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Subject: The answer to "what binding"
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Ok, so lately I’ve been noticing a ton of threads asking what bindings would suit them the best and as winter gets closer there’s gonna be a ton more, so I thought it’d be a good idea to have a thread which includes some info to your questions when considering binding choices.

 

Main things to consider when selecting bindings are skier weight, skier ability, binding price, and type of skiing you will be using it for.

 

There’s a lot of bindings around so I’m going to stick to the more popular ones and the ones i’ve had experience with.

 

First off, i’m assuming ability rating of II and III here:

 

10 Din and below bindings: I would recommend a 10 din and under binding for light weight skiers. Even for a skier who is rates themselves as level III ability, if they are under about 120lbs a 10 din might even be a bit much depending on the min setting of the binding. For reference, a din chart estimates a din of 6 (varies slightly depending on a few factors) for a level III skier between 108-125lbs.

 

12 Din Bindings: I would usually recommend a 12 din binding for people between 145lbs and 170/175lbs or so depending on ability. For most people on here, a 12 din binding would be perfect. If you’re a more cautious skier and don’t go fast, take impact ect you should really go down to a 10 din or below binder. Likewise if your aggressive skier you can go up, but be realistic. Don’t get an 18 din binding because if makes you look cool. You won’t be thinking its cool when you’re getting knee surgery and can’t ski half the winter.

 

14/15 Din Bindings: I would recommend a 14/15 din binding generally only for people who are 175lbs+ as well as being a pretty aggressive skier. Basically, if you’re not rating yourself as a level III skier and doing big jumps, cliff hucks, and skiing fast ect, you don’t need it and your better off saving your money.

 

18 + Din bindings: I would only recommend an 18+ din binding for people who are skiing very aggressively and are reasonably heavy. I would normally only recommend something like this for big mtn skiers where you only want your skis to come off in pretty gnarly bails.

 

All of these recommendations give you some “leeway” of the max din of the binding for the particular weight at a level lll skier. You don’t really want to be within 2 dins of the max. So for a 10 Din binding, you don’t really want to be setting it above about 8, likewise if it starts at 5 you don’t really want to se it too far below 7. So yeah..check the din range first.

 

10/11 Din er’s:

-Tyrolia Peak 11 (3-11)

-Rossignol freeski 100

-Look PX 10

-Look P10

-Rossi SAS 100

-head Mojo 11

-Rossi SAS2 110

 

12 Din er’s:

-Marker Griffon

-Look PX 12/Dynastar PX12/ PX12 jib

-Look P12

-Rossignol FKS 120

-Head Mojo/ Tyrolia Peak/ Amplid (all the same)

-Rossignol Axial 120

-Rossignol Axial worldcup 120

-Salomon STH 12

-Rossi SAS 120

-Rossi Axial2 120

-Rossi scratch 120

-Tyrolia freeflex 12

-4frnt deadbolt 12

-Rossi SAS 110

 

14/15/16s :

-Rossignol FKS 155

-Rossignol freeski 140

-Rossignol freeski 150

-Rossignol Axial 140

-Marker Jester

-Head Mojo 15/Tyrolia Peak 15

-Look PX14/PX15

-Salomon STH 16

-Salomon STH 14

-Salomon S914 Lab

-Tyrolia Freeflex 15

-Rossi SAS2 140

-Rossi SAS2 140 Ti

-4frnt deadbolt 14

 

18+ :

-Look P18

-Rossignol FKS 185

-Rossignol freeski 180

-Tyrolia Freeflex 18

-Salomon s920

-Salomon S916 (only goes to 16, but I’d put it up there with p18’s ect)

-rossi Freeski 200

-Rossi freeski2 180

-Rossi SAS2 200

 

Remember, this is a general GUDIELINE ONLY. There are a huge number of factors to consider. I know people who weigh nothing but are hucking off 60 foot cliffs, so they need a high din binding to keep them in. I know just as many people who like to ski on groomers and take it easy so don’t need a high din binding even though they are heavy. Ask yourself how heavy you are, how hard you ski. Where you ski, what you ski, and what ski your putting it on when choosing a binding.

 

 

DISCLAIMER: If you don’t know what you’re doing, do everyone a favour and don’t fuck with your dins. Any adjustments you make are at your own risk. Most shops will check your bindings and set dins for nothing, yes for FREE. So let them do it. Why put yourself in risk you don’t need to.

 

Why are my skis still pre-releasing? There set at like 16 and I weigh 150lbs !!!??????

A lot of people crank up their dins because there skis keep coming off when in reality, there forward pressures set wrong which just increases knee injury as you need so much force to get the ski off in slower crashes. Bottom line: Go to a store to have it checked out.

