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RubberSoul
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I was thinking yesterday about the average speed for hitting jumps, and really for most nice jumps youre not really going that fast... but from TBC i know chad's (at least that day) needed like 55-60 mph.. does anyone know, or have an educated guess, what the fastest speed someone has hit a jump at is? i suppose im asking about man made lips, but i do remember seeing a video with sage absolutely pinning it at a windlip or something and doing a huge flat

anyway, any ideas? have there ever been any jumps hit that were pretty much at the upper limit of what a normal good skier would consider pointing it (somewhere between 60 and 75)?
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Jun 26 2012
3:47:02PM
The fastest you can hit a jump on skis is 87mph. At precisely 88mph you will time travel.

I seen it. Better have your fucking watches synchronized.
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Jun 26 2012
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I can't find it for the life of me, but I'm almost positive Tony Boronowski hitting a pretty sketchy jump switch at about 70 mph in Save.
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Jun 26 2012
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Quoting JenniferGarner from Jun 26 2012 3:40:07:
no it's pretty easy to get up to 98mph when you're being towed in by a sled, going down a ski run... it scares me to think about what will be forgotten by you kids in the next 3 years...
who forgot anything? someone posted about the rage jump and i talked about it too before you even came into the thread

if you'd stop trying so hard to be condescending to people that are probably older than you and have been into skiing for longer, maybe you could say if or how you know that they were actually hitting the lip at 100 mph? cause it doesnt sound all that likely.. all im asking for is more information, don't really see what's getting you so angry here
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The rage jump that spong overshot was at my home mountain, and I heard rumor from a patroller that the speedometer on the sleds read apron. 95mph when they were hitting it.
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Quoting Jahseph.$ from Jun 26 2012 4:06:43:
The rage jump that spong overshot was at my home mountain, and I heard rumor from a patroller that the speedometer on the sleds read apron. 95mph when they were hitting it.
aprox.
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Jun 27 2012
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Alpine ski racing top DH speeds are like 130-150km/h depending on the course, which involve jumps. Ski cross has some pretty big jumps they hit at massive speed too. Anyone who has been to X Games and stood at the finish area and has seen how much further the SX guys were landing (on the flats waaaaay past tranny, Julia Murray landed past the finish line and put her chin to knee pretty bad.) vs. Ski Big Air will have some idea. They're definitely not going 130, probably more like 80km/h since buttermilk is flat. Other Steeper courses are faster though.

Just going to throw it out there, going 100mph on a snowmobile is pretty damn fast, I can't say I've ever gone over 140KM/h on a sled and thats full pin across flat lake beds on an 800cc machine. 100mph = 160km/h and you have to factor in loft and vertical height, drop etc when trying to calculate distances like that. IE: We were hitting a sled booter late this spring, total of 180ft take off to landing (measured) and I can guarantee you we were not going that absurdly fast, it was just a suuuuuper lofty jump to bit of a step down. It's hard to get going DH Alpine racing speeds without the correct wax and a relatively aerodynamic suit. Not saying it isn't possible, but I think people tend to grossly overestimate how fast they are going, along with how big their drops are. Watch footy from Wengen or Kitzbuhel DH races, 140km/h is fast. Doubt you're getting those speeds on 160cm park skis and tall tees. These guys get going 140km/h in speed suits on 220DH skis that have hundreds of dollars of wax put into their bases over time and spend god knows how many hours next to mirrors and in wind tunnels perfecting the most aerodynamic tuck possible. The guys that speed ski for sheer speed? They wear plastic/latex suits and have crazy fins on their helmets legs and arms to reduce drag to attain those speeds.
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Jun 27 2012
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Dudemont obviously hahah however fast he was going
"If i open the window of my room will the altitude get in?"
"Careful theres a rail after that jump!"
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Jun 27 2012
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Quoting Jahseph.$ from Jun 26 2012 4:07:29:
aprox.
Speedo's on sleds are notoriously inaccurate. They're based on how fast the track is spinning, and it will spin faster or slip/spin in place in icy conditions, hard pack or excessively deep snow, if it's slipping, it's not an accurate indicator of true speed. The track also cuts down into the snowpack as well before propelling the snowmobile forward. How you've geared your clutch/chaincase can alter this as well. A radar gun is going to be the most accurate method of judging speed, not the speedo gauge.
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Jun 27 2012
5:54:21AM
this. fuck that, this guys are just crazy. not sure about the speed here, but im sure its over 120 kmh.

