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The most light and buttery ski

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Jesper89
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Im looking to buy new skis. I have a pair of Armada Alpha 1 from last year which i think are pretty stiff.

Atomic punx and a-bangs have been recommended, but what do you guys think?
Jan 23 2012 4:01PM
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QuinnBestwick
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afterbangs are heavy as fuck and  the halos i would say
Jan 23 2012 4:16PM
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BjornR
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punx are much lighter and slighty stiffer than afterbang but no means a stiff ski. I just wish they made a wide punx with the same flex :)
Jan 23 2012 6:10PM
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Forcillo
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This. I've heard good things about Anthems, THalls, and halos but do some research
Jan 23 2012 9:57PM
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stickerman
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punx for sure. line masterminds as well
Jan 23 2012 10:02PM
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84891jnf92048
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Joystick These. Holy shit. Light as a feather, and softer than a memory foam mattress.
Jan 23 2012 10:04PM
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.Hugo.
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Punx, LTE, Domain, Antigen if you can find some old invaders or anthems
Jan 23 2012 11:21PM
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Bumblesteeze
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They actually do, the ski is called the patent.

Jan 24 2012 9:22AM
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Jesper89
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The weight of liberty skis looks great, but I think they are too stiff compared to punx.
Jan 24 2012 10:59AM
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rudager
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Yep! The These, or the Anthem
Jan 24 2012 11:51AM
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.Hugo.
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I have the LTEs and trust me they are super easy to butter and press. Might be stiffer than the punx but not stiff by any means
Jan 24 2012 12:28PM
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Jesper89
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What is the weight of These? Can't seem to find it anywere. Their website says "not light, but not heavy" LOL.
Never heard of that specific brand before.
Jan 24 2012 12:43PM
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YourBoyBlue
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The Patent is a lil stiffer. Punx are great though, light and really fun, I love mine
Jan 24 2012 1:01PM
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Bumblesteeze
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I tried out my punx for the first time this past Saturday and they were so much fun.
Jan 24 2012 1:07PM
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YourBoyBlue
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What size do you have? I'm on the 182
Jan 24 2012 1:13PM
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rudager
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It's Joystick Poles, and they're a division of Freeski Brands (Surface and Causwell too). I just held a pair of These with PX12s in one hand, and a pair of beat to shit Anthems with STH 16 Drivers in the other hand. The These felt lighter, but it doesn't have a massive binding on them. I've said it before, if you go forthr lightest thing possible, you sacrifice durability.
Jan 24 2012 1:25PM
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rudager
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Just talked to my buddy who has the These, and has skied the Anthems. He said the These is much lighter.
Jan 24 2012 1:30PM
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saskskier
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Does anyone know if Joystick is going to come out with a longer These? I want that ski more than anything, but I need something at least 180.
Jan 24 2012 1:39PM
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rudager
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Nope, maybe next year?

How tall are you? Weight?

I'm 6'2", 170 and am just on a pair of 179 center mounted Anthems. They're fine for jibbing, but I find them too short and dead for jumps.
Jan 24 2012 1:49PM
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saskskier
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Ha ha. I'm 6'3 and 250ish. I just want something to mess around on. We have next to nothing for jumps around here and I will never get technical on rails and anytime I head out went park is the last thing on my mind.
Jan 24 2012 1:52PM
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rudager
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With your size, you might find something like the Anthem or These much too small.

Check out the Atomic Patent and Punx.
Also, ON3P Filthy Rich
Jan 24 2012 1:57PM
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saskskier
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I definitely know they are too small. It's frustrating being a big dude that wants something that is going to be buttery (although I suppose I can toss my weight around pretty good), symmetrical, etc. It's not that there aren't options out there, I just like to have a wide selection to choose from. On the bright side, I'm not getting anything new this year....
Jan 24 2012 2:05PM
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rudager
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http://www.on3pskis.com/products/skis/filthy-rich/

Symmetrical, rockered, bomb proof, and look incredibly fun. My roommate has a pair and he loves them for everything.

They are also making a 186 for guys just like you next year.


