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jmellberg800my ultimate goal would be to live and work at mt hood in oregon. Whistler would be sick to. I basically just want to live in a ski town and stay in the industry my whole life. A buisness degree in general is starting to look like a good idea as I might be able to work for an actual ski company. I know on3p is based in oregon so that could be awesome as well
theabortionatorI mean, you can get a job doing just about anything as an in to a ski resort, kill it, and move on and up from there. Maybe you work as a lifty the first year, then try and work into snowmaking or grooming or something. Then work your way up and put in time and do a good job. If you work well and take opportunities you can get your hands into a little bit of everything at a ski area in a few years. Obviously depends on where you work and what you're looking for.
Just saying that job experience is pretty important. It also matters what you take out of the program to determine if it's worth the $ I guess. If you have experience and solid references for a job, the ski industry really doesn't give a fuck if you have a degree related to any of it.
That said if you want to run a ski area it could be quite helpful. I'm pretty sure most of those programs cross train you a bit in different areas. That said if you work different jobs at a ski area and get a feel for things, kill it with your work ethic, you can def snag a management position.
The more different jobs you can do at a ski area the better. Maybe you're a snowmaker but you're sick as fuck at that, you can also groom, you've taught some lessons, you have marketing skills, maybe put out good photo and video content, and have some maintenance skills.
Especially at the smaller ski areas this can be ridiculously useful to the resort, and you getting a good job. Maybe one of the guys didn't show up, or got hurt and can't groom for a night or two. Idk. I haven't slept in like 2 days, but the biggest thing imo is experience and if possible, experience in as many areas as possible.
jmellberg800The website is implying climate change is a scam so obviously its a biased source but that dosent mean it cant bring good arguments to the table. Im not saying climate change is a complete hoax im just saying that to me it seems to be blown out of proportion. The amount of rescources being used has slowed down while the population has continued to grow. That means we are using things more efficiently. The average temperature of the world has not gone up by even 2% in the last 100 years. Scientists have found ways to replace ozone in the atmosphere as well, these are just a few arguments one could make. Im not making the argument that we can just pump what ever we want into the atmosphere and eveything will be fine. Im
making the argument that with the advancement of technology and regulations, I do not see a way for our climate to change so drastically that it will nearly wipe out the entire skiing industry.
jmellberg800I have 3 years of rental shop experience and will be working in the tuning shop. also doing some demos with rossignol. Not expecting to be manager of the whole hill but manager like the rental shop or or some other department is a goal.
theabortionatorI mean, you can get a job doing just about anything as an in to a ski resort, kill it, and move on and up from there. Maybe you work as a lifty the first year, then try and work into snowmaking or grooming or something. Then work your way up and put in time and do a good job. If you work well and take opportunities you can get your hands into a little bit of everything at a ski area in a few years. Obviously depends on where you work and what you're looking for.
Just saying that job experience is pretty important. It also matters what you take out of the program to determine if it's worth the $ I guess. If you have experience and solid references for a job, the ski industry really doesn't give a fuck if you have a degree related to any of it.
That said if you want to run a ski area it could be quite helpful. I'm pretty sure most of those programs cross train you a bit in different areas. That said if you work different jobs at a ski area and get a feel for things, kill it with your work ethic, you can def snag a management position.
The more different jobs you can do at a ski area the better. Maybe you're a snowmaker but you're sick as fuck at that, you can also groom, you've taught some lessons, you have marketing skills, maybe put out good photo and video content, and have some maintenance skills.
Especially at the smaller ski areas this can be ridiculously useful to the resort, and you getting a good job. Maybe one of the guys didn't show up, or got hurt and can't groom for a night or two. Idk. I haven't slept in like 2 days, but the biggest thing imo is experience and if possible, experience in as many areas as possible.
jmellberg800that makes sense. Maybe a major in buisness with a minor im sam would be the best. considering ski area management isnt a 4 year course
CaptainObvious.Yes. All of this yes. Your industry experience is what's going to set you up.
