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Vishnu vs ON3P

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weastcoat
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What's better? Durability is a big factor for me.
Apr 14 2017 7:49PM
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K-Dot.
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both are shit brands, there's a reason no one ever talks about them on this site
Apr 14 2017 7:59PM
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Shoey-Ski
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Bothare extremely different, on3ps are fairly bomb proof, I've ridden my magnus for half a season and the bases look brand new, that being said they do have 2 edge cracks but that's normal to park skis. On3p is also a bigger brand that isn't just starting out so they have a wider selection of skis, on3ps are also fairly stiff and slightly heavier than normal skis,(however for me I never noticed any difference in swing weight) you can also customize their skis to make them softer if need be. Vishnu however is fairly new and makes one ski that is very soft and looks super surfy and fun, I can't speak on durability (I haven't ridden any) so basically they are both great brands that have great skis, but it depends on what is best for you, you cant go wrong with either.
Apr 14 2017 8:08PM
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AGOF
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Made in portland or vs made in China.
Not important to everyone, but explains the price difference
Apr 14 2017 9:11PM
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Cadenmccullough
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All I know is the filthy rich's I had last season were probably my favorite skis I have owned.
Apr 14 2017 10:20PM
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Swandog7
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Vishnu has to be one of the best value skis out there. Ive seen them last surprisingly well, especially for a small start up company. I would say that there is no reason to decide between the two companies as they make really different skis unless you are comparing the Wet and the FR or Magnus. Both are dope companies, don't hesitate to support either.
Apr 15 2017 12:43AM
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.lencon
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ON3P is probably more durable, nothing against Vishnu. But ON3P has been around longer and has some more experience. Also my ON3Ps have held up very well.

No personal experience with Vishnu
Apr 15 2017 12:56AM
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Lemuel
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For some reason people don't like to believe the article / review I wrote on the Vishnus. 35+ days of hitting rails and 0 edge cracks. And one scratch on the topsheet. No peeling, no delay, no chips out of the sides. I'm not BSing, I couldn't believe how well they looked after skiing them for that long. The Dimes that Revision sent me, those blew up in my closet. The Vandal 2.0's that Majesty sent me (I'll have a roof box / review soon) are awesome skis but I have about 10 edge cracks with only a handful more days than I put on the Wets. Vishnu is the real deal.
Apr 15 2017 9:12AM
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Brocka_Flocka
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I've been riding my buddy's Vishnus the past few days and they are fucking noodles. I personally think they're too soft but for the right skier they're probably fine.


This is also coming from someone who rides 2x4s.
Apr 15 2017 11:55AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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LemuelFor some reason people don't like to believe the article / review I wrote on the Vishnus. 35+ days of hitting rails and 0 edge cracks. And one scratch on the topsheet. No peeling, no delay, no chips out of the sides. I'm not BSing, I couldn't believe how well they looked after skiing them for that long. The Dimes that Revision sent me, those blew up in my closet. The Vandal 2.0's that Majesty sent me (I'll have a roof box / review soon) are awesome skis but I have about 10 edge cracks with only a handful more days than I put on the Wets. Vishnu is the real deal.


My guess is that you're just one person with one review of Vishnu vs the numerous reviews of ON3Ps
Apr 15 2017 1:49PM
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Mr.Bishop
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.MASSHOLE.My guess is that you're just one person with one review of Vishnu vs the numerous reviews of ON3Ps

Lemuel actually was part of our review team for a few years. Can definitely confirm he knows his stuff.
Apr 15 2017 2:34PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Mr.BishopLemuel actually was part of our review team for a few years. Can definitely confirm he knows his stuff.


That may be the case, but most people (me included) don't know that/are skeptical given that it's just one person and everyone treats gear differently.

Still, it'd be sweet if Vishnu could get the same rep. as oN3P
Apr 15 2017 2:36PM
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Mr.Bishop
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.MASSHOLE.That may be the case, but most people (me included) don't know that/are skeptical given that it's just one person and everyone treats gear differently.

Still, it'd be sweet if Vishnu could get the same rep. as oN3P

Fair enough. We're going to have a lot more testing coming out over the summer and a growing test program so we'll be sure to include more tests.