GET THEM
Jan 24 2012 2:12PM
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Bumblesteeze
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I'm also skiing on the 182
Jan 24 2012 3:05PM
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Blurst
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Check the joysticks out
Jan 24 2012 3:17PM
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Stope.Neeze
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the halos are stiff idk about wait though

i have the thalls they are very buttery in the tip but stiff in the tail and wait doesent really matter that much

Jan 24 2012 3:29PM
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Bumblesteeze
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Weight a sec, I'm going to ask my friend about the wait of his halos.
Jan 24 2012 3:31PM
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.Hugo.
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lol

but the halos are light as fuck and have basically the lightest swing weight out there. the rocker also makes them feel very buttery
Jan 24 2012 3:34PM
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AnthonyWalsh
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The Line Afterbangs are definitely up there for most buttery
Jan 24 2012 4:34PM
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Jesper89
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I've heard that a couple of times now, but I can't find anything about them. Not on youtube, not here.
Can anyone link to a video where we actually can see them in action?
Jan 24 2012 5:15PM
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rudager
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Can't find it now since I'm on mobile. But check out Surface skis blog awhile back. Rob Huele does a review on them
Jan 24 2012 5:26PM
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Jesper89
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Found it - thx!
But I didn't get that they are 175 only -that's to short for me :(
Jan 24 2012 5:31PM
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84891jnf92048
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I can do a review on them right here, thats probably more subjective than Heule's. They are incredibly light, and very very soft, but still quite poppy. This makes them excellent for doing really tweaked out and snappy shifties and taps and such. They are amazingly buttery, moreso than my afterbangs. It's a bit weird to learn how to press them, because they're so soft, and you cant really mean into them as much as you would another ski or else they just flex out and you go too far. All in all, I loved mine until I started skiing on some full rocker skis which are a bit stiffer. I haven't skied on them since then. If light and ultra buttery is what you want though, go with the These.
Jan 24 2012 5:33PM
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Jesper89
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Anybody know of an european dealer of Joystick skis?
Jan 25 2012 2:38PM
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Jesper89
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Do u know a european distributor? Plz help me. Im really stoked on getting these now!!
Jan 26 2012 8:12AM
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.cam.
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I'm a little bigger than you and I have found the k2 kung fujas very buttery but not super light. Not necessarilly heavy just not light. The atomic patents are super buttery and very soft. I loved them the few times I tried them. So much fun.
Jan 26 2012 6:05PM
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ballsofsteeze
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it was really weird reading "these" as a name of skis.

"how are the these." just kinda awkward haha. but i know someone with them and they are pretty buttery.
Jan 26 2012 9:22PM
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84891jnf92048
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Those?

No man, THESE.

Yeah, those. I just said those.

No you fuckin idiot, it's THESE.

OH MY GOD YES. THOSE.

FUCK OFF. ITS FUCKING THESE YOU SHITBAG
Jan 26 2012 10:01PM
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Miclovin
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Moment "vices" are gnar

Jan 26 2012 10:31PM
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DrZoidberg
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Wimmy wam timmy tall sticks just killed.

And how many times are they gonna tell us how big the features are?
Jan 26 2012 11:29PM
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DrZoidberg
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wrong thread much?
Jan 26 2012 11:30PM
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Lucas
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Jo pro
Jan 31 2012 6:17PM
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Stope.Neeze
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WRONG !

halos are stiff t-halls are buttery in the tip but stiff in the tail

Jan 31 2012 7:22PM
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IceSteez
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I lol'd
Feb 1 2012 1:01AM
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IceSteez
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First of all..you should check if theres any threads about this before you add another.. that said.. i would recommend the Thalls, got them my self! super happy about them. Anthems and Punx are also very light and buttery;)
Feb 1 2012 1:04AM
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coel
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Does anyone know if Joystick makes a smaller version of the these?
Jul 6 2013 12:52PM
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stupendous-man
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One size only.
Jul 7 2013 11:10PM
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razors-chaz
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curveball for what's been said in this thread but Volkl Ledge. I have the step (same shape and build as the ledge - carbon ollie bands) and theyre super light and the ledge is the more buttery version and comes in a 179.
Jul 8 2013 9:06AM
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Balbertt
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your right about the bangs, but halos are just rockered, they are pretty stiff skis. Thalls on the other hand are light af and noodles.
Jul 8 2013 12:33PM
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Balto
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Afterbangs are one of the worst skis ever made build wise, dont buy them
punx are pretty solid, jossie's new ski is worth looking into as well
anthems are fucking terrible, heavy/slow/shit flex (like most line skis)
t-halls stopped being noodles years ago
joystick/surface just make laughable skis

on3p filthy rich and fatypus g-butter will ski better then anything listed and hold up better in the long run
Jul 8 2013 1:10PM
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SSchepkowski
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check out some k2 skis like ther iron maiden, very soft
Jul 8 2013 7:28PM
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