This would be a good idea, but I would do it at a uni that allows you to work part time at a resort. Multiple resorts even better. If you can walk away with those two things you'll be set pretty well. Especially if you kill it with your part time job and make sure the right people know your aspirations when you graduate.
Networking is a real thing.
RRhighriderI have friends that have gone that route and most of them have a second job. Going to school will do nothing to help you move up in a shop. People who are able to make shop work last get into the tuning and boot fitting aspects during the winter and have another specialty like fly fishing during the summer. The more knowledge you have in different areas of the shop the more opportunity you have to work. I don't know what type of shop you work in now but ask questions to the older guys and make yourself valuable outside of doing rentals.
jmellberg800I understand the connection thing. when i talked to the rep about doing demos he mentioned setting me up with a job when i move out west. so a full time job at rossignol or maybe a part time job as well as another part time job during the winters seems to be like a great idea. i gotta do more research to see what mountain would be closest to my college or where ill be living
jmellberg800my ultimate goal would be to live and work at mt hood in oregon. Whistler would be sick to. I basically just want to live in a ski town and stay in the industry my whole life. A buisness degree in general is starting to look like a good idea as I might be able to work for an actual ski company. I know on3p is based in oregon so that could be awesome as well
yangumanethere's a school called Sierra Nevada College on the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe that has a Ski Area Business Management program and so does Northern Michigan University if you want to get into the business aspect of it
SconnieHave you considered mechanical engineering? I've heard that lift maintenance isn't a bad gig. Lots of time for skiing, but when a lift does break down, theres a big weight on your shoulders. Just putting that out there. Working in the industry would be chill, but that doesn't automatically mean that you would get to ski a lot. Reps and people working in sales are busy as fuck.
Also, hit me up if you (or some other locals) need somebody to film and take pics at Granite this year. I'm looking to get more into action photography before I head out west. See you out there, man.
californiagrownYeah priorities change as you mature. Give yourself options. Pursue what you love, but don't pigeon hole yourself.
Also, please shoot a little higher than rental shop manager as a lifetime career goal.
hippy.this too..big money in lift shit
jmellberg800thats just for a job right at a college and only at a major hill. i got higher priorities than that haha
hippy.i go to SNC..OP you should PM me and we can talk and ill get you in contact with the instructor of the program, tim cohee.
jmellberg800thats just for a job right at a college and only at a major hill. i got higher priorities than that haha
Profahoben_212So you are simultaneously gunna become the manager of one of the biggest sections of a major hill while going to school? Might wanna tone it back a bit.
Personally I'd go mech. Engineering...do lift work when your are young...or you can fall back and make good money at a firm. Going to college for ski resort management is just too small of a scope imo. Not much you can do with it.
Profahoben_212So you are simultaneously gunna become the manager of one of the biggest sections of a major hill while going to school? Might wanna tone it back a bit.
Personally I'd go mech. Engineering...do lift work when your are young...or you can fall back and make good money at a firm. Going to college for ski resort management is just too small of a scope imo. Not much you can do with it.
californiagrownDo I know that name from squaw?
Thats a full time day gig... what are your bigger priorities?
Mech E is the most versatile degree you can get. Sets you up for anything.
However, based on how OP comes off in this thread, I'd be willing to bet my life savings he/she would not not make it through a semester of that major.
I would again suggest a business econ or marketing major.
jmellberg800I can asure you if I tried to I would be able to do it. just because i disagree with you on a certain topic does not mean i am stupid and you are infallable. it means we have different opinions. And btw i had an internship at an aluminum extrusion factory and worked closely with the engineers there and I do not believe it is for me. I would much rather be in buisness.
californiagrownHas nothing to do with your views on climate change (though i do think you are an idiot for that). How were you at math in high school? In AP calc i assume? did that come easily to you? Frankly, you come off as not that booksmart, and relatively unmotivated.
