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Quoting Jordan$ from Sep 9 2011 9:50:56:
I see what you're saying here and I do agree, but those people who make a facebook page and start snappn' away are the ones who do it for free. That said, I would encourage everyone to have fun etc... but don't undercut an entire industry. Those insecurities are legitimate because there are enough people offering to shoot weddings for $300 or a portrait session for 5 bucks. That really does fuck shit up. As a client, someone's going to be like Joe Schmoe over here can shoot for a portfolio trade, why should we pay you anything much-less what you quoted us.

Quoting steep$ from Sep 8 2011 9:55:17:
well its the best dslr EOS out(: no other eos camera has 15 megapixels(: and an adjustable shutter speed up to 6400 iso and the worlds fastest camera start up time 0.01 seconds and is the first camera to record in full hd 1080p (1920x1080 res)

Quoting klayer_9 from Sep 9 2011 10:27:46:
LOL!

Quoting J-Evs$ from Sep 8 2011 9:34:12:
hahaha. it is terrible, so many little freshman and sophomore girls think they are photographers around here... this ones probably the worst though, i mean just look at the watermark

Quoting B.Aussie from Sep 9 2011 10:14:04:
In saying that though that's how a lot of people have to start out. I have two friends that just got selected into the top photography school in my state out of 15,000 applicants so they're apparently very good photographers. But for them to get experience they have to sell themselves cheaply to shoot weddings and portraits. That is what the school tells them to do. But stemming from that one has now been able to professional shoots for Miss Universe Australia, and a few big fashion brands here. http://www.georgiawiggs.com/home She's a fashion photographer but here are some other shots. But then in saying that I have some horrible 'photographers' as facebook friends that take photos of things like a close up of carpet and think it's great.

Quoting LOVE_NINJA.$ from Sep 9 2011 10:52:45:
I REALLY want a link to that page. like really bad.

Quoting steep$ from Sep 10 2011 12:01:29:

Quoting .spaghetticat. from Sep 10 2011 12:21:36:
LOL my 300 doller camera (with lense )has 14.5 megapixcels hahaha

Quoting the.cheat from Sep 10 2011 12:25:52:
yeah but thats a point and shoot and megapixels mean nothing after you have like, 10. unless you do some serious cropping/blowing things up and have excellent resolving power. which p&s's do not have. but nor does a t1i with a kit lens

Quoting .spaghetticat. from Sep 10 2011 12:37:25:
imean this is a pretty sick camera

Quoting .spaghetticat. from Sep 10 2011 12:37:25:
imean this is a pretty sick camera

Quoting .spaghetticat. from Sep 10 2011 12:56:59:
no lol i didnt my friend just made it his profile pic

Quoting Moosen$ from Sep 8 2011 11:12:09:
my eyes hurt

Quoting Rachy from Sep 9 2011 11:22:53:
Yeah.... but doing a wedding or 2 is different than advertising yourself as a professional. People don't know what they are paying for. Oh sweet, here is this awesome PSD for you to use for your print campaign. Sweet. Can't blow it up cause you should have done it in Illustrator! I most recently had a client send me a virtual tour images and I said it was going to be a cube tour. He paid nearly a grand for photos that aren't usable because he didn't use a fish eye. I worked for a clothing company as a graphic designer/web designer. The owner hired a friend to do a photoshoot. He failed to realize that he did the entire shoot with his camera on "web" setting. Then the boss got upset with us when we tried to explain to her that we couldn't blow up the 600x800px image to 4ftx6ft. I get it if you are talented and say you will do something to build your portfolio. But you can't call yourself a professional until you have a portfolio of professional work. It's the amateurs that call themselves professionals that hurt the creative industry so much.

Quoting .Max. from Sep 9 2011 7:41:52:

Quoting LOVE_NINJA.$ from Sep 8 2011 10:09:56:
please. PLEASE. link me.

Quoting FUCK-YOU-CUNT$ from Sep 10 2011 1:35:28:

Quoting PJS.$ from Sep 8 2011 9:05:02:
people who post mirror pictures in sepia or something annoy me so much. especially when its a guy.

Quoting steep$ from Sep 10 2011 12:01:29:

Quoting God from Sep 10 2011 7:31:00:
I think this thread should also be about tumblrs that call them stuff photographers ... ... ... ... jk man I love your stuff

Quoting WillStart$ from Sep 8 2011 9:23:04:
I think the part that makes me lol even more about it is the consistently terrible use of watermarks. I'm not known for my use of text either, but seriously, if their photos are gonna be complete shit, they should at least try to create a decent watermark.