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Jun 27 2012
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Quoting Nadia.$ from Jun 27 2012 3:29:15:
Alpine ski racing top DH speeds are like 130-150km/h depending on the course, which involve jumps. Ski cross has some pretty big jumps they hit at massive speed too. Anyone who has been to X Games and stood at the finish area and has seen how much further the SX guys were landing (on the flats waaaaay past tranny, Julia Murray landed past the finish line and put her chin to knee pretty bad.) vs. Ski Big Air will have some idea. They're definitely not going 130, probably more like 80km/h since buttermilk is flat. Other Steeper courses are faster though. Just going to throw it out there, going 100mph on a snowmobile is pretty damn fast, I can't say I've ever gone over 140KM/h on a sled and thats full pin across flat lake beds on an 800cc machine. 100mph = 160km/h and you have to factor in loft and vertical height, drop etc when trying to calculate distances like that. IE: We were hitting a sled booter late this spring, total of 180ft take off to landing (measured) and I can guarantee you we were not going that absurdly fast, it was just a suuuuuper lofty jump to bit of a step down. It's hard to get going DH Alpine racing speeds without the correct wax and a relatively aerodynamic suit. Not saying it isn't possible, but I think people tend to grossly overestimate how fast they are going, along with how big their drops are. Watch footy from Wengen or Kitzbuhel DH races, 140km/h is fast. Doubt you're getting those speeds on 160cm park skis and tall tees. These guys get going 140km/h in speed suits on 220DH skis that have hundreds of dollars of wax put into their bases over time and spend god knows how many hours next to mirrors and in wind tunnels perfecting the most aerodynamic tuck possible. The guys that speed ski for sheer speed? They wear plastic/latex suits and have crazy fins on their helmets legs and arms to reduce drag to attain those speeds.
this guy knows what's up.  Going 100 MPH into a park jump is absurd.  Try going 100 mph on the high way and stick your head out the window then tell me people hit jumps going that fast
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Jun 27 2012
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Quoting Nadia.$ from Jun 27 2012 3:32:03:
Speedo's on sleds are notoriously inaccurate. They're based on how fast the track is spinning, and it will spin faster or slip/spin in place in icy conditions, hard pack or excessively deep snow, if it's slipping, it's not an accurate indicator of true speed. The track also cuts down into the snowpack as well before propelling the snowmobile forward. How you've geared your clutch/chaincase can alter this as well. A radar gun is going to be the most accurate method of judging speed, not the speedo gauge.
they used a speed gun...

it was a 100ft. true channel gap and it was built horribly...

it happened and its in a ski movie that didn't come out too long ago but yet you kids still insist that it didn't happen. are you all on bath salts or something? by the way your logic of comparing skiers to snowmobiles while in the air is impeccable.
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Jun 27 2012
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Toss up between DH and SkierX.

Downhill they are typically more or less drops or rollers. Skier X they are usually actual jumps.

Given, these guys don't do tricks on them... But in Skier X you have the fear of the guy in front of you wiping out. So I suppose it's all relative.