 

 I know i haven't covered everything or listed all the binding so feel free to ad. We could maybe make it some kind of binding database.

-Dave

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Quoting joshua from Jun 7 2010 6:34:54:
Are the FKS and Look Pivot bindings the exact same bindings?
yes.
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I weigh like 125lbs, Level 2-3 skier. Will FKS 140's be good for me or should I go with a lower din binding? Hitting lots of rails too. (not sure what level you would classify that as.)
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I already had a topic about what skis to get and decided to go with Look Pivot 14s or Marker Griffons/Jesters with my new Line Bacons. I was going to get the Pivots because of their praised durability but when I looked into Markers more, I managed to convince myself that they would be better for fat skis... I know this Markers acclaimed better performance with fatter skis has been discussed here too, and often said to be false. But I heard that the Pivot´s heel could rip out of fat skis easier.

So would the Pivots´/FKSs´ heelpiece rip out of fat skis easier than Markers´ heel? Have you heard anyone having this problem with fks-series bindings and fat skis?

And I´m 6´2´´ tall and weigh 170-180lbs and I like to rail high speed turns on groomers. I heard that caused someone´s fks heelpiece to rip out of a fat ski. And the Bacons are 115mm wide at the middle.

I would just like to get a binding I can trust completely, so I don´t ever have to worry about it letting me down.
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If they're mounted well it's not an issue.
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"Markers are better on fatter skis due to a wider hole pattern in the toe" : 100% False

"FKS are more prone to ripping out on fatter skis": Not really an issue if long the person mounting them knows that they're doing. As long as the ski has good construction with a wood core ect it shouldn't be a problem. I've never seen it happen and i know plenty of people with FKS on 115-130mm waisted skis.
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OK thanks, I guess I´ll just go with the pivots then and not have them mounted at the local store where they screwed up my last mount...
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Quoting Boax$ from Sep 11 2009 4:57:00:
Testing bindings at or past the upper limit, using bindings at the upper limit.

At the ends of the scale the DIN indicator might be less accurate, that's all. So a 12 DIN set at 12 might actually release like 11.5 or 12.5. Your required DIN isn't an exact science anyway; if you're setting them that high then you're not reading from a chart, you're going by retention/release as you use them.
So, I'm guessing it is safe for me and the binding to run a FKS 140 at the minimum DIN of 5? Also since FKS's have a high elasticity, does this mean you should set them lower than you would normally. (I am not setting my own bindings, I am just trying to decide what binding to get.)
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Quoting joshua from Jun 8 2010 2:57:30:
I weigh like 125lbs, Level 2-3 skier. Will FKS 140's be good for me or should I go with a lower din binding? Hitting lots of rails too. (not sure what level you would classify that as.)
Get a lower din binding. I am around 155 pounds, level 3 skier, and I ride a 12 din. You don't need a 14 din, especially at your weight.
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Quoting SweetumsUltimate Bling! from Jun 17 2010 5:27:30:
Get a lower din binding. I am around 155 pounds, level 3 skier, and I ride a 12 din. You don't need a 14 din, especially at your weight.
i had the same question as Sweetums the reason i am looking at fks 140 because the guide says to not go within 2 dins of the bindings max which is 14 and min which is 5
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Quoting Pudge$ from Jul 15 2010 12:56:27:
i had the same question as Sweetums the reason i am looking at fks 140 because the guide says to not go within 2 dins of the bindings max which is 14 and min which is 5
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I have just bought Line Blend 2010. And need bindings for them. Im 80kg and 188cm tall, I think DIN 12 is right for me. But the stopper must fit to the 100mm waist of the Blend :) So what do you recommend?
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what size binding do you recommend for a pair of ep pros?  i have looked at the rossi freeski2 in size 100mm and 120mm...?
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Quoting CarverJShaw from Sep 19 2010 12:01:41:
what size binding do you recommend for a pair of ep pros?  i have looked at the rossi freeski2 in size 100mm and 120mm...?
there is no such thing as different sized bindings, only different sized brakes, if you honestly can't figure out what size brake to get you might have some issues
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has marker made any changes to the Jester over the past couple years?

