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Ski Bindings mounted wrong TWICE?

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ballsagna
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Well, skiis and bikes has done it again.

About a month ago I opened a thread about how my skis we're mounted at the boot centre instead of the true centre of my ski (or at least the +5cm freestyle recommendation Volkl makes). I went back to the shop and they gladly obliged to redrill the skis for free.

However, when the techs asked where I wanted them remounted, and I said "+5cm" they made me unsure when they said that it may not be true Centre *which may be ahead of that point anyway. They said they noticed it was usually around the +3cm mark and that they would measure to be sure, so I told them to mount it where they measured true centre.

Unfortunately, I do not think they measured, I think they just drilled athe the God damn 3cm mark. Thanks to these techs who didn't talk much, my skis are not centre mount, but about an inch away from it, and they are drilled twice.

So now I'm faced with a problem. I have to begin to teach freestyle in about a week, and I don't really want to redrill my skis again. I also don't trust the guys at skis and bikes but if I go elsewhere I may be charged.

So what the f*ck do I do now?
Dec 13 2015 10:57PM
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Mrossi99
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Make them give you new skis they screwed it up twice.
Dec 13 2015 11:29PM
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japanada
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If I was a ski tech and I saw a work order that said +3, I would mount them +3 from the line. If you wanted a center mount, you should have said mount them center. Good luck getting new skis. Since your 3rd mount will be a good bit away from the +3 and +5 mount, I wouldnt worry too much about the skis strength.
Dec 13 2015 11:34PM
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shin-bang
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or just ride the dang things. on my scotts theyre on their 4th or 5th mount, each mount progressively getting close to true center, my mount being true center, and they ride fine and have held up to much abuse.
Dec 13 2015 11:48PM
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ballsagna
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japanadaIf I was a ski tech and I saw a work order that said +3, I would mount them +3 from the line. If you wanted a center mount, you should have said mount them center. Good luck getting new skis. Since your 3rd mount will be a good bit away from the +3 and +5 mount, I wouldnt worry too much about the skis strength.


The problem was that the work order said "True Centre", and they said to me they'd measure it. I have a customer copy on hand.
Dec 14 2015 7:08AM
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japanada
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true center doesnt always equal the dead center of the ski. It depends on the manufacture, some skis are marked with a line that says 'true center' yet it is a few CMs back from dead center. post up a pic.
Dec 14 2015 9:28AM
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KravtZ
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radicalfactionThe problem was that the work order said "True Centre", and they said to me they'd measure it. I have a customer copy on hand.


If you have proof that they mounted them wrong again I would demand a new pair of skis. It sounds like the sales guy and/or tech was just really lazy and didn't care to check. I'd put up a huge fit until I got some new ski for free.

Also, just a heads up. When you get skis mounted. Talk to the tech directly. I always do it and make sure they let me otherwise I won't buy it from them. Tell them exactly what you want and show him.
Dec 14 2015 9:30AM
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ballsagna
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KravtZIf you have proof that they mounted them wrong again I would demand a new pair of skis. It sounds like the sales guy and/or tech was just really lazy and didn't care to check. I'd put up a huge fit until I got some new ski for free.

Also, just a heads up. When you get skis mounted. Talk to the tech directly. I always do it and make sure they let me otherwise I won't buy it from them. Tell them exactly what you want and show him.


I did. It sounded like he was going to do what I wanted, and the work order said true centre. I think the tech just assumed.
Dec 14 2015 10:27AM
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KravtZ
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radicalfactionI did. It sounded like he was going to do what I wanted, and the work order said true centre. I think the tech just assumed.


You know what happens when you assume....I'd go back and tell them the situation and ask for new skis for free. Put up a fit or whatever it takes. Obviously they screwed up. The first time could have been a mistake but twice is unacceptable on an expensive piece of gear.
Dec 14 2015 11:21AM
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ggfski42
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japanadatrue center doesnt always equal the dead center of the ski. It depends on the manufacture, some skis are marked with a line that says 'true center' yet it is a few CMs back from dead center. post up a pic.


The terminology you are looking for is "core center." True Center is the correct terminology used for the dead center of a ski. Core center can be a few Cm's back from dead or "true" center, not the other way around.

