conditions. My 2008 gmc Denali xlt has gotten me through everything but I would not get one of those cause all the gauges and ac and shit stop working
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Jun 25 2012
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even if its 4wd there is no weight in the back so the tires will just spin. trucks are no bueno in the snow.
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skiception
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Most trucks I know of are mainly 2wd but you can switch to 4wd but the downfall is that in 4wd the top speed is like 20mph
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Jun 25 2012
6:37:16PM
Quoting Flying~Squirrel$ from Jun 25 2012 6:30:26:
even if its 4wd there is no weight in the back so the tires will just spin. trucks are no bueno in the snow.
you could always sand bag it and what not.



but I really like my impreza in the snow...
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way cheaper
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Jun 25 2012
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this thread went stupid real fast.


2010+ Subaru Outback

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skiception
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Jun 25 2012
6:41:53PM
Quoting freeskibum82 from Jun 25 2012 6:39:26:
this thread went stupid real fast. 2010+ Subaru Outback /thread
I was thinking he wanted lots of space when he said big truck or suv. If you're just hauling 1-4 people an outback or impress will be the best choice. Just get a Thule or rack
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Jun 25 2012
6:47:11PM
Quoting Flying~Squirrel$ from Jun 25 2012 6:30:26:
trucks are no bueno in the snow.
I beg to differ, a truck in 4wd with proper tires will do fine. I find it the perfect ski vehicle for the reasons TWA stated.


a good suv is a 4-runner, they will never die and run strongly. you get lots of room, and 4wd.


to the idiot who said trucks cant go over 20mph in 4wd, that is completely false. you can go however fast you want in 4wd.

I would never buy an AWD vehicle, I hate how you can feel the front tires griping in every turn.
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Jun 25 2012
7:01:21PM
subaru or audi.
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skiception
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Jun 25 2012
7:05:34PM
Quoting .RYAN66$ from Jun 25 2012 6:47:11:
I beg to differ, a truck in 4wd with proper tires will do fine. I find it the perfect ski vehicle for the reasons TWA stated. a good suv is a 4-runner, they will never die and run strongly. you get lots of room, and 4wd. to the idiot who said trucks cant go over 20mph in 4wd, that is completely false. you can go however fast you want in 4wd. I would never buy an AWD vehicle, I hate how you can feel the front tires griping in every turn.
20 mph is just a benchmark I've always used, when your in 4wd you have no central differential and it can cause problems
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Jun 25 2012
7:09:55PM
Subaru Forester with the largest THULE ski rack.  Get the fuck out of here if you disagree.  Get at me if you need more details.
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Jun 25 2012
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honestly, i had an '01 honda crv for a few years and never got stuck. i drove it through 2 feet of snow to almost a foot of mud. only accident i was ever in was going down a hill in the winter and tried to stop on a sheet of ice and slid into a telephone pole, only damaged the bumper. its a pretty solid vehicle
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Jun 25 2012
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Quoting the.nile from Jun 25 2012 7:10:00:
honestly, i had an '01 honda crv for a few years and never got stuck. i drove it through 2 feet of snow to almost a foot of mud. only accident i was ever in was going down a hill in the winter and tried to stop on a sheet of ice and slid into a telephone pole, only damaged the bumper. its a pretty solid vehicle
also it is roomy as hell in there
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Jun 25 2012
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I have an '08 4runner that's pretty boss in the snow. I'm not to crazy about the look of the newer models though.
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Jun 25 2012
7:22:26PM
I Have a 4 door Jeep wrangler sahara, Ive tried to get it stuck and I haven't yet. In the winter with the hardtop you can put a thule 300 on it to hold skis. great vehicle and very easy to repair
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Jun 25 2012
7:24:02PM
Quoting skiception from Jun 25 2012 6:36:18:
Most trucks I know of are mainly 2wd but you can switch to 4wd but the downfall is that in 4wd the top speed is like 20mph
your on crack my truck easily goes 55 in 4wd. dude for real get a new truck you wont regret it. i just got an 03 chevy avalanche and it is a boss truck.
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Jun 25 2012
7:36:09PM
Quoting skiception from Jun 25 2012 7:05:34:
20 mph is just a benchmark I've always used, when your in 4wd you have no central differential and it can cause problems
your an idiot.
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rozboon
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Jun 25 2012
8:18:11PM

It depends on the 4wd system. Trucks like, for example, a pre '96 4Runner only have a transfer case for the 4WD system, with no centre differential, so if you drive them on surfaces that aren't reasonably slippery and go around corners it can't differentiate the speed of the front and rear wheels and it will bind and buck and be a general asshole of a thing.