Quoting iSkier from Sep 10 2011 1:24:53:
I dont call myself a photographer, yet. Although im pretty stoked on how my 1st photoshoot for a track day went:) [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanbryant/6121279229/][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanbryant/6121279229/]Picture 270 modified[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/jordanbryant/]Jordan Dc5[/url], on Flickr [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanbryant/6121820666/][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanbryant/6121820666/]Picture 266 modified[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/jordanbryant/]Jordan Dc5[/url], on Flickr [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanbryant/6121273995/][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanbryant/6121273995/]Picture 212[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/jordanbryant/]Jordan Dc5[/url], on Flickr [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanbryant/6121820144/][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanbryant/6121820144/]Picture 254 modified[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/jordanbryant/]Jordan Dc5[/url], on Flickr

Quoting steep$ from Sep 10 2011 12:01:29:

Quoting CJHski from Sep 10 2011 5:53:21:
Alright kids.  I am a working photographer/student at the University of MT.  Nothing bothers me more than all these stupid hipster apps for iphones like "instagram" and such.  It's disappointing that recently photography had to be bundled into the whole hipster scene.  I've been photographing for like 10 years and i'm 22, I've been busting my ass and studying photography for 4 or years, and just in the last year or so I do consider "professional photographer", although i don't call it a career or profession as of yet.  I do consider myself a professional, because I HAVE had professional training, I DO have internships, I HAVE shadowed/assisted very successful photographers on shoots, and because I DO actually make a pretty decent amount of money for my photographs, all while being a full time student, working a standard 9-5 job, and photographing on the side.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to burst my own bubble with the previous statements,  I have just worked my ass off on top of working my ass off to get to where I am today.  Yeah, it really bothers me when people buy a DSLR and buy Photoshop Lightroom--> then they'll throw one of those hip presets that Lightroom has onto a shitty basic photo,-->crop the shit out of the photo-->annnd last they will throw a watermark on it, and call themselves photographers.  I wish it was a requirement to be able to go shoot with an old manual 35mm camera and learn how to develop your own film/print your own photos, before being able to buy a Canon Rebel and Photoshop. That being said, photography is changing rapidly, and for the "real" photographers, it is very frustrating.  But it is what it is.

Quoting MatRich from Sep 10 2011 6:02:41:
Completely agree with you, this is why there should be a union, before it gets much worse. With minimum wages, the noobs would be out of work and out of your way. right now there are two things that justify your services: skill, and price. yes you have the skill but at the end of the line a lot of people value the price more. If a noob doesnt have the skill but has the good price, he gets more work and recognition. If you take away the price factor and make it fair game for everyone... only skill matters. you can pay more to have the best of the best, but at least those who dont have the skill, wont be worth paying the price. I like how this thread has gone from funny bashing to political debate and industry structure talks. you guys helped to make this thread awsome!

Quoting CJHski from Sep 10 2011 6:20:38:
exactly! I have a big a tattoo of an old 8X10 camera on a wood grain tripod on my forearm, because I have been very passionate about photography/video for a good portion of my life.  I live in hipster-ville USA, Missoula MT, which is filled with hipster scum, and I have been called a hipster by a few of these clowns who role around with their tight pants and their Holga cameras around their neck like god damn clothing accessory.  It's absolutely infuriating!

Quoting Dan.$ from Sep 10 2011 6:23:45:
wait wait wait hold up. missoula is hipster-ville? i sense ignorance.

Quoting Moosen$ from Sep 10 2011 4:29:12:
Dude sick stuff! Here are a couple of my shots from the Oregon Trail rally. yeah i watermarked that shit. but just to get people to my website. which is a piece of shit right now haha

Quoting Dan.$ from Sep 10 2011 6:23:45:
wait wait wait hold up. missoula is hipster-ville? i sense ignorance.

Quoting Caveman.$ from Sep 10 2011 10:31:25:
Missoula is definitely Montana's hipster capitol.

Quoting Dan.$ from Sep 10 2011 10:35:17:
key word there is montana. I doubt more than a few of what the world would consider 'actual' hipsters exist in montana. they're probably just kids who shop at urban.

Quoting Caveman.$ from Sep 10 2011 11:15:48:
Have you spent any time in Missoula?

Quoting Dan.$ from Sep 10 2011 11:46:21:
I've been to Missoula. I've also been in the mission district SF, silverlake LA, williamsburg, green point, and park slope brooklyn, in austin during south by, and in portland. trust me when I say you haven't seen shit

Quoting CJHski from Sep 10 2011 5:53:21:
Alright kids.  I am a working photographer/student at the University of MT.  Nothing bothers me more than all these stupid hipster apps for iphones like "instagram" and such.  It's disappointing that recently photography had to be bundled into the whole hipster scene.  I've been photographing for like 10 years and i'm 22, I've been busting my ass and studying photography for 4 or years, and just in the last year or so I do consider "professional photographer", although i don't call it a career or profession as of yet.  I do consider myself a professional, because I HAVE had professional training, I DO have internships, I HAVE shadowed/assisted very successful photographers on shoots, and because I DO actually make a pretty decent amount of money for my photographs, all while being a full time student, working a standard 9-5 job, and photographing on the side.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to burst my own bubble with the previous statements,  I have just worked my ass off on top of working my ass off to get to where I am today.  Yeah, it really bothers me when people buy a DSLR and buy Photoshop Lightroom--> then they'll throw one of those hip presets that Lightroom has onto a shitty basic photo,-->crop the shit out of the photo-->annnd last they will throw a watermark on it, and call themselves photographers.  I wish it was a requirement to be able to go shoot with an old manual 35mm camera and learn how to develop your own film/print your own photos, before being able to buy a Canon Rebel and Photoshop. That being said, photography is changing rapidly, and for the "real" photographers, it is very frustrating.  But it is what it is.