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Can't seem to lay out a backflip

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Pac2
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Title says it all idk what I'm doing wrong, I've watched countless videos and have had mine recorded to try and figure out what I'm doing wrong. I can lay them out on the trampoline just fine and into the pool but it is so much different on skis and I just can't get it idk how many I've done, but I've done a lot and I still don't get it and feel like just giving up on them. for a little while it felt like I was getting close but ever since then it's been a downward slope. I would just keep doing them like this but it's not fun if you can't spot your landing early and just lay them out. This video is from one at the beginning of the season where was kind of getting them layed out but not really. The last clip is a recent one I did that just sucks. Idk what I'm doing wrong but it sucks.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/810438/Backflips
Jan 31 2016 1:29PM
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TVRNTVPOOP
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keep practicing and try off of a bigger or kickier jump
Jan 31 2016 1:32PM
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fries
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[videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaZTkLWJIhE[/video]
this helps a lot. Main thing for you is that you can't really lay it out because you dont have very much air. Dont be afraid to try it on bigger jumps
Jan 31 2016 1:36PM
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brov1
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one thats a tiny jump

two, you are to focused on getting your knees over your head pop up not back an hit a poppier bigger jump
Jan 31 2016 1:43PM
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jca
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when you set the backflip, think about popping hard and pushing your hips forward. a bigger jump/more lip will help too.
Jan 31 2016 1:43PM
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Pac2
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jcawhen you set the backflip, think about popping hard and pushing your hips forward. a bigger jump/more lip will help too.


Whenever I do this I feel like I just throw it way to hard way to early and don't get any air.
Jan 31 2016 1:47PM
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Pac2
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schjf[videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaZTkLWJIhE
this helps a lot. Main thing for you is that you can't really lay it out because you dont have very much air. Dont be afraid to try it on bigger jumps
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Was trying on about a 25 foot jump this weekend and still could seem to get it.
Jan 31 2016 1:47PM
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Pac2
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brov1one thats a tiny jump

two, you are to focused on getting your knees over your head pop up not back an hit a poppier bigger jump


Whenever I pop straight up its just really sloppy and tucked like they are here
Jan 31 2016 1:50PM
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Pac2
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schjf[videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaZTkLWJIhE
this helps a lot. Main thing for you is that you can't really lay it out because you dont have very much air. Dont be afraid to try it on bigger jumps
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Something is wrong with your video link too, i can't view it.
Jan 31 2016 1:56PM
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jca
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BrucetheSharkWhenever I do this I feel like I just throw it way to hard way to early and don't get any air.


It sounds like you're setting too early if that happens. Think about popping straight up before setting the flip. The same thing used to happen to me for a bit after learning backflips, especially off flatter take offs on smaller jumps/cliffs. Thinking about an exaggerated pop straight up then looking back and pushing the hips forward really helped me.
Jan 31 2016 1:56PM
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fries
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schjf[videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaZTkLWJIhE
this helps a lot. Main thing for you is that you can't really lay it out because you dont have very much air. Dont be afraid to try it on bigger jumps
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Well. that didn't work...
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/774908/How-to-do-a-GOOD-backflip-on-skis
Jan 31 2016 2:00PM
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Pac2
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jcaIt sounds like you're setting too early if that happens. Think about popping straight up before setting the flip. The same thing used to happen to me for a bit after learning backflips, especially off flatter take offs on smaller jumps/cliffs. Thinking about an exaggerated pop straight up then looking back and pushing the hips forward really helped me.


This seems like good advice, I definitely noticed when I tried them last on a bigger jump that when I waited on the take off I overshot the jump rather than barely clearing it when I was throwing the backflip early. Obviously I wanna hit the sweet spot on the landing but it made me
Realize that waiting on the take off gave you much more air.
Jan 31 2016 2:06PM
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Joshskier_
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You're sort of absorbing the jump. If you focus on pushing you're shins on the front of you're boots, then exploding off the jump it will be much easier. Also, find a bigger jump that ones pretty small.
Jan 31 2016 3:37PM
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TheBigApple
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It is because you are hitting jumps built for ants.
Jan 31 2016 6:03PM
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LamSobinsky
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dude you need a bigger jump;)
Feb 1 2016 5:22PM
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brendonralph
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I need help tucking backflips since I can only lay them out...
Feb 1 2016 5:44PM
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JAHn
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Yeah, like people are saying, lots of shin pressure, pop up, push hips forward and keep em forward the whole time. When I learned to lay them out I would pop up and forward a little like I was setting for a gainer on a tramp. It actually worked really well.
Feb 1 2016 11:38PM
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.CJ.
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brendonralphI need help tucking backflips since I can only lay them out...


I don't see a problem here.
Feb 1 2016 11:47PM
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Pac2
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JAHnYeah, like people are saying, lots of shin pressure, pop up, push hips forward and keep em forward the whole time. When I learned to lay them out I would pop up and forward a little like I was setting for a gainer on a tramp. It actually worked really well.


That actually makes sense I'm gonna try that too.
Feb 2 2016 1:19PM
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mhue
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Aye Sunday River
Feb 3 2016 1:28PM
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Aparker
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Bigger jump
Feb 4 2016 10:59AM
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brendonralph
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.CJ.I don't see a problem here.


no problem till it's a 2 foot jump
Feb 4 2016 11:39AM
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Literature
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jcaIt sounds like you're setting too early if that happens. Think about popping straight up before setting the flip. The same thing used to happen to me for a bit after learning backflips, especially off flatter take offs on smaller jumps/cliffs. Thinking about an exaggerated pop straight up then looking back and pushing the hips forward really helped me.


^This.

When you spin, you lead with your hand and shoulder and eyes.

When you flip, you lead with your head and hips and eyes.

With more air, you'll be able to pop, push your hips forward, and drag your feet until you see the landing. Then, you can either hang or pull your core and feet in to bring it around. You'll know how to do it.
Feb 4 2016 11:46AM
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