Biggest Jumps I have ever done have all been in Skier Cross... just cause you get the adrenaline going during a race and it's less scary. Get me to the park and I'm like.. ummm 25 feet you say...
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Jun 27 2012
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Quoting JenniferGarner from Jun 27 2012 10:14:04:
they used a speed gun... it was a 100ft. true channel gap and it was built horribly... it happened and its in a ski movie that didn't come out too long ago but yet you kids still insist that it didn't happen. are you all on bath salts or something? by the way your logic of comparing skiers to snowmobiles while in the air is impeccable.
Dude, you need to shut the fuck up now. Prove to us they we're leaving the lip of the jump at 100 mph, and i'll eat my words and apologise to you. Until then, shut you damn mouth, and stop being a fucking retard.
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Quoting JenniferGarner from Jun 27 2012 10:14:04:
they used a speed gun... it was a 100ft. true channel gap and it was built horribly... it happened and its in a ski movie that didn't come out too long ago but yet you kids still insist that it didn't happen. are you all on bath salts or something? by the way your logic of comparing skiers to snowmobiles while in the air is impeccable.
You are so retarded. There is no way anyone could go that fast on regular skis, let alone hitting a jump that fast.
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Jun 27 2012
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Quoting JenniferGarner from Jun 26 2012 12:40:14:
This is the nature of action sports, for kids to completely ignorant about their own sport. If anyone has the record it's Mike Wilson for being towed into the true channel gap at the park shoot for RAGE Films Corduroy. He was being towed in at just under 100 MPH, yes that's MILES per hour, and he kept overshooting the jump to the bottom. Here's the trailer with one of Wilson's overshoots. http://www.ragefilms.com/storeProduct.php?id=RP-024 Now can you kids go back to discussing something you know about like the personal lives of pro skiers? This thread is just painful to read through.
they might have written 98mph but don't call a kid ignorant for disagreeing, have you ever ski raced or even watched a race? or speed skiing? they have speedometers that are far more accurate than a snowmobile gage and i truly believe it is physically impossible to go 100mph on park skis with park bindings and boot and park clothing, seriously impossible, the fastest i ever saw was 93mph and it was super fucked up, the dudes are like body builders pushing physical limits, mike wilson is insane, but not a body builder, and not a speed skier, and i don't trust rage films with statistics
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Jun 27 2012
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Quoting JenniferGarner from Jun 27 2012 10:14:04:
they used a speed gun... it was a 100ft. true channel gap and it was built horribly... it happened and its in a ski movie that didn't come out too long ago but yet you kids still insist that it didn't happen. are you all on bath salts or something? by the way your logic of comparing skiers to snowmobiles while in the air is impeccable.
dude nobody is claiming it didnt happen (as said, we were talking about it before your highness showed up), we're saying we'd love to see some proof that they were actually hitting the lip at 100 mph because it seems pretty implausible.

if you'd stop being as condescending and angry as possible for 3 seconds and offer some proof we'd LOVE to put our feet in our mouths, really. id love for that to be true because that's fucking gnarly
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btw i still don't believe my eyes that andres went 80 switch, i went 70 forwards once and it was extremely fast, i can't believe his skis stayed on, that was incredible, i was also 15 and weight 60 lbs less when i went 70 so i guess it could be easier now, i think the WCS / sammy jump was probably a 50 mph in run and the transition going up the jump was tough to manage, going twice as fast would have blown my knees
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Quoting AlexMartini from Jun 27 2012 1:40:41:
btw i still don't believe my eyes that andres went 80 switch, i went 70 forwards once and it was extremely fast, i can't believe his skis stayed on, that was incredible, i was also 15 and weight 60 lbs less when i went 70 so i guess it could be easier now, i think the WCS / sammy jump was probably a 50 mph in run and the transition going up the jump was tough to manage, going twice as fast would have blown my knees
(assuming GPS apps are remotely accurate) going 70 mph period isnt too crazy (dont get me wrong, it's super fast but if youre a good skier and youre on a safe run it's not too much to handle at all) but hitting a jump anywhere that fast sounds like the most terrifying thing ever, which is why i started wondering about this
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Quoting RubberSoul from Jun 27 2012 1:43:26:
(assuming GPS apps are remotely accurate) going 70 mph period isnt too crazy (dont get me wrong, it's super fast but if youre a good skier and youre on a safe run it's not too much to handle at all) but hitting a jump anywhere that fast sounds like the most terrifying thing ever, which is why i started wondering about this
i definitely think it would be much easier to manage now that I'm much heavier and stronger, but that chick claiming kids are ignorant to say its impossible to hit a jump at 100mph..... she is VERY ignorant
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Quoting AlexMartini from Jun 27 2012 1:48:45:
i definitely think it would be much easier to manage now that I'm much heavier and stronger, but that chick claiming kids are ignorant to say its impossible to hit a jump at 100mph..... she is VERY ignorant
no, the kids are ignorant for getting the idea that i ever said he was taking off at 100mph... i said being towed in ya numb skulls.