In any case, Engineers with degrees are not the guys doing the grunt work. we are the guys in the office telling the guys how to work. Hell, i haven't done any math higher than arithmetic since i graduated largely because i enjoy and am much better at the business aspects.
californiagrownDo I know that name from squaw?
californiagrownAre you aware ice reflects sunlight cooling the earth?
Also, what was the relative composition of the atmosphere at that period of time. What was the rate of increase/decrease of CO2 in relation to temperature? How long did these periods last? Etc.
hippy.this too..big money in lift shit
DaphHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lift Mechanics have some of the shittiest wages in correlation to the hazards of our jobs in the fucking industry. The pay is definitely not why we choose this profession.
DaphHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lift Mechanics have some of the shittiest wages in correlation to the hazards of our jobs in the fucking industry. The pay is definitely not why we choose this profession.
hippy.i was high when i said that i have zero background with lift mechanics
Gods_FatherDo you believe hurricanes are caused by man? Do you believe obamas climate plan will literally stop hurricanes from occurring?
californiagrownDa fuq? Are you high?
Gods_FatherHaha yes. I just asked because that is what Hillary and others claim.
californiagrownProof?
Gods_FatherUh use the Internet?
bdarb207I got a degree in ski resort managment from Lyndon State in Vermont. Four year, bachelors degree. I worked at a resort for a while, seasonal lifestyle gets old though. That's the most difficult part is finding a year round gig. Typically, you'll have to work your way into that at a resort so it takes a while.
That being said, you'll get a job at any resort you want for sure.
Also, the degree, at least for me wasn't useless. Even if you want to work somewhere else, they don't care they'll just see that you have a four year degree.
Going to some random shit school for business is a dime a dozen diploma. They see them all the time in hiring, at least with a SAM degree, it stands out.
Has been my experience anyway, I work in sales at a technology company now. Couldn't be further from my degree... Don't know where I was going with this.. It worked for me and all the kids I went to school with. They're all working.
californiagrownSoooo you're just spreading lies Luke a chatty Cathy cliche'd female? Got it. Shoulda never wasted my time. Smh.
californiagrownSoooo you're just spreading lies Luke a chatty Cathy cliche'd female? Got it. Shoulda never wasted my time. Smh.
jmellberg800for sure that would be cool, what would you go to school for? diesel mechanic? kinda weird but ive never thought about what kind of power a lift uses
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Gods_FatherJust did a quick Google search and found articles on both subjects on first page. You suck at the Internet...
jmellberg800The sport may be shrinking but i think it is gonna stop, things gain and lose popularity, as for the weather didnt mammoth have record snowfall this past year? Im not a big believer in all the climate change stuff. In the 60's it was global cooling, in the early 2000's it was global warming and now its climate change Its called the weather! Obviously polution and carbon emissions have something to do with it but like I said I dont completely buy in to all the weather scares. but thats just my $.02
Sneaky_AzizHey op, your two cents are fucking worthless, I fucked your mom, kill yourself, etc.
Nikolauswell as a current student in ski area operations at cmc i was gonna help you out until i realized you were retarded.
hippy.how you liking it? at SNC currently
Nikolauswell as a current student in ski area operations at cmc i was gonna help you out until i realized you were retarded.
SkiBum.Says the person going to CMC...
NikolausI love it. Cool people, 4 day weekends, and less than 40 minutes from copper, break. keystone, a basin, and cooper, super chill teachers, and the longest ski season in north america. only downside is extremely strict policies regarding alcohol and tobacco.
hippy.SNC could give a shit about any drug..sounds like an awesome time man. CMC was on my list.
NikolausI'm going to cmc because i love skiing and i want a degree related to it. I could've easily gone to any college i wanted. Besides, after my sao degree, I'm transfering to either the university of utah or simon fraser university for a bachelors in applied science or sustainability.
californiagrownAlso, interests change with age. Pigeon holing yourself in such a niche industry is shortsighted IMO.
