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NegromancerThe reason everyone always says go to a boot fitter is because ski boots are by far the most important part of your ski equipment and are the most important thing to invest in when it comes to ski equipment.
You can ski with shitty 4th hand skis, jackets, googles, socks, etc and still have a great time but you if you cheap out on ski boots and end up with something that doesn't work it can destroy your experience because you'll just be in pain and you won't be able to ski to your full ability.
If you also end up in ski boots that do not fit properly it can actually be dangerous and you increase your risk of getting injured, skiing in boot thats are too big or don't fit correctly for example can lead to some extremely painful shin bang and busting up your toe nails due to toe bang.
The other reason people always say go to a boot fitter is because the chance of a ski boot fitting you perfectly straight out of the box is extremely small. In fact in my opinion ski boots will never fit you properly or perform to their full potential without getting custom made footbeds. I know in every pair of ski boots I've bought I've always had to get something punched out or have the shell grounded down in certain areas. Other things such as heat molding liners can also make a boot fit so much better.
It is also very difficult to give good boot advice without being able to see a persons foot. There's a lot more to take into consideration than just foot size and shape, the whole leg and ankle should also be analyzed to determine what boots are the correct choice.
DowseBigamyI get what you're saying though, someone saying 'go to a boot fitter' isn't an answer. But what about someone saying 'go to a boot fitter because...'? Unless everyone starts posting photos of their feet...
BenWhitI fully understand why users default to "go to a bootfitter" and I am not trying to argue that. My intent was to foster more informed and in-depth discussion from both the buyer and those trying to give advice. with more information, we can better inform online buyers. From there, they can make the decision to make modifications to the boot after having purchased it at a significant discount. you can make virtually any boot to virtually any foot, within reason.
NegromancerYeah but the problem is if you bring a boot into a shop that you've bought online they're going to charge you a lot to get any modifications done. If you buy a boot from the shop all good shops will make the modifications for free and often give you a discount if you buy the boot and get footbeds made with them.
BenWhitOnline retailers are periodically having sales offering -10%, -20%, -30% discounts and they often carry prior years' gear for a fraction of the price. Most of today's shops hold inventory until the end of the season before sending them back to the wholesaler. E-retailers offer an excellent opportunity to save some coin, something generally not offered by brick & mortar retailers.
onenerdykidOnline retailers (e-tailers) are held to the same Minimum Advertised Pricing (MAP) that Brick and Mortar retailers are held to. That means e-tailers are not allowed to run a sale during the majority of the year (usually August 1 - Feb 1) and after that there are set discount tiers each month (i.e. 10% in February, 20% in March, etc). If an e-tailer is caught violating MAP policy, the manufacturer/brand will stop selling to them. Therefore, when you are talking about current year product, there is no price benefit in buying from an e-tailer vs. a normal retailer. In fact, there is arguably more of a reason to by from a retailer because for the same price they usually give you some sort of "boot-fit guarantee" where they perform fitting service free of charge for a given (or unlimited) period.
And again, to reiterate from another thread, retailers do not send their unsold equipment back to the manufacturer. When (if) this happens, it is an extremely rare circumstance.
BenWhitI was more referring to Cyber Monday and the "outlet" on any e-marketplace retailer's site. I think you are much more likely to find a wider array of modestly priced boots because retailers like Evo & getboards offer prior year models at a heavy discount.
onenerdykidWhen it comes to prior year equipment, the e-tailers are going to win for sure. They literally buy product by the truckload.
drumbumocdpYesterday I had a kid who lives in Chicago (I'm in CO) come in with a k2 pinicale 130 LV that was two sizes too big, and still too small in his last. Now i have to spend a couple hours fucking with this thing that is never gonna work, and not sell boots for that commission that I rely on to pay bills. Kid couldn't flex it a millimeter, but he got a deal on eBay, and now I'm responsible to fix his issues.
I agree with what youre saying, but
you obviously have a clue. Most people with no access to a boot shop are Jerry's who will buy the cheapest thing, or loaded and just get the 'best' boot and go right for the rx130 LV when they should be in a Nordica cruise to fit their loaf of bread foot.
there should be a 'here's a picture of my foot from 3 differnet angles with accurate measurements, what boot do I get' thread