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hi..I'm 6.0 feet tall and I weigh 215 lbs.. would salomon STH 12 work for me? I'm a level 1 skier. Its a 12 din binding..
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i have 4frnt deadbolts, griffons, and sth's all 12's. someone hooked me up with the the salomons and the griffons, they're both new new so i haven't tried them yet but i was wondering the differences? pro's con's to each? looking to see which to put on my park ski and which for pow. thanks
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Quoting BaltoUltimate Bling! from Mar 23 2010 12:21:01:
no, no they are not. every friend I have who has had jesters and skis hard hates them, they pre-release often, the heal can completely slide off the track in a crash
the forward pressure is wrong if you are rereleasing, a good shop should fix this asap. if they claim it is right and it ain't find a new shop. If the heal slides off get a warrantee. Use your shop that is why they are there.
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I feel really bad for everyone who is asking questions as to what binding is good etc. It is a failure of the ski industry that you can't go to a shop and get this information.

I would say this to everyone who has questions that a shop for some reason can't answer. Contact the MFG. of the product.


Do not run your bindings at max ever or anything close i've heard 3/4 should be max. so a binding with a max of 12 shouldn't go much past 8 and never past 10
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This may be a dumb question, but I bought a pair of domains and im looking into putting a pair of fks 140s on them. They have a 90mm waste and the fks 140 L has 90mm brakes. Will the L size work with these skis? I'm worried about whether or not the there will be contact between the brake and ski.
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Quoting ataraxia from Nov 3 2010 3:32:36:
This may be a dumb question, but I bought a pair of domains and im looking into putting a pair of fks 140s on them. They have a 90mm waste and the fks 140 L has 90mm brakes. Will the L size work with these skis? I'm worried about whether or not the there will be contact between the brake and ski.
Yes, they will fit fine, brakes are often a few mm wider than indicated anyway. Regardless, you can always tweak out them a bit if needed.
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How much lighter are Marker squires compared to Look px 12 jibs?


sorry if this question has been answered already.
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Can bindings slide around after they've been mounted to accommodate a different boot size than they were originally intended for? My old bsl was 300 I think and If i get new boots I feel like it'll be slightly less. 
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Quoting a_pla5tic_bag from Nov 18 2010 8:32:16:
Can bindings slide around after they've been mounted to accommodate a different boot size than they were originally intended for? My old bsl was 300 I think and If i get new boots I feel like it'll be slightly less. 
Depends on the binding, how far back they on the track they were when mounted ect. Also consider than it will move your mount location on your ski by the size difference.
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I have salomon somethings. I don't remember and I can't check cause m skis are at home. But say I need to make the area where I put my boot 1mm longer, couldn't I just move each one .5mm to retain the same mounting position?
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so about a week ago i got my k2 extremes back from the shop; they were being mounted with marker griffons. i am 5'9, 145 pounds and a type 3 skier. the shop set my din at 5?! that just seems way too low. doing nose presses on the carpet they have ejected because of forward pressure. also, i have my head mojos at around 7.5-8 because i had problems with them popping out doing 270s on. i'm heading up to killington this Wednesday and don't want to have to spend the entire first day ejecting everywhere cause my dins are set at 5. i think it would be safe to set them around 6.5, can anybody confirm this?
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Last year I tore my ACL while stopping (i was going fast) and am 3 months away from skiing.  I have '02 madtrix with '99 Tyrolia TD8 (din 3-11) which are set at 7, and if you know the binding, have a heel piece that can rotate.  When I was about 80% stopped and then my knee gave out.  I did tweak it a few years back so that helped it go.  So my questions are:  a) do you think my bindings failed me and should have released if there was that much pressure? b) I am going to get some new bindings, so what are the most ACL friendly ones on the market?  To me a heel piece that can rotate is safest so that I am not limited to just forward pressure.  Am I wrong in that assumption?
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i wanna know what binding to mount on my moment rockers, i use a 14 or 15 din binding and i dont know id this affects ur opinion but i ski 30% park 50% all mountain and 20% pow.
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terriffic thread thanks this helps alot
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hey,im 5'10 and 150 lbs. i ski about 85% park. i want a light but durable binding what is the best binding for me?
thanks.
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Quoting jakobk from Dec 17 2010 6:34:52:
hey,im 5'10 and 150 lbs. i ski about 85% park. i want a light but durable binding what is the best binding for me?
thanks.
when it comes to bindings you must choose from the following: 1. expensive, durable, heavy/somewhat heavy
2. cheap, not durable, light

light and durable don't really go together because what makes a binding durable is metal. more durable = more metal = more expensive.

what you should do is go to your shop and ask them what your DIN would be given your height, weight, age, skier type, and boot sole length. Your DIN is a result of these factors and it will let you know what DIN range bindings you should check out. For example, if you are a 6 for a DIN, buying a STH 16 won't work for you since it starts at 9.
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Quoting onenerdykidUltimate Bling! from Dec 18 2010 2:00:06:
when it comes to bindings you must choose from the following: 1. expensive, durable, heavy/somewhat heavy
2. cheap, not durable, light

light and durable don't really go together because what makes a binding durable is metal. more durable = more metal = more expensive.

