Could you charge a person for a crime they might comit

yeah, i was about to say minority report, what are u saying, people shouldnt go to jail?
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They dont go to jail on child molestation charges. Theyll go to jail for something else. Just like the al capone - kills 100s of people, huge drug/alcohol dealer, and goes to jail for tax evasion.

The law is really protective of minors anyways, thats why its so stringent.
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Does the kid have to get fucked BEFORE police can get involved? I'd rather be on the safe side.

Or is it innocent until proven guilty? Aarrrr.

'tis tricky stuff indeed. I need to think about this one.

ow the hell do they know what the people look liek they could be arresting innocent people.
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yeah I sorta am saying that. I know that alot of people will dissagree with me but I think that if they will charge someone with a crime as heavy as child rape (even if the kid is willing) they should either be caught in the act or after the act. not before the act.

your a fucking retard.
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once they touch the kid in a sexual manner, then BAM, tackle him and nail his ass to the asphalt.

Like a virgin on prom night

You can go on the bottom bunk and finish it yourself

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the police could get involved to keep the kids safe but they should wait until they are sure that the guy wants to go through with the act. just the fact that he came to the meeting place means nothing. and also alot of these people have no criminal record and no current crime (other than trafic tikets) yet they are still sent to jail. I finished a research project on this and alot of times its very unfair.

^^wow, just.. wow, enough kids get raped, and may more we will never know about beforee they come forward. you heartless asshole, eventually it will touch your family, and you better pray to God taht its BEFORe the act. so what youre saying is that a guy should get away with child sex because he was too stupid to succeed in his endeavor. wow, people like you actually scare me. child sex is nothing to play with, thousands of children are raped all the time. guys that molest and rape children are the worst scum on the earth, and they dont do it to one child, they can do things to HUNDREDS of children. murders are not as evil as these men, its not something to be questioned.

what kind of man poses as a child and says theyre going to meet a child, IF THEYRE NOT PERVS????

you sicken me
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I mean im sure alot of them would go through with the act but even if ONE would back off or maybe wanted to meet the kid and just be nice to the kid or something it ould be wrong to arrest him assuming he would do the same as the others.

that as soon as he touches the child in a sexual way he gets tackled idea is exactly what I was talking about when I said wait until he is in the act. I didnt mean penetration

If you go on for a long peroid of time talking about how you are going to have sex with little kids, then it is probably going to happen. It's better safe than sorry.

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aggro_sk8: just because I dont beleive that all people who could commit a crime would does not make me a heartless asshole. having your life ruined because you could do something is one of the worst things that can happen. not only are you sent to jail but you are also treated like the child molesters and rapists that actually comit the crime (which is pretty badly as ive heard.)

I dont wish that any kid go through getting raped or molested but I dont think anyone should go to jail for something that they could have done.

the whole arresting the person as their undressing themselves or undressing the kid or touching the kid is not too damaging to the child and makes the police 100% sure they got their guy.

I have taken many classes dealing with issues such as this.... Answer is Yes they can nail you...If they have the evidence, they can easily prove you had the motive to commit the crime....Thats why you always need to watch your back and what your saying, because there is always an enemy of yours out there that will want to cause harm to your lifestyle...

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^^um yeah, once the guy has the kid, the kids screwed, it would be horrible for a kid to be used as 'bait' wow, do you know anything. being undressed or watching a perv undress or being touched inappropraite can be horrible for a child, and the whoile tackling idea, BAD!!!, what perv is gonna do that to a child in public?

you know nothing do you?

maybe its more motivation for perfectly normal 40 year old men to stop pretending theyre children to be nice to a child theyve randomly met over the internet (kinda sounds stupid when you put it into perspective)
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if anyone is soliciting sex from a minor they should be shot, and so should you for making such a dumb thread. how can you possibly feel this way aoubt this topic, its almost unthinkable how someone could be this way...
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Very true..and when i said that you need to watch your back..>I didn't mean it in the way most of you took it. I meant that no one should do somthing stupid as a joke..because it will come back to haunt you...As for older men soliciting sex to minors..Yes they should be strapped to a cement wall and ill tee up a few ProV1's and use my 9.5 Taylor Made 510 with a speeder shaft and see how they feel after about 10 swings....

I don't think Joe is getting this. The point:

If some guy says, over the internet, 'It'd be cool to meet in real life' to say, a 16 year old, and has intentions only to meet that person and talk to them, or hang out, they can be arrested with no further evidence. It'd just be hard to convict them with only that. The problem is that if you've talked to someone over the internet long enough, it's not hard to find something that a jury will interpret as being implicitly sexual in the right context. I know a guy who's 24 who talks to teenagers all the time via web forums, and he's constantly suspected of being a pervert and a paedophile. He completely isn't, but there are people who know him solely from the internet who would testify to the contrary. The point is: protecting the kids comes first, but this really is a problem area for wrongful convictions, and a MAJOR one. Threadstarter is very right in observing that.

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yes, the creator of the thread and you as well J.D. are completely right. the other people who posted negatively just don't get what he meant i don't think. it is very wrong to send someone to jail for something that they haven't done, even though what they are being accused of is seriously disturbing and illegal.

yup JD got exaclty what I was talking about 100%

I understand that this is a touchy topic, but try to keep in mind that these are extremely serious charges and WILL damage someone for the rest of their life. If they are convicted of it, they will be branded and it can ruin their lives. Not only through their time in jail, but they will have to register as a sex offender. Do you know what that does to you?

I agree in that the judicial system needs change. There are still many areas where people are guilty until proven innocent.

If a woman screams rape, even if she was involved in consensual sex and has alterior motives, that man is labeled guilty and has to spend thousands of dollars and countless hours to prove his innocent. -which even if he does prove, he has now been branded and there will always be those who say he got away with it.

Here's a real life scenario of this : A friend of my family spent many years in prison. He told me about a guy he had met in there. That man used to live a respectable life. He had a great family and had a job working for the government. Now, he had spent the last 7 years in prison. He lost his job, his family, his life. On top of that, he was given hell by the jail guards and many people he came in contact with.

How? Because several women pointed him out and said that he was the man that was responsible for all of them being raped at different times.

After those 7 years, more rapes began happening and in the same manner as before. Police caught the culprit. Those several women then told police that they made a mistake. This was the real culprit for their rapes.

Now, where's the justice in that? There is nothing in this world that could repay that man for his loss.

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Ok the way they bust them is they tell them they want to meet to have SEX, set up a meeting and wait till they show up. Its not like they charge them purely on chatting with a few young kids on line. JD ur friend may be suspected but never convicted Why? because he isnt one and doesnt meet the kids for sex, its just precaution, I dont care what u tell me what u show me or how bad it will ruin their rep,lives or career, If u actually went ahead and met with a 15 year old noy to have sex then u should be put in prison period.




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but even if they say lets meet and have sex and show up they get greeted by the FBI how is the FBI to know that if when they show up and see a kid sitting where he/she should be he wouldnt just give her a speech about the dangers of the internet and try to make her understand the dangers of chatting with strangers online. or if he did want to have sex with the kid he might just walk away.

i understand your point but that's just messed up. there are many less creepy methods of getting the ''don't talk to strangers'' message out there. you don't have to meet some kid one on one.