these kids are just nitpicking bringing up how fast he took off at because they're bitching that the best answer to the question came from a lady.

whoa hold on here... if it happened then it must have been recorded somewhere... but where... ah ha!

http://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/1131.0/RAGE-Films%E2%80%99-Booters-Ball-II

"Mike decided to add more pop to the jump and tow in as fast as the sled could go; a 100+ MPH to be exact.
Mike made numerous speed checks and decided it was time. He made his ascent to the top, turned around, and made his march down the in run. He hit the lip at 85 MPH, blasted off the lip, and was way the fuck in the air."

welp i guess i was wrong, he was being towed in excess of 100mph. and if you have a problem with RAGE's credibility, that's your problem and not theirs because they're out of business.
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there's even photo graphical evidence! enjoy the blast from the not-so-very past [IMG]http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/site/news/11485735886746/web_mike.jpg&size=600x564[/IMG]

if that doesn't work just scroll to the bottom of the link i posted above. yes that's an overshoot to flat.
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Quoting AlexMartini from Jun 27 2012 1:40:41:
btw i still don't believe my eyes that andres went 80 switch, i went 70 forwards once and it was extremely fast, i can't believe his skis stayed on, that was incredible, i was also 15 and weight 60 lbs less when i went 70 so i guess it could be easier now, i think the WCS / sammy jump was probably a 50 mph in run and the transition going up the jump was tough to manage, going twice as fast would have blown my knees
agreed, when B-dog was a little backseat going up a jump at x games, he couldnt stand up going against the transition of the jump, and fell straight on his back on the knuckle. Even though he was backseat, a transition of a jump at 100mph would fuck you up, even if it wasnt very steep. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Me9F4gzzWFw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Quoting JenniferGarner from Jun 27 2012 10:14:04:
they used a speed gun... it was a 100ft. true channel gap and it was built horribly... it happened and its in a ski movie that didn't come out too long ago but yet you kids still insist that it didn't happen. are you all on bath salts or something? by the way your logic of comparing skiers to snowmobiles while in the air is impeccable.
Obviously you can't read, because I most definitely used examples of ACCURATE speeds in Skier-Cross, and Alpine DH racing for comparison. All I said regarding snowmobiling is that using the speedo gauge is VERY INACCURATE and cannot be trusted. Hence your logic for deducing skier speed based off of snowmobile tow-in is flawed.

As for your sexist remarks regarding opinion/reception of your very flawed evidence being a result of you being negative because of your sex, I too am female, but I can back up my statements with fact. Claiming the "you all hate me because I'm female and right" argument is like crying wolf. Thanks for making it that much harder for the rest of us to be taken serious.

DH races use speed traps and laser barriers placed at different distances on course, the time it takes for the athlete to enter and exit those two beams calculates their speed. I've raced the Nor-AM DH at Lake Louise and average speeds were 125-139km/h at the bottom of the fastest part of the course. That is on 225 speed skis, with dialed in wax, full tuck after a long sustained STEEP pitch that is WATER INJECTED, like an ice rink. In fact a course worker fell and slid the 800ft to the bottom of the hill and broke his leg it was so sketchy. That is shit your pants fast.