All that being said, whenever you get your skis mounted, you need to draw the line yourself if you don't want to take any chances!
Dec 14 2015 11:51AM
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Alec-Ski
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I have to go to the worst place to get park skis mounted.... Piches in laconia. They never center mount my skis. So i had enough with it after three years of getting my skis remounted twice. What i did was took sharpie and drew a center mark line myself and then wrote "Center mount only" and they actuallly went by the center mount line i made.
Dec 14 2015 12:08PM
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japanada
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ggfski42The terminology you are looking for is "core center." True Center is the correct terminology used for the dead center of a ski. Core center can be a few Cm's back from dead or "true" center, not the other way around.

All that being said, whenever you get your skis mounted, you need to draw the line yourself if you don't want to take any chances!


Many companies mark core center and/or true center, and it is most definitely not always the dead center of the ski. Many times it is the fattest part of the core of the ski.

Pointless technical jargon aside, I always draw a line with a straight edge where I want my skis to be mounted at.
Dec 14 2015 1:23PM
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ballsagna
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radicalfactionWell, skiis and bikes has done it again.

About a month ago I opened a thread about how my skis we're mounted at the boot centre instead of the true centre of my ski (or at least the +5cm freestyle recommendation Volkl makes). I went back to the shop and they gladly obliged to redrill the skis for free.

However, when the techs asked where I wanted them remounted, and I said "+5cm" they made me unsure when they said that it may not be true Centre *which may be ahead of that point anyway. They said they noticed it was usually around the +3cm mark and that they would measure to be sure, so I told them to mount it where they measured true centre.

Unfortunately, I do not think they measured, I think they just drilled athe the God damn 3cm mark. Thanks to these techs who didn't talk much, my skis are not centre mount, but about an inch away from it, and they are drilled twice.

So now I'm faced with a problem. I have to begin to teach freestyle in about a week, and I don't really want to redrill my skis again. I also don't trust the guys at skis and bikes but if I go elsewhere I may be charged.

So what the f*ck do I do now?


Yo guys don't worry, I called the store, and they said that they'd call the Volkl rep and get me a new pair of skis and bindings for free.
Dec 14 2015 9:12PM
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haggis_hunter
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japanadatrue center doesnt always equal the dead center of the ski. It depends on the manufacture, some skis are marked with a line that says 'true center' yet it is a few CMs back from dead center. post up a pic.


This, it can mean a lot of things. Some companies count it as centre of side cut, centre of camber and it is usually marked true centre.

My local shop is bloody good and hasn't screwed up anything that I've sent him but even the best ski techs are only human and where your mounting and serving as many sets as they do you do forget and miss communications happen.

The best way is to mark the line you want mounted for your BSL to be on each ski with tape or a wax pencil. I have the paper templates of the bindings I use and mark the mid point I want them to be for the techs, five years of having things mounted and not a single fuck up.
Dec 15 2015 5:56AM
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Shoey-Ski
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radicalfactionWell, skiis and bikes has done it again.

About a month ago I opened a thread about how my skis we're mounted at the boot centre instead of the true centre of my ski (or at least the +5cm freestyle recommendation Volkl makes). I went back to the shop and they gladly obliged to redrill the skis for free.

However, when the techs asked where I wanted them remounted, and I said "+5cm" they made me unsure when they said that it may not be true Centre *which may be ahead of that point anyway. They said they noticed it was usually around the +3cm mark and that they would measure to be sure, so I told them to mount it where they measured true centre.

Unfortunately, I do not think they measured, I think they just drilled athe the God damn 3cm mark. Thanks to these techs who didn't talk much, my skis are not centre mount, but about an inch away from it, and they are drilled twice.

So now I'm faced with a problem. I have to begin to teach freestyle in about a week, and I don't really want to redrill my skis again. I also don't trust the guys at skis and bikes but if I go elsewhere I may be charged.

So what the f*ck do I do now?


They owe you a new pair of skis you shouldn't drill your skis more than 2 maybe at most 3 times so they basically in a way ruined them
Dec 15 2015 7:38PM
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