I havent skied on them yet personally, though I think I should give it a shot.
Apr 15 2017 2:37PM
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BWalmer
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Durability will be about the same (from what I've heard and can gather from construction specs) - I'd give the slight edge to ON3P just because of the experience they have in the ski building field.

The biggest difference is really going to be stiffness. Depending on the model, ON3P is going to have either a slightly more stable platform (Magnus) to a far more stable platform (Kartel models). The Vishnu Wet is a very soft ski with some pretty excessive hing points in the tip and tail, while the elliptical rocker profile of the ON3Ps will be smoother and even in the flex. I haven't ridden the Wet, but based on flex, I'd bet that the Magnus and Kartel 98 will both hold an edge better under speed as well.
Apr 15 2017 6:57PM
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BirtDike
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On3p
Apr 15 2017 9:27PM
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Swandog7
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Mr.BishopFair enough. We're going to have a lot more testing coming out over the summer and a growing test program so we'll be sure to include more tests.

I havent skied on them yet personally, though I think I should give it a shot.


If you're ever looking for some more gear testers, shoot me a pm. Been trying to for the last 2 seasons.
Apr 16 2017 12:03AM
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BWalmer
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Swandog7If you're ever looking for some more gear testers, shoot me a pm. Been trying to for the last 2 seasons.


The program was kind of phased out. It's basically just Twig now. That being said, if it does come back, the best way to get on the team is to have a ton of high quality reviews written, so just review anything and everything you can get your hands on.
Apr 16 2017 7:29AM
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ItsyaboiHUCK
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Yeah we can pick at both company's to see who's better but right now either brand is the right brand to support these days
Apr 16 2017 1:13PM
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Swandog7
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BWalmerThe program was kind of phased out. It's basically just Twig now. That being said, if it does come back, the best way to get on the team is to have a ton of high quality reviews written, so just review anything and everything you can get your hands on.


Gotcha thanks
Apr 16 2017 1:55PM
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Lemuel
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BWalmerThe biggest difference is really going to be stiffness. Depending on the model, ON3P is going to have either a slightly more stable platform (Magnus) to a far more stable platform (Kartel models). The Vishnu Wet is a very soft ski with some pretty excessive hing points in the tip and tail, while the elliptical rocker profile of the ON3Ps will be smoother and even in the flex. I haven't ridden the Wet, but based on flex, I'd bet that the Magnus and Kartel 98 will both hold an edge better under speed as well.


They are definitely not as soft as touted (Hg used to claim softest ski on the market, skied on both in the same year, neither are even close to being as soft as a lot of other skis). There is no "hinge" point like on invaders or anthems either. I've never skied on ON3P so I can't comment on the differences between the two brands. I will say that the Wet is more stable than the Soul Rider if that gives people an idea that it's not as soft as claimed. It is extremely playful but that's because the the 3 stage rocker-esque design.

Not everyone is ever going to love one ski, I get that. As long as you land directly underfoot on any size jump, you won't wash out. Skis with more rocker will certainly be looser, but I would not be afraid of the Wet if you are someone who likes to hit jumps but is mainly focused on rails and jibbing.
Apr 16 2017 6:26PM
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BWalmer
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LemuelI will say that the Wet is more stable than the Soul Rider if that gives people an idea that it's not as soft as claimed. It is extremely playful but that's because the the 3 stage rocker-esque design.


That's interesting that they're more stable the the SR, I always heard people complain that those aren't as soft as Kieran made them look so they would ask how to break them in. I was basing my info off of what the co pant has promoted in the past and from what I've heard by others who have ridden them (and other skis I know, such as the Magnus). I guess I misunderstood what I was told about the ski, people told me they have a "hinge point" I didn't realize that meant 3 stage rockerish (not something advertised anywhere - probably due to Surface's branding). Thanks for giving me more accurate information.
Apr 16 2017 6:34PM
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spushkin
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I'd really recommend ON3P. My Vishnu's delayed after 5 days of skiing in Breck, no park or anything. Literally just skiing the seven trails that were open the first week of December. They denied my warranty then. The delam got really really bad and the edge starting coming out mid season. They're completely ruined now. They couldn't do anything to help me wither because they don't make their skis and they had no money or skis to offer me to warranty.


