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Subject: On3p jeffrey vs line bacons vs 4frnt turbo vs moment pb&j
I put a thread out before about skis. With that info and some slight research i think this is what i have narrowed it down to ON3p Jeffreys, Line Sir Francis Bacons, 4frnt Turbos, or the Moment PB&J. If anyone has any input about these skis i would love to hear. I am 6'1" 220 lbs and a pretty aggressive skier. I am pretty rough on my gear and I am looking for something to be a bit more powder oriented (east coast so nothing huge) but that being said i really want something is a good all mountain ski. Something that can carve decent and can really hold a good pace through crud and chopped up stuff. Thanks for the input guys will give +k for responses.
I can only speak for the bacons, and i love them, they float pretty good, and i can still lay an edge over, the best ski ive ever had
Quoting dude_ski from Apr 11 2012 12:19:43:
I can only speak for the bacons, and i love them, they float pretty good, and i can still lay an edge over, the best ski ive ever had
I can only speak for the bacons, and i love them, they float pretty good, and i can still lay an edge over, the best ski ive ever had
solid man thanks for the input where do you ski normally and how do they hold up in chopped up stuff? I had thought they were relativly soft and would get knocked around a bit
Bacons are amazing and slay everything. Even in crud they are decent. They are the best ski I've ever had, carve amazingly, make 3 inches of fresh feel like a foot, stomp jumps, and even slay rails. Best skis ever.
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Quoting YooperSteeze from Apr 11 2012 10:55:20:
Bacons are amazing and slay everything. Even in crud they are decent. They are the best ski I've ever had, carve amazingly, make 3 inches of fresh feel like a foot, stomp jumps, and even slay rails. Best skis ever.
Bacons are amazing and slay everything. Even in crud they are decent. They are the best ski I've ever had, carve amazingly, make 3 inches of fresh feel like a foot, stomp jumps, and even slay rails. Best skis ever.
Sweet man. I will have the sma equiver as you if i get the bacons and i like that you ski the midwest a little more comparable conditons to the east. thanks man
line's quality is garbage compared to on3p, no experience with the 4frnt's, but the pb&j is supposed to be fun how ever a friend of mine had his start delaming after a day
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Moments are just as trash as line. On3p is the way to go
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The build quality of Bacons is a lot better than the rest of line's models. I say bacons. But then again I've heard nothing but good of ON3P, so they'd be a good choice too. Hopefully if I get some cash I'll be adding some filthy riches to my quiver!
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i would definitely choose the jeffrey's. i think they would hold up a bit better than the line's in every condition plus park if you want to take them there.
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Without knowing exactly what and how you ski, I can't make a definitive call, but based on my experience with the Jeffery's, I would be tempted to say they would be too soft for you. I'm 60lbs lighter than you, and I was still able to overpower them in really aggressive terrain. If you don't plan on charging steep chutes and cliffs, you should be fine with them though, as I love them everywhere else.
Quoting mittfree from Apr 11 2012 11:11:19:
Without knowing exactly what and how you ski, I can't make a definitive call, but based on my experience with the Jeffery's, I would be tempted to say they would be too soft for you. I'm 60lbs lighter than you, and I was still able to overpower them in really aggressive terrain. If you don't plan on charging steep chutes and cliffs, you should be fine with them though, as I love them everywhere else.
yeah not to much of that in the east, but what are you riding for a refrence point?Without knowing exactly what and how you ski, I can't make a definitive call, but based on my experience with the Jeffery's, I would be tempted to say they would be too soft for you. I'm 60lbs lighter than you, and I was still able to overpower them in really aggressive terrain. If you don't plan on charging steep chutes and cliffs, you should be fine with them though, as I love them everywhere else.
i have ridden the pj&j's and iall i can say is when they say one ski quiver they mean it this ski destoys every thing from powder to rails to hard pack ice/ crud
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Quoting iwalkins from Apr 11 2012 11:23:34:
yeah not to much of that in the east, but what are you riding for a refrence point?
Left chutes in the picture to get an idea for pitch and technicality.
yeah not to much of that in the east, but what are you riding for a refrence point?
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Quoting mittfree from Apr 12 2012 12:11:50:
Left chutes in the picture to get an idea for pitch and technicality.
Sorry i meant like what skis have you ridden that stand up to that, my mistake should have been clearer, but that picture is actually pretty useful thanks manLeft chutes in the picture to get an idea for pitch and technicality.
I can only speak for the PB&J's(188). I am 6'3 220 and the ski kills everything at Mammoth.
Quoting str6t9 from Apr 12 2012 1:17:13:
I can only speak for the PB&J's(188). I am 6'3 220 and the ski kills everything at Mammoth.
how many days you have on them and have they sustained any topsheet chipping or other damage?
I can only speak for the PB&J's(188). I am 6'3 220 and the ski kills everything at Mammoth.
I have approximately 40 days on them are fine. All mountain, park you name it. The usual top sheet chipping from the edges hitting them but no delamination. Great skis.
Quoting iwalkins from Apr 12 2012 12:56:37:
Sorry i meant like what skis have you ridden that stand up to that, my mistake should have been clearer, but that picture is actually pretty useful thanks man
Sorry for the mixup. Prior to the Jeffrey's, I had 05 EP Pros which were skinnier and shorter, but stiffer. They lacked the extra float of the Jeffrey's, but had more controll in the steeps.
Sorry i meant like what skis have you ridden that stand up to that, my mistake should have been clearer, but that picture is actually pretty useful thanks man
I love my PB&J's! they are super smooth on rails and kill it in the crud! havent gotten a chance to get them out on some powder yet, but i am excited to next season! the only bad thing is that they chip a little, but that doesnt affect the performance, but if you want a one ski quiver, the PB&J's are the ones for you!
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great thread. I'm on the Bacons and can't complain. I'm interested in hearing about those other skis though.
Thanks! Actually made a purchase now. I couldn't pass up on3p's sale, so I got a pair of 186 jeronimos. A little narrower than these, but I figured a 101 mm waist would fit. Having a 110 mm waist and a powder skis seems like a bit of overlap. Stoked to get my skis though
if u are 6'1" and 220 u will overpower bacons. i am 5'9" 140 and i feel like the biggest size is short sormetimes. a guy your size should go ON3P for reliability and stability.
Sweet man, thats what I did. Glad to know others think it was a good idea too. I was a little torn about the length for a bit, but then I thought about it and I have never wished my skis were shorter but I have wished they were longer, so I did the 186
Quoting mittfree from Apr 12 2012 12:11:50:
Left chutes in the picture to get an idea for pitch and technicality.
I ride 189 Turbos here^^^, and I find them to be a great ski every day. No issues with durability yet, Elan mbuilds bomber skis.Left chutes in the picture to get an idea for pitch and technicality.
Something else to think about is the turning radius of the skis you are looking at. The Turbo has a 28m radius, while the Line has a 18m and the Jeffrey a 24m turning radius. Shorter is better in the tress, but can get a little squirrely in the crud.
FWIW, I'm 5'11/190, and I ski my Turbos with Dukes.
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