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Graduated a few months ago am now working 55+ hours a week. Get to see my girlfriend about once a week... Schedules clash due to my work and her being in grad school. I just bought a house. I guess this is where the rant comes in. I have become consumed with planning for the future. I hate taking days off cause I feel like I'm losing money. Have lost all desire to travel or go out with friends. I simply work and will only see friends if they're joining me to play golf. I have been trying to talk myself out of buying a Porsche just to get a sense of youth or excitement. Literally realities and stresses of supporting myself have consumed me and I feel like maybe I should be less responsible like some of my high school and college peers and be enjoying these mid twenties and not thinking much about life down the road. Anyone else in this spot in life? Ps typed this on mobile so it may be shitty
californiagrownYou called me "insufferable" and "a total dick". Then went on to totally discount my experiences. Everything you accuse me of, you have done the same damn thing. take a look in the mirror.
The one difference, i never got personal and started calling you names.
best piece of advice to bestow onto kids trying to figure it out, grow a career, and have some fun in the process? obviously skiing all day erryday is a great life and something we all strive to do, but i wanna keep doing this shit comfortably, be able to afford passes/gear/trips/time to ski, and set myself up so when the prime adult years come, you can (hopefully if you play the cards right) be able to finally start getting into positions where you can call your own shots, make a schedule of your own and stash away some loot so you can kick back, smoke a fatty/have a beer and enjoy that retiree life skiing and kickin it with your wife all day.
californiagrownLOL, youre resorting to troll-twisting words to a meaning that was very obviously not the intent? fair enough.
I believe that i stated and you understood why i dont believe people you described, and frankly, your father were not great parents. You believe the opposite. but i am the close minded one?
Huh? What words did I twist? Didn't I literally quote you?
How an open-minded person thinks: While I personally prefer this one method of parenting, and think it will work best for me, I understand and accept that there are other ways to do it that are just as valid as my own and lead to good and effective parenting.
How a close-minded person thinks: My way of parenting is the best, and really the only, way to do it. If you choose to do something different, you are not only doing it wrong, but are a bad parent.
Obviously this is an exaggeration of reality, but hopefully it will help clear up why I think you've been very close-minded in this discussion.
BogsHow an open-minded person thinks: While I personally prefer this one method of parenting, and think it will work best for me, I understand and accept that there are other ways to do it that are just as valid as my own and lead to good and effective parenting.
How a close-minded person thinks: My way of parenting is the best, and really the only, way to do it. If you choose to do something different, you are not only doing it wrong, but are a bad parent.
Obviously this is an exaggeration of reality, but hopefully it will help clear up why I think you've been very close-minded in this discussion.
Haha disagreement does not equal close mindedness. If it does, you've been just as close minded.
californiagrownHaha disagreement does not equal close mindedness. If it does, you've been just as close minded.
Again, there's a big difference between saying "I disagree with you, and personally believe something else, but that doesn't mean your way of thinking is wrong or any worse than mine." And saying "I think this, you don't think the same, and your way of thinking is wrong and bad." The former is, for me, an open-minded way of thinking, the latter is closed-minded. You are doing the latter. Again, just explaining why it seems to me that you have been very close-minded in this discussion.
californiagrownno, you didnt. You changed my words and punctuation to make what i said fit into your nice neat box.
What i said in response to a question: "Yes, absolutley. I believe..."
What you turned it into : "Yes, I believe absolutley..."
Why are you being so close minded?
You, page 2 of this thread, 20 hours ago: "I absolutely believe in my stance"
I changed the tense, nothing else.
Think I'm done with this, as you clearly aren't going to actually read what I'm writing, and I'm now correcting your misquotation of yourself. Surely you're just trolling now, no?
BogsHopefully this is enough to convince you that I didn't twist your words beyond changing the tense.
But you did. You cherry picked from the middle of a sentence and then changed the tense to take it from context so it would fit into your personal attack against me.