Most newer 4WD systems have the transfer case feeding a centre differential so this isn't really a problem. If you have locking hubs etc then the same issues apply with not being able to handle different wheel speed at each corner of the car.

I have 2 ski vehicles... a '92 4Runner (actually a Surf) which is great because I can just throw everything in and it's beat to shit so if someone dents it in the carpark, no big deal. The other is a 2001 Impreza STI, Subaru's AWD system is pretty damn good in the snow, I've never had to put chains on it.

I dunno if you get them in the states but the Toyota Landcruiser VX Limited is roomy, tough as hell and should go for about 400k miles without issues.

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ethanfoster
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Jun 25 2012
8:18:12PM

any truck ive seen that has a decent body has ridiculas miles, and i spent a ton of money on gas last season so im hoping for something smaller so i gues the big suv is out

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skiception
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Jun 25 2012
8:19:55PM
Quoting rozboon from Jun 25 2012 8:18:11:
It depends on the 4wd system. Trucks like, for example, a pre '96 4Runner only have a transfer case for the 4WD system, with no centre differential, so if you drive them on surfaces that aren't reasonably slippery and go around corners it can't differentiate the speed of the front and rear wheels and it will bind and buck and be a general asshole of a thing. Most newer 4WD systems have the transfer case feeding a centre differential so this isn't really a problem. If you have locking hubs etc then the same issues apply with not being able to handle different wheel speed at each corner of the car. I have 2 ski vehicles... a '92 4Runner (actually a Surf) which is great because I can just throw everything in and it's beat to shit so if someone dents it in the carpark, no big deal. The other is a 2001 Impreza STI, Subaru's AWD system is pretty damn good in the snow, I've never had to put chains on it. I dunno if you get them in the states but the Toyota Landcruiser VX Limited is roomy, tough as hell and should go for about 400k miles without issues.
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skiception
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Jun 25 2012
8:21:11PM
Quoting ethanfoster from Jun 25 2012 8:18:12:
any truck ive seen that has a decent body has ridiculas miles, and i spent a ton of money on gas last season so im hoping for something smaller so i gues the big suv is out
So you're set on a truck? I don't see why you wouldn't get a Subaru out back and stick a Thule on it. It has less space but much better gas mileage and it will be better in the snow + subarus last forever
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Jun 25 2012
8:55:56PM
Quoting ethanfoster from Jun 25 2012 8:18:12:
any truck ive seen that has a decent body has ridiculas miles, and i spent a ton of money on gas last season so im hoping for something smaller so i gues the big suv is out
Why not get the only small SUV with *no rollover rating* like the Subaru Forester.  It's built on a sedan (Impreza) floor pan, and has tons of room.  With a THULE on deck, you would be unstoppable.  AWD, limited slip differentials, good ground clearance.  You can't go wrong.
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Jun 25 2012
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Quoting .RYAN66$ from Jun 25 2012 7:36:09:
your an idiot.
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TheDers$
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Jun 25 2012
9:11:07PM
if you want a truck just go on craigslist and be patient the right one will show up my truck only cost 10k and had 90,000 miles on it. spend the extra $350 and put a throttle body spacer and a cold air intake on it and it will run smooth for a long time and you will get great gas mileage. My truck is lifted and is on 35's but i get 17-18 mpg in the city and about 22-23 on the highway
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Jun 25 2012
9:12:38PM
i have a mazda tribute and it mobs through the snow. its AWD but i give its credit to the tires, theyre real beefy. most 4wd cars will do well as long as you dont cheap out and dont put good tires on it
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Jun 25 2012
9:14:06PM
Quoting GILLSKI from Jun 25 2012 7:22:26:
I Have a 4 door Jeep wrangler sahara, Ive tried to get it stuck and I haven't yet. In the winter with the hardtop you can put a thule 300 on it to hold skis. great vehicle and very easy to repair
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Jun 25 2012
9:24:56PM
Quoting Billek from Jun 25 2012 7:09:55:
Subaru Forester with the largest THULE ski rack.  Get the fuck out of here if you disagree.  Get at me if you need more details.
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Jun 25 2012
11:42:23PM
Quoting Billek from Jun 25 2012 7:09:55:
Subaru Forester with the largest THULE ski rack.  Get the fuck out of here if you disagree.  Get at me if you need more details.
Fuck no. I had that exact set up, now I have a truck and I would NEVER go back.