The quality from ON3P is just unmatched by Vishnu. Vishnu's skis are really fun and very soft, but I'd really spend the extra money and get the good quality ski made in the US.
Apr 26 2017 7:50AM
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Deepskier
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spushkinI'd really recommend ON3P. My Vishnu's delayed after 5 days of skiing in Breck, no park or anything. Literally just skiing the seven trails that were open the first week of December. They denied my warranty then. The delam got really really bad and the edge starting coming out mid season. They're completely ruined now. They couldn't do anything to help me wither because they don't make their skis and they had no money or skis to offer me to warranty.


The quality from ON3P is just unmatched by Vishnu. Vishnu's skis are really fun and very soft, but I'd really spend the extra money and get the good quality ski made in the US.


Pics or it didnt happen.
Apr 27 2017 11:04AM
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K-Dot.
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spushkinMy Vishnu's delayed after 5 days of skiing in Breck, no park or anything. Literally just skiing the seven trails that were open the first week of December. They denied my warranty then. The delam got really really bad and the edge starting coming out mid season. They're completely ruined now.


I'm not saying you're lying but your instagram seems to tell a different story. One where your skis are still laminated all season and you tag vishnu in your posts as if you like them.

Like deepskier said, pics or it didn't happen
Apr 27 2017 11:52AM
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Kalispelljim
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spushkinI'd really recommend ON3P. My Vishnu's delayed after 5 days of skiing in Breck, no park or anything. Literally just skiing the seven trails that were open the first week of December. They denied my warranty then. The delam got really really bad and the edge starting coming out mid season. They're completely ruined now. They couldn't do anything to help me wither because they don't make their skis and they had no money or skis to offer me to warranty.


The quality from ON3P is just unmatched by Vishnu. Vishnu's skis are really fun and very soft, but I'd really spend the extra money and get the good quality ski made in the US.




Apr 27 2017 1:28PM
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Young_patty
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Real talk, both have good durability. However while vishnus are very soft and noodley on3ps are going to be stiffer more beefier.
Apr 27 2017 2:15PM
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CalebBX
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Yeah I personally ride Vishnus. And I ride them hard. They are one of the most bomb proof ski I have ever ridden, and super light. However stability might be a issue on big stuff. They are also by far some of the softest skis I've ever ridden (which makes them super fun btw).
Apr 27 2017 4:10PM
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broto
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not sure why everyone thinks you can't hit big jumps w vishnus




A post shared by VISHNU SKIS (@vishnufreeski) on Jan 19, 2017 at 6:52pm PST
May 1 2017 4:02PM
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.lencon
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brotonot sure why everyone thinks you can't hit big jumps w vishnus




A post shared by VISHNU SKIS (@vishnufreeski) on Jan 19, 2017 at 6:52pm PST


everyone thinks soft skis suck. If you dont like them.. good for you. But really if you are a good skier you can do a lot with a soft ski.
May 1 2017 4:24PM
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CalebBX
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.lenconeveryone thinks soft skis suck. If you dont like them.. good for you. But really if you are a good skier you can do a lot with a soft ski.


Exactly I ride Vishnus and I'm not saying they are made for big jumps, but if you know where to land you can do anything on them. Check out some of their park edits, they hit 30s and 40s np.
May 6 2017 12:35AM
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Kundera
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Are the Wet lighter than the Magnus ? Do we know the weight of the Wet in 183 ?
May 11 2017 1:16PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Swandog7If you're ever looking for some more gear testers, shoot me a pm. Been trying to for the last 2 seasons.


BWalmerThe program was kind of phased out. It's basically just Twig now. That being said, if it does come back, the best way to get on the team is to have a ton of high quality reviews written, so just review anything and everything you can get your hands on.

We're definitely going to be bringing all of this back for next year. The idea wasn't to phase it out - it was to revamp it and give a lot of resources to the best folk.

However admittely that led us to not put enough effort into the programs.

As bwalmer said though, you should try writing up some ski reviews. Twig is going to be looking for people to join the team next year.

This is discussion should move to the content contributors forum if you want more info!
May 12 2017 7:27AM
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