they look icy, lookin to cop but not sure which one they are specifically
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TallxTlook like black ski pants. pretty sure saga, yoke, tomahawk, bloom, virtika, planks, and even the 3 years outta business lethal descent all sell black ski pants. Consider giving any of those brands a try because they need the money more than TNF does. Plus you could be skiing any given day and the owners of these companies would be right there in the park with you.