You're trying to tell me a guy on park skis probably 2-3ft shorter than this in full baggy get up in the backcountry or on resort went over 30-40km/h faster than this? I just don't see this happening. Like I said, people tend to over-exaggerate how fast they go or how big their drops actually are. People claim they hit 30ft cliffs all the time, but stand on top of a 3 story house and tell me thats how much the cliff was, probably not the case. Similar regarding speed.
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Quoting Nadia.$ from Jun 27 2012 8:14:03:
Obviously you can't read, because I most definitely used examples of ACCURATE speeds in Skier-Cross, and Alpine DH racing for comparison. All I said regarding snowmobiling is that using the speedo gauge is VERY INACCURATE and cannot be trusted. Hence your logic for deducing skier speed based off of snowmobile tow-in is flawed. As for your sexist remarks regarding opinion/reception of your very flawed evidence being a result of you being negative because of your sex, I too am female, but I can back up my statements with fact. Claiming the "you all hate me because I'm female and right" argument is like crying wolf. Thanks for making it that much harder for the rest of us to be taken serious. DH races use speed traps and laser barriers placed at different distances on course, the time it takes for the athlete to enter and exit those two beams calculates their speed. I've raced the Nor-AM DH at Lake Louise and average speeds were 125-139km/h at the bottom of the fastest part of the course. That is on 225 speed skis, with dialed in wax, full tuck after a long sustained STEEP pitch that is WATER INJECTED, like an ice rink. In fact a course worker fell and slid the 800ft to the bottom of the hill and broke his leg it was so sketchy. That is shit your pants fast. You're trying to tell me a guy on park skis probably 2-3ft shorter than this in full baggy get up in the backcountry or on resort went over 30-40km/h faster than this? I just don't see this happening. Like I said, people tend to over-exaggerate how fast they go or how big their drops actually are. People claim they hit 30ft cliffs all the time, but stand on top of a 3 story house and tell me thats how much the cliff was, probably not the case. Similar regarding speed.
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I am not sure if I am right or not, but couldn't a skier only go so fast without being propelled by anything except gravity? Like at some point gravity can only move you so fast right? That being said, I am sure that if you were really good at physics you could figure out the ideal speed for any size jump and calculate the largest jump that could be built that a person could clear with all max gravity factors to go the fastest.
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Quoting Nadia.$ from Jun 27 2012 8:14:03:
Obviously you can't read,
neither can you or else you would have not ignored my post confirming/ending this thread. my job is done here. jgarnes out.
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Quoting JenniferGarner from Jun 27 2012 7:15:59:
He hit the lip at 85 MPH, blasted off the lip, and was way the fuck in the air." welp i guess i was wrong, he was being towed in excess of 100mph
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Jun 28 2012
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Quoting JenniferGarner from Jun 27 2012 7:15:59:
welp i guess i was wrong, he was being towed in excess of 100mph. and if you have a problem with RAGE's credibility, that's your problem and not theirs because they're out of business.
Thanks for taking the high road, and admitting that you were wrong.
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Snowstock BigAir-contest went down in  Kongsberg, Norway today. Sick jump, perfect weather, skiing with friends and a big crowd! Finally things starting to pay off when I ski every day! I was super-nervous about the jump this morning. A lot of speed needed and the snow was pure ice. I did not hit it on [...][IMG]http://media.newschoolers.com/uploads/images/17/00/43/43/71/434371.jpeg[/IMG]

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Breddern made a good day for us

Breddern made a good day for us

Feb 28th 2010

Blue skies, dry pow, perfect day for a shot I believe that CR took care of my day at Vogel. It was just perfect step down road gap kick. I had only 2 tries to hit it because of a tight landing and 2 more persons who jumped it aswell.I feel as a really bad skier when it comes to step down jumps. It just feels a bit weird if you jump park kickers and don't have such a good conditions over the ski season in Slovenia to practice that kind of jump. Firstly you are not sure with how much speed you have to kick it, secondly it feels a bit awkward in the air because of higher speed and lower control in the air...and at the end you have only couple of tries to stomp the trick and get away with a clean shot.The decision about going for the mellow shot or going for the "can't be famous doing pussy stuff" shot is always a bit tricky, but we try to make the second one work outi went for mellow 360 and pretty cool 720 and got both caught on tape...Caught the prey, got the 1st pow shot of the season...Thanks CR...believe in righteous words!  

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