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Vail Resorts: Mountain Safety Patrol Horror Stories

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Dalley
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So recently my friend @klutched and I got written up by Mountain Safety Patrol officers for barking at them. Last Sunday near the end up the day we got waved down by Mountain Safety patrol officers at the bottom of the lift. Initially when they began talking to us they were accusing us of speeding and unsafe skiing, which we were not doing. So naturally we argued with them. This continued for around 20 minutes to the point that the wanted to write us up but the only thing they had to write us up for was the barking. By the end of the argument they were threatening to call the sheriff and have us sent to jail. We were upset and asked who to call for appeals after we presented our pass. They gave me a phone number which I called it today. The man I talked to (Todd) said that he needed my pass number to review the situation and would call me back. Within several minutes he called back and said he was going to suspend my pass for two weeks and refused to talk to me further other than essentially saying that I deserved it.

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Feb 26 2016 10:43AM
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.boz
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NMMediaAll the authority in the world? They touch you and they instantly lose any authority they had in a court. All they can do is ask nicely for your pass and hope that you will present it.
Long as you don't take 30 minutes to leave you will be gone before the cops. And if it comes to the cops, you can always play stupid... in the end you do have the pass there so you weren't doing anything illegal. What are they going to get you for exactly?

buuuuuut not my problem, in MN we do what we want and as long as we stay on our half of the hill ski patrol doesn't give a shit what we do (unless you're at hyland)


Nice concept but in reality I think it wouldn't be so easy. Imagine bombing down river run in Key or some groomer in vail with yellow jackets on your back. You get to the bottom of the run, you still gotta fly back to your car, in ski boots, assuming you don't have shit anywhere in the lodge, and then get into your car and out of the parking lot before Vail security or police can get to you. And you're gonna do this out of direct sight of employees with walkie talkies? Maybe they can't touch you, but I bet the cops would get you before you could make it out of the resort.

Best shot is losing them within the first minute of the chase and changing appearance. If they can follow you down to the bottom, you're fucked.
Feb 29 2016 2:21PM
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McNoche
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ben_collinsThis sucks, east coast ain't got this shit! Beast coast represent!


You guys "ain't got" snow either soo...
Feb 29 2016 2:37PM
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DBack1321
Posts: 410 - Karma: 485
K-Dot.You know what happens if you say you don't have a pass? Theft of service ticket right there. Ski off? They'll be waiting at the bottom and for sure pull your pass on the spot. Try to keep going? They'll call the cops. They literally have all of the authourity in the world and will fuck you sideways if you try to resist. You have no way to protect yourself from this either. They profile and bully park skiers, I've seen it too many times. Trust me, anything you think of, they have thought of too and will squash you.


Fair enough, but honestly the worst they can do is ask you to leave for the day. If you refuse then thats where the cops come in. That's better than showing them your pass and getting a two week or season suspension in my opinion.
Feb 29 2016 3:40PM
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DBack1321
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.bozNice concept but in reality I think it wouldn't be so easy. Imagine bombing down river run in Key or some groomer in vail with yellow jackets on your back. You get to the bottom of the run, you still gotta fly back to your car, in ski boots, assuming you don't have shit anywhere in the lodge, and then get into your car and out of the parking lot before Vail security or police can get to you. And you're gonna do this out of direct sight of employees with walkie talkies? Maybe they can't touch you, but I bet the cops would get you before you could make it out of the resort.

Best shot is losing them within the first minute of the chase and changing appearance. If they can follow you down to the bottom, you're fucked.


Cops get you for what exactly? You aren't breaking any law. Ski speeding is a made up crime by Vail Corp. The only thing the cops can get you for is trespassing if Vail asks you to leave and you refuse.
Feb 29 2016 3:46PM
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ABskier
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Can we please just start a massive organized campaign against them on social media?
Feb 29 2016 3:59PM
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ascent_studios
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McNocheYou guys "ain't got" snow either soo...