As for 4WD, well there are plenty of people who don't need it. A truck is not useless without 4WD. A skier however, is not one of those people. Get a 4WD truck, good tires and you are set. No racks, no getting stuck, cheap parts, easy to work on. Subaru forester is basically opposite (I had an older one to be fair)

And to the guy who said you gotta keep it under 20mph in 4wd if you have a transfer case. You gotta keep it in 2wd whenever the roads are dry. Speed isn't really a factor. If you drive your truck around in 4WD on dry pavement you are gonna get wound up. Probably would would actually happen faster going slow because you can make sharper turns. Just keep it in 2WD unless you are in deep snow or mud and need it. Better than AWD which is always there when you don't really need it, and then when you are in a situation where you need 4WD, it's not as good.
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Quoting Flying~Squirrel$ from Jun 25 2012 6:30:26:
even if its 4wd there is no weight in the back so the tires will just spin. trucks are no bueno in the snow.
then you cant drive worth a shit ....
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big fan of my subaru wagon.  4wd, plenty of room for gear, and excellent gas mileage...can't ask for too much more.
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suv all the way
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skiception
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Jun 26 2012
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Quoting montanan from Jun 25 2012 11:56:08:
then you cant drive worth a shit ....
When you're truck isn't in 4wd good luck driving it in the snow haha but it s very fun and 4wd in a truck works just fine in snow I just feel better with an awd subaru or suv
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.lloydchristmas
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Quoting montanan from Jun 25 2012 11:56:08:
then you cant drive worth a shit ....
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skiception
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Quoting .lloydchristmas from Jun 26 2012 2:13:40:
this
You're 15 and can't drive...
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Quoting skiception from Jun 26 2012 2:23:19:
You're 15 and can't drive...
I'm 16 i bet i drive better than you
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Quoting .lloydchristmas from Jun 26 2012 2:26:13:
I'm 16 i bet i drive better than you
Lol Ive been racing since I was ten and took up rally last year... Good luck
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Jun 26 2012
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Quoting skiception from Jun 26 2012 2:28:46:
Lol Ive been racing since I was ten and took up rally last year... Good luck
you're cool. i bet that's gona help you when you're driving in snow. and i call bullshit. pics or it didnt happen
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Pm me your email
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Jun 26 2012
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get a truck brah, 12-16 mpg at 4.00 per gallon is nothin. plus u will look wayyyyyyy badass in a truck, and you can haul more shit than people and you will have lots of friends because when people move you will be the first one they call!
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Jun 26 2012
2:44:43AM
Quoting .lloydchristmas from Jun 26 2012 2:33:56:
you're cool. i bet that's gona help you when you're driving in snow. and i call bullshit. pics or it didnt happen

You kinda hack me off eh. You're like 16, you act like you're some shit hot gods gift to everything when it's quite obvious that this is not the truth. Obviously in this case you've probably been driving for a maximum of about 6 months and chances are, despite what you think, you're not very good at it. Even your comments display that really, you're pretty ignorant in these matters.

Race driving teaches things like threshold braking and how to handle things like understeer and oversteer, should they occur... both of which cars can be prone to in snow. And driving fast on gravel (rally driving) is actually a pretty good analog for driving slowly on snow.

In a grander sense, you talk a lot of shit on gear that I'm 99% sure you've never tried. You also tend to talk about it like you're some big mountain charger who weighs 190 and makes Seth Morrison look like a pussy. I've watched your 'edits' if we're going to call them that and I was pretty gentle when I commented about them previously. Some of them are pretty damn gapish, let's be honest. I think the biggest trick you throw in any of them is a sketchy 180 off a windlip.

There's a lot of people out there who are a lot better at a lot of things than you are. And the faster you realise that, the faster people will stop thinking you're a gigantic spanner.

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Quoting rozboon from Jun 26 2012 2:44:43:
You kinda hack me off eh. You're like 16, you act like you're some shit hot gods gift to everything when it's quite obvious that this is not the truth. Obviously in this case you've probably been driving for a maximum of about 6 months and chances are, despite what you think, you're not very good at it. Even your comments display that really, you're pretty ignorant in these matters. Race driving teaches things like threshold braking and how to handle things like understeer and oversteer, should they occur... both of which cars can be prone to in snow. And driving fast on gravel (rally driving) is actually a pretty good analog for driving slowly on snow. In a grander sense, you talk a lot of shit on gear that I'm 99% sure you've never tried. You also tend to talk about it like you're some big mountain charger who weighs 190 and makes Seth Morrison look like a pussy. I've watched your 'edits' if we're going to call them that and I was pretty gentle when I commented about them previously. Some of them are pretty damn gapish, let's be honest. I think the biggest trick you throw in any of them is a sketchy 180 off a windlip. There's a lot of people out there who are a lot better at a lot of things than you are. And the faster you realise that, the faster people will stop thinking you're a gigantic spanner.
Last time I talked to him he was 15 soooo... And he's 6 foot and skis 179 hellbents but yea I've loved rally because you never know exactly what's gonna happen on whatever type of surface you are on, ive mainly learned how to move the car through corners and use its weight to get you there. Unlike all types of racing on asphalt in rally you break once you start turning idk I have a ton of fun with it
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Jun 26 2012
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Quoting .lloydchristmas from Jun 26 2012 2:26:13:
I'm 16 i bet i drive better than you
Nope.


And I've enjoyed driving a 2004 outback in the snow. In my experience, old (mid 90s) 4runners are awful snow cars.
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Quoting rozboon from Jun 26 2012 2:44:43:
You kinda hack me off eh. You're like 16, you act like you're some shit hot gods gift to everything when it's quite obvious that this is not the truth. Obviously in this case you've probably been driving for a maximum of about 6 months and chances are, despite what you think, you're not very good at it. Even your comments display that really, you're pretty ignorant in these matters. Race driving teaches things like threshold braking and how to handle things like understeer and oversteer, should they occur... both of which cars can be prone to in snow. And driving fast on gravel (rally driving) is actually a pretty good analog for driving slowly on snow. In a grander sense, you talk a lot of shit on gear that I'm 99% sure you've never tried. You also tend to talk about it like you're some big mountain charger who weighs 190 and makes Seth Morrison look like a pussy. I've watched your 'edits' if we're going to call them that and I was pretty gentle when I commented about them previously. Some of them are pretty damn gapish, let's be honest. I think the biggest trick you throw in any of them is a sketchy 180 off a windlip. There's a lot of people out there who are a lot better at a lot of things than you are. And the faster you realise that, the faster people will stop thinking you're a gigantic spanner.
bro why are you alwaya picking on me for same shit. i bet it makes you feel real good. in just sharing my opinion when you have no idea who i am and what my gear experience is
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Quoting eKrieg$ from Jun 26 2012 2:54:40:
Nope. And I've enjoyed driving a 2004 outback in the snow. In my experience, old (mid 90s) 4runners are awful snow cars.
hes probably 16 too.
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Jun 26 2012
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As long as you have sandbags then a truck will work great. I have a Ford Ranger 4x4 and it works great in the snow
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Jun 26 2012
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Quoting .lloydchristmas from Jun 26 2012 3:03:51:
hes probably 16 too.
Lol at calling aKrieg 16
I ski for Sarah
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Quoting skiception from Jun 26 2012 3:07:48:
Lol at calling aKrieg 16
nope. hes 18 (i think) he went to my school. im calling you 16
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Quoting .lloydchristmas from Jun 26 2012 3:10:32:
nope. hes 18 (i think) he went to my school. im calling you 16
Lol I am also 18
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Quoting skiception from Jun 26 2012 3:15:03:
Lol I am also 18
ok fair enough
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