what you should do is go to your shop and ask them what your DIN would be given your height, weight, age, skier type, and boot sole length. Your DIN is a result of these factors and it will let you know what DIN range bindings you should check out. For example, if you are a 6 for a DIN, buying a STH 16 won't work for you since it starts at 9.
i got some rossis today 12 dins.
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I ride these shitty old marker bindings and they are sooper light weight and tread for urban jibbin and park.
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Salomon Sth 14 driver?
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Ok look, I'm 5'11" and 175lbs. Im trying to decide whether I should get the Griffon 12s, Jester 16s, Sth 14s, Look Pivot 14s, or the Fks 14s. I don't want to be annoying but I only ask because it seems that I fall on the border line between 12 DINs and 12+ DINs in every guide i read online!!! Half say the Griffons are fine for me, and the other half say I need to upgrade to bindings with a higher DIN setting than 12! I was just wondering if anyone could shed some insight on my situtation because I haven't a clue which way to go. BTW money is tight so if the griffons will work fine, griffons it is...

If it helps I'm 15 (so I'm still growing) and I'm an intermediate - advanced park rider. NO POW :( Ill hit every jib feature in the terrain park, however the biggest jumps ill hit at the moment are around 30 ft. (I'm progressing quickly however)

Thanks!!! Jamie (Fergalishiouz Sorcerers Prods.)

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Griffins are the way to go. They're ignant
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Just gonna say... Rosignol Freeski 100's are an AMAZING binding for anyone under 150 lbs. After months of stomping on the backs to hike urban and park, they're still holding up great. I'm 125 lbs, and I've never pre-released. Sometimes though, the DIN feels higher then it is, so set it .5-1 lower than usual, just to be safe.
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This guide is pretty thorough, and spot on. But...

I think it is very important to consider the minimum DIN values as well as the maximum. I ski my 18 DIN Head bindings at 10. I could easily use the 15 din version, and be exactly in the middle of the range, but I went with the heavier, more durable 18 din version for durability sake.

And in case anyone is wondering... skiing at the bottom of the DIN range is fine. But only if a properly performed release test confirms reliability and accuracy.
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Quoting happygaper$ from Jan 2 2011 3:49:18:
Ok look, I'm 5'11" and 175lbs. Im trying to decide whether I should get the Griffon 12s, Jester 16s, Sth 14s, Look Pivot 14s, or the Fks 14s. I don't want to be annoying but I only ask because it seems that I fall on the border line between 12 DINs and 12+ DINs in every guide i read online!!! Half say the Griffons are fine for me, and the other half say I need to upgrade to bindings with a higher DIN setting than 12! I was just wondering if anyone could shed some insight on my situtation because I haven't a clue which way to go. BTW money is tight so if the griffons will work fine, griffons it is...
If it helps I'm 15 (so I'm still growing) and I'm an intermediate - advanced park rider. NO POW :( Ill hit every jib feature in the terrain park, however the biggest jumps ill hit at the moment are around 30 ft. (I'm progressing quickly however)
Thanks!!! Jamie (Fergalishiouz Sorcerers Prods.)
well you could just buy the 14 din and have the option to set it higher if you end up needing to; you don't want to have to buy another pair of bindings because the pair you have aren't burly enough.
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what are your thoughts on marker squires?
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good thread thanks
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Quoting sskier from Feb 8 2011 5:10:52:
what are your thoughts on marker squires?
any body?
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Thansk for this sweet guide helped me out alot!

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Any reccomendations for bindings if I weigh about 94ish lb.
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Quoting nikoosh from Apr 5 2011 8:37:34:
Any reccomendations for bindings if I weigh about 94ish lb.
rossignol free ski 100
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hey
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Quoting sskier from Feb 8 2011 5:10:52:
what are your thoughts on marker squires?
Plastic crap man. The Griffons are already a gamble as it is, so if you are actually considering the squires then upgrade to the griffons. Don't let the "cool colors" of the squires fool you. They seem more geared to the young grom or something (which I don't think you are?) Personally I just wish Marker would make a metal heel piece for the griffon so alot of us lighter skiers didn't have to waste money on the jester. More info than you asked for, but there it is!
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Quoting Miguel-L from Apr 9 2011 3:01:50:
hey
troll
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This is probably a stupid question but i really don't know the answer, can i mount my used marker griffons on a new pair of skis?
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