californiagrownSure, it's a disease. In that case you are a POS for not "taking your medicine" and curing yourself. Everyone knows what's generally healthy and what is not.
This isn't opiod or alcohol dependency. It comes down to want and lifestyle change. NOT a physical, medical dependence.
It isn't just about food, it's about exercise as well. You can be addicted to food, but then why the fuck aren't you exercising? Hard. 2 times a day.... because you are a lazy POS perhaps?
*You being used in the general.
You're right that it can be cured with hard work, better diet, and exercise, no one is denying that. No one is denying that it's stupid to "make people feel good" about their fat bodies (can't quote across pages, tried to paraphrase you). But you seem to be missing any trace of subtlety in your posts, clearly demonstrating an ignorance to other perspectives. Obesity itself is absolutely the product of learned, engrained habits, often that start at childhood. People can be dependent on those habits. And while I'm sure some obese people really are just lazy POS's, I would guess that for many it can take a lot to make the lifestyle changes required to break those habits.
Imagine if I told you that, for your health, you couldn't exercise (ski/lift/etc.) anymore and had to eat foods that made you feel bloated and sluggish. I know you from the gym thread, and if you're anything like me, you'd go insane. It's what you know and makes you feel good, so when you can't do it anymore, it sucks. You might just ignore the directive.
I'm not saying that laziness and stagnation is an equal lifestyle to being active and eating well, that'd be stupid. But I'm saying that people can go their whole life without ever learning or feeling the positivity that comes from activity/healthy eating, and so they've found it elsewhere.