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Hugh_Conway_jrCAST is build on the notion that Pin bindings are not reliable enough ... maybe this was true in 2010 ... but its 2016 son!
The Beast and the Kingpin now fill the hole in the Pin binding market for High din binders. Even the G3 Ion is a solid contender.
I personally ride ions, and since swapping out the heal piece with the 2016 update, I have had no issue with them (that fix was for uphill performance ... that being said, it depends on the level of performance you are looking for.... how hard do you really huck your meat? now, there is a difference in the release style..so that may appeal to you more.
patagonialukeThe CAST system caught my interest not only due to the fact that you get alpine binding downhill performance when touring (which may not be a big deal anymore due to said advancements in tech bindings) but also because I will likely be splitting my time between resort and BC, so the idea of being able to have full on alpine binding when I want was appealing. I am just getting started as far as BC goes so I'll probably be doing mostly resort skiing for the first season or so.
cydwhitAs for the Ions, hope that 2016 heel is the real thing. I've got more than a few days on the 2015 ones, and one of my partners is on them full time. Not impressed. Risers get floppy and the break pops down like mad.
ElgAnyone got any personal experience with this? I'm highly considering it for a pair of pow skis i don't have bindings for yet.
BarmskiI have the cast system, it is awesome. Small scraper tool or blow torch solves the ice build problem. Being able to drop and send anything is awesome and the reason why I have it. Theres just certain terrain I wont take my dynafits in. Highly recommend CAST for sure.
250ri dont really have the best understanding of the mechanics behind a safely releasing binding. how would the heel of a pivot/fks be superior to that of the kingpin?
the kingpin's heel has two settings, one for vertical, and one for lateral release. they even rotate like the pivots. that being said, is the cast system actually safer than kingpins?
sagerobThe kingpins still have a pin system in the tow, which releases differently than non-tech bindings.
250ryea i realize that, but comparing the cast system with dynafit toes and p18 heels to the kingpins, is the cast system actually safer? the heel is what is in question here.
my guess would be that no, the cast system is not an upgrade in safety from the kingpins. and kingpins are lighter and have a lower stack height.
patagonialukeIf you're just looking at the heels, they are not very different as they are both alpine style with a good deal of elasticity. However, the CAST system is definitely more solid in the toe area because you're swapping out the inelastic pin-style toe for an elastic alpine toe of the P18 on the way down. For example, the dude that just won the One of Your Days contest was on Kingpins, but in one of the very first shots it shows him locking out the toes, and therefore disabling release. Had he been on the CAST system or any other alpine binding, he would not have had to compromise the safety release on his toepieces.
250rAh I didn't think of swapping them out at the top. Seems like a bit of a hassle.