I'm done with you. You don't want to listen, you just want to twist words and argue semantics, not ideas. Watch, you'll probly come back and accuse me of twisting your words lol.
californiagrownBut you did. You cherry picked from the middle of a sentence and then changed the tense to take it from context so it would fit into your personal attack against me.
I'm done with you. You don't want to listen, you just want to twist words and argue semantics, not ideas. Watch, you'll probly come back and accuse me of twisting your words lol.
You guys are talking about being adults and moving on from college, yet arguing like you never made it out of middle school. Chill the fuck out. Its obvious that everyone has their own opinions on what is best in advancing a career.
Some people measure success in money and possessions. Others measure it by richness of life and experiences. Most times, it is some combination of both.
Some jobs are very intensive at first, then become more flexible with time. Other jobs are intense and hard forever.
Do what you love and don't let what others think of you be a factor in how you move forward.
post college pussy is shit, the drugs are shit, and the parties are gay as fuck
What I really hate are 'couples' whether they are just bf and gf, engaged, or married.
That shit was annoying enough at a younger age but is unbearable when you hit 30. When you are an asshole like me being single is still whatever Im such a weird eccentric dude but I feel bad for nice girls my age who get pressured into picking one of their loser guy friends or some tool off tinder to be serious with so they aren't the only single desperate chick in the crew. Its like I can see the embarrassment on your face that you are with him give it up you're not going to get eaten by a wolf or a bear because you don't have a man to protect you.
skiingonskisYou guys are talking about being adults and moving on from college, yet arguing like you never made it out of middle school. Chill the fuck out. Its obvious that everyone has their own opinions on what is best in advancing a career.
Some people measure success in money and possessions. Others measure it by richness of life and experiences. Most times, it is some combination of both.
Some jobs are very intensive at first, then become more flexible with time. Other jobs are intense and hard forever.
Do what you love and don't let what others think of you be a factor in how you move forward.
"Do what you love". I disagree and think that is lala land thinking. More prudent advice would be live a life you love. Your job can be a big part, a small part, or all of your life. Just make sure that the big picture works for you.
PeppermillRenoWhat I really hate are 'couples' whether they are just bf and gf, engaged, or married.
That shit was annoying enough at a younger age but is unbearable when you hit 30. When you are an asshole like me being single is still whatever Im such a weird eccentric dude but I feel bad for nice girls my age who get pressured into picking one of their loser guy friends or some tool off tinder to be serious with so they aren't the only single desperate chick in the crew. Its like I can see the embarrassment on your face that you are with him give it up you're not going to get eaten by a wolf or a bear because you don't have a man to protect you.
the time between post grad when you are like 22 to like 30 seems like a very fucked up period, like your suppose to be an adult but emotionally and mentally you are probably not
like im 22 and i work and it fucking sucks having to work 12 hours straight, take care of bills and rent, having zero fucking free time, not having any breaks, not getting any holidays
facedownassupthe time between post grad when you are like 22 to like 30 seems like a very fucked up period, like your suppose to be an adult but emotionally and mentally you are probably not
like im 22 and i work and it fucking sucks having to work 12 hours straight, take care of bills and rent, having zero fucking free time, not having any breaks, not getting any holidays
POST COLLEGE FUCKING BLOWS
Yea...at your age I tried to be a ski bum in Tahoe and failed and ran out of money in November so didn't ski once despite having a pass. Credit got all fucked up dipping on a lease and shit. Went from that to working 50 hours a week to still be poor as a motherfucker. Age 30 Im a smarter and better version of that 22 year old me but Im weird and different as a result.
The worst part were the no holidays either you had to work 6 months to earn 1 week of paid vacation when I first started my jobs. And all my coworkers thought I was a playboy millionaire when I'd take some unpaid vacation (like a fuckin day or two not a week) to ski or visit my dad in Vegas because unpaid vacation is something people just don't take. Not to mention most of these people had the maximum amount of vacation saved up and would only ever use their vacation not to go away but because they were going to lose it if they didn't take it.
PeppermillRenoYea...at your age I tried to be a ski bum in Tahoe and failed and ran out of money in November so didn't ski once despite having a pass. Credit got all fucked up dipping on a lease and shit. Went from that to working 50 hours a week to still be poor as a motherfucker. Age 30 Im a smarter and better version of that 22 year old me but Im weird and different as a result.
The worst part were the no holidays either you had to work 6 months to earn 1 week of paid vacation when I first started my jobs. And all my coworkers thought I was a playboy millionaire when I'd take some unpaid vacation (like a fuckin day or two not a week) to ski or visit my dad in Vegas because unpaid vacation is something people just don't take. Not to mention most of these people had the maximum amount of vacation saved up and would only ever use their vacation not to go away but because they were going to lose it if they didn't take it.
dude since i left college in may and starting working in july i havnt even made a fucking cent and im constantly broke even though i make $4500 a month. I have broke 2 lease agreements that costed me a fuckload of money, and six months into my job now im still broke
its fucked up
relationships post-college are fucked up too, its all fucking weird
facedownassupdude since i left college in may and starting working in july i havnt even made a fucking cent and im constantly broke even though i make $4500 a month. I have broke 2 lease agreements that costed me a fuckload of money, and six months into my job now im still broke
its fucked up
relationships post-college are fucked up too, its all fucking weird
You're really, really, really bad with money. Don't blame that on "life" haha
californiagrownYou're really, really, really bad with money. Don't blame that on "life" haha
ya i fucking know
ive lived in 3 different apartments in 4 months
the first apartment i had to put down a $2000 security deposit plus $1200 for the first months of rent, got pissed off with management because i lost my fob key and refused to paid $250 to replace it, so i fucked off and took all my shit out
the second apartment i moved into made me put down a $1800 deposit, i lived there for a month so i had to pay 1 months rent $1400, then i fucked out of this apartment bcuz it had shaggy old carpet in it, and the room always felt moist and wet
now im in my third apartment that im living in now i put down a $1000 dollar deposit
bottom line, i wasted a bunch of fucking money on breaking leases and shit
californiagrown"Do what you love". I disagree and think that is lala land thinking. More prudent advice would be live a life you love. Your job can be a big part, a small part, or all of your life. Just make sure that the big picture works for you.
Then a good career and having enough money fund your hobbies is what you love. If you think that doing what you love is 'lala land', bummer. For real though, lala land is the shit. So fun out here
skiingonskisThen a good career and having enough money fund your hobbies is what you love. If you think that doing what you love is 'lala land', bummer. For real though, lala land is the shit. So fun out here
Haha I've been here for a while, welcome to the club lol... Read my original post on pg 1. I'm speaking more towards the career/job advice of "do what you love"... And I think you knew that ;)
I've been out for about a year and a half and i can tell you from close friends and colleagues, don't buy a porsche. life is awesome when you can support yourself with extra spending money. the best way to blow that money and stay young is to do cool trips once a month or so. My buddies and I are big golfers so we have already been to some premiere destinations and premiere courses. nothing like a bro's trip to golf in a classy spot with a bunch of old retired guys and party like your still in college at the downtown bars. besides a list of places already booked and planned for next year, we will be going to scottland in two years for a couple weeks or so just to go. It's all about the work hard play harder strategy for us in our now mid 20's. i work about 45 hours a week but plan my sick days and paid time off to optimize three day weekends for bad ass trips. and i drive a used tacoma so my car payment is very very small. its all about putting that towards fun
PeppermillRenoWhat I really hate are 'couples' whether they are just bf and gf, engaged, or married.
That shit was annoying enough at a younger age but is unbearable when you hit 30. When you are an asshole like me being single is still whatever Im such a weird eccentric dude but I feel bad for nice girls my age who get pressured into picking one of their loser guy friends or some tool off tinder to be serious with so they aren't the only single desperate chick in the crew. Its like I can see the embarrassment on your face that you are with him give it up you're not going to get eaten by a wolf or a bear because you don't have a man to protect you.
juicedrummer11I've been out