Haha tru this season sucks
Feb 29 2016 4:03PM
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californiagrown
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razors-chazThis one time, I was really late for getting back to work after my lunch break and so had to really step on the gas, flew down a busy run with lots of people going pretty slow and a bunch of patrol were about 2/3 of the way down and i flew past them and you know what happened?
Nothing, because it was Europe and in Europe you take responsibility for your own actions and the resorts dont pay people to pull passes. the staff are there to either make the terrain safe and pick up the pieces after crashes or run the lifts. they dont give af if you're going mach a billion in a busy zone and you know what, we get on just fine.
America has messed up priorities when it comes to services on the hill.

the most authoritative i've ever seen a patroller get was when they found a punter getting his friend group to go under the fence on a heavy closed run (light closed is closed signs + maybe a rope, heavy is full snow fence + signs) and they asked him politely to come back the other side of the fence and ski the open runs and not the bare face there were about to attempt.
I dont think i've heard of anybody having their pass pulled for anything other than renting their season pass to others.


No shit? Which vail resort was that?
Feb 29 2016 4:05PM
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NMMedia
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.bozNice concept but in reality I think it wouldn't be so easy. Imagine bombing down river run in Key or some groomer in vail with yellow jackets on your back. You get to the bottom of the run, you still gotta fly back to your car, in ski boots, assuming you don't have shit anywhere in the lodge, and then get into your car and out of the parking lot before Vail security or police can get to you. And you're gonna do this out of direct sight of employees with walkie talkies? Maybe they can't touch you, but I bet the cops would get you before you could make it out of the resort.

Best shot is losing them within the first minute of the chase and changing appearance. If they can follow you down to the bottom, you're fucked.


I mean losing them quickly, changing appearance, then dipping out would be the ideal situation. I guess I wasn't super clear. I didn't mean stop and talk to them then try and fly off and disappear, I was implying that as soon as you know they are on to you just get out of there. Those resorts are so vast it shouldn't be hard to lose them and flip your coat inside out.
Aaaand the point still stands... what are the cops going to do to you? Worst case, you still get your pass clipped. But in the end as long as you aren't trespassing without a valid season/day pass I don't believe you are doing anything illegal, even by ignoring the yellows (by all means someone correct me if I'm wrong about that).
Feb 29 2016 4:29PM
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steezburgereddie
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skiermankeep YOU safe out there. If you're skiing recklessly


do you know what website you are on?
Feb 29 2016 5:08PM
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J_Berg
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Me and my buddy always high five them and it's hilarious
Feb 29 2016 5:44PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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If they dont catch you nothing happens right? So why stop at all?
Aug 25 2018 1:32PM
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theabortionator
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BigPurpleSkiSuitIf they dont catch you nothing happens right? So why stop at all?


Aug 25 2018 1:39PM
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PB1
Posts: 98 - Karma: 660
BigPurpleSkiSuitIf they dont catch you nothing happens right? So why stop at all?


They shoot u
Aug 25 2018 7:00PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
Posts: 5980 - Karma: 8,174
I've never had to put up with this shit, as my home mountain is sick (Ruapehue)

Why don't you just boost off? Instead of pulling over....
Aug 25 2018 7:12PM
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JoeF2661
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NzeskibroI've never had to put up with this shit, as my home mountain is sick (Ruapehue)

Why don't you just boost off? Instead of pulling over....


Pump your breaks kiwi. Merica!!!
Aug 25 2018 7:39PM
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ronders_
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Here's the thing. Vail doesn't make all that much money off of season pass holders who go skiing a lot. The more you use your season pass the less profit they make off you. They make the most money off of the obscenely expensive day passes, from the people and families who go there on vacation and spend a week or less there dumping literally $10k+ just to ski groomers for a few days. So it makes perfect sense that they don't want season pass holders to have the ability to use their pass. Hence the insanely long suspensions for the smallest possible things (under the guise of "safety" of course). The goal is to get you to buy the pass then prevent you from using it as much as possible.
Aug 25 2018 10:26PM
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