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Quoting AdamHoleman from Jun 24 2012 10:59:06PM:
Hey guys, so I'm a 6 ft 175 lb teenager who's been skiing since the age of two. I got in to powder freestyle skiing four years ago when I bought a pair of Armada JJs (175 cm). These skis have brought my skiing to a whole new level but I'm starting to suspect they're a little too short as well as being pretty beaten up. So I have two questions: 1: Skis are expensive. My JJ's are still skiable but they're beaten up and starting to get more squirrely the bigger and better I get, due to the short length. Is this enough of a reason to justify buying a new pair? 2: If I do decide to drop some money on new skis, I want to get the perfect pair for my style. I'm looking for something a little more stable (maybe slightly stiffer than the JJs?) that can handle big drops but can still spin easy (cork 7s, double flips, etc...). I'm thinking something like the Moment Deathwish, ON3P Caylors, or Salomon Rocker 2 but am open to suggestions. Being able to land switch in powder is mandatory as well as being versatile enough to handle a little hard pack (not much). Also what size? I think somewhere around a 185 cm should be about right, but I'm not completely sure. Any help is appreciated.

Quoting lukemeahan. from Jun 24 2012 11:27:17:
For ski sizes anything like above 183 and between 190 would be fine for you. For skis, you could get the JJ again or even the AK JJ if you want. But if you are looking for a new ski, Atomic Bent Chetler, (I don't know the stiffness compared to the JJ) Rossignol S7, (The thinner tail might be a problem landing switch in pow maybe not) and the ON3P Caylor as you mentioned. There are many other options out there. If I were your height and weight and in your situation I would get the Caylor. That's just me though.

Quoting lukemeahan. from Jun 24 2012 11:27:17:
For ski sizes anything like above 183 and between 190 would be fine for you. For skis, you could get the JJ again or even the AK JJ if you want. But if you are looking for a new ski, Atomic Bent Chetler, (I don't know the stiffness compared to the JJ) Rossignol S7, (The thinner tail might be a problem landing switch in pow maybe not) and the ON3P Caylor as you mentioned. There are many other options out there. If I were your height and weight and in your situation I would get the Caylor. That's just me though.

Quoting AdamHoleman from Jun 24 2012 11:34:54:
Yeah I'm not really a fan of Rossignols skis.. The Benchetlers and Caylors both look like pretty solid skis, but I'd probably choose the Caylors over the Benchetlers. Any opinions on the Moment Night Train?

Quoting AdamHoleman from Jun 24 2012 11:34:54:
Yeah I'm not really a fan of Rossignols skis.. The Benchetlers and Caylors both look like pretty solid skis, but I'd probably choose the Caylors over the Benchetlers. Any opinions on the Moment Night Train?

Quoting Tanner-D from Jun 25 2012 12:30:09:
Moment Night Trains are soooo much fun super playful and stable ski but when you say freestyle what do you mwan exactly because moment also makes the Ghostchants which are slightly larger than the nigh trains but rockered way more. They would be better than the nigh trains for lading switch and what not but not for stability and charging.

Quoting AdamHoleman from Jun 25 2012 7:10:26:
By freestyle, I mean I'll be throwing tricks off cliffs and powder kickers. The Ghost Chant seems too soft for my taste, but the Night Train is definitely an option.

Quoting skiception from Jun 25 2012 1:44:53:
I'd go caylor over night trains every time. Caylors are a much better ski

Quoting skiception from Jun 25 2012 1:44:53:
I'd go caylor over night trains every time. Caylors are a much better ski

Quoting skiception from Jun 25 2012 2:10:01:
They have much better construction and will ski much better everywhere you are. Ask anyone who has them and they will tell you why they are one of the best skis made

Quoting Tanner-D from Jun 26 2012 12:09:28:
Ok ok I see this argument but I know for a fact that moment construction has only gotten better. In fact it is probably better now notice I say now than on3p. Let's face it moment is a larger company with more money to throw towards better construction. On the other hand if he wanted a better all around ski I would go with the moment bibby's they are amazing so so diverse. You can ski the Bibby as long as it's not ice out to the deepest powder.

Quoting skiception from Jun 26 2012 12:46:04:
I would still say on3p has better construction and saying that moment is heftier doesn't justify anything. On3p has better construction than most big companies out there. I actually can't name a ski company that uses better construction

Quoting Tanner-D from Jun 26 2012 12:54:37:
Still no solid proof. Not trying to argue with you just going to say that moments construction is not bad. I no they have had issues in the past but just go Moment \m/

Quoting Tanner-D from Jun 26 2012 12:09:28:
Let's face it moment is a larger company with more money to throw towards better construction

Quoting hokkanee$ from Jun 26 2012 1:31:07:
So with that argument, would you say that suspects are a superior product to both Moment and ON3P?

Quoting skiception from Jun 26 2012 12:46:04:
I would still say on3p has better construction and saying that moment is heftier doesn't justify anything. On3p has better construction than most big companies out there. I actually can't name a ski company that uses better construction

Quoting momentz from Jun 26 2012 9:03:29:
Even though I love on3p products a few company's that use fantastic construction not nesscicarily better but I think equal would be pm gear, folsom, and praxis.

Quoting AdamHoleman from Jun 24 2012 10:59:06PM:
Hey guys, so I'm a 6 ft 175 lb teenager who's been skiing since the age of two. I got in to powder freestyle skiing four years ago when I bought a pair of Armada JJs (175 cm). These skis have brought my skiing to a whole new level but I'm starting to suspect they're a little too short as well as being pretty beaten up. So I have two questions: 1: Skis are expensive. My JJ's are still skiable but they're beaten up and starting to get more squirrely the bigger and better I get, due to the short length. Is this enough of a reason to justify buying a new pair? 2: If I do decide to drop some money on new skis, I want to get the perfect pair for my style. I'm looking for something a little more stable (maybe slightly stiffer than the JJs?) that can handle big drops but can still spin easy (cork 7s, double flips, etc...). I'm thinking something like the Moment Deathwish, ON3P Caylors, or Salomon Rocker 2 but am open to suggestions. Being able to land switch in powder is mandatory as well as being versatile enough to handle a little hard pack (not much). Also what size? I think somewhere around a 185 cm should be about right, but I'm not completely sure. Any help is appreciated.

Quoting Matt_Rossi from Jun 26 2012 9:31:42:
Surface New Life's in a 184 or Surface One Life's in a 189

Quoting Session from Jun 26 2012 2:33:23:
PM is kind of notorious for delams. There are plenty of people that drink to kool-aid but it's not all it's cracked up to be.

Quoting Pikachu.$ from Sep 29 2012 7:51:55:
line EP pro? doesn't pollard design these skis to ski switch in pow well?