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TOAST.Where I work we go with the Open/closed approach because snow is to variable. I would imagine that keeping within a spec would be very difficult especially on really warm days. We write down every feature in the park, write down what work was performed on it and then whether it is open or closed. We don't specify jump sizes because if what is measured is different than what is written down it could be harmful in a lawsuit.
While standards would set a bar for all resorts, it could also bring some down. It would be more difficult to get creative with setups for resorts that know what they are doing. Resorts that don't have any idea of what they are doing could benefit, but they may also not be willing to put in the money to meet the standards and drop their park altogether.
Parks are expensive and its tough for small resorts to find builders and groomers that want to put effort into creating good and relatively safe parks. At many small resorts the groomers are farmers or construction workers that just need something to do in the winter and they don't have any idea of what anything should look like and upper management isn't willing to put in the time for proper training. Upper management at many small resorts could also use education on terrain parks, because they usually use the logic "bigger is more dangerous" , but in reality the small halfassed beginner jump/spine thing is going to hurt 10x more people because everyone overshoots the landing.
Have no idea if any of the above makes sense, was just writing some shit down and dont' feel like rereading.
TOAST.We don't specify jump sizes because if what is measured is different than what is written down it could be harmful in a lawsuit.
hemlockjibber8 We had to have written protocol of how we build and maintain features as well as use the approved signage for the entrance, liability, sizes and opened or closed.
not built to the same spec as a nationally certified jump course (FIS). Look at what happened in Snoqualmie in 2005. I was surprised that didn't change all the building specs.[/QUOTEThis is still how the park at my local hill signs stuff, a big metal sign at the top (that nobody reads) just explaining the terrain park.
Also what happened at Snoqualmie? used google but didn't find anything. I don't know if my key words were wrong or if the google evidence is removed...
ScottBAre your jump sizes marked as a distance or by Small, medium, large, x-large... signs?
Nope. Sign at the top of the park says Medium and Large features thats it.
hemlockjibber8Jumps were always labeled with xs, s, m, l, xl. I've never seen someone do a measurement sign. That sounds like it would open you up to liability if the measurement was wrong (and they essentially change distance everytime you groom it).
As for Snoqualmie, a guy straight lined into a shitty jump and paralyzed himself, sued and won $14 mil and as a reaction to that a number of hills got rid of their terrain parks for fear of liability. One of the major points that proved the hill liable was that the jump wasn't built by an engineer, it was only designed by a cat driver/ park manager with years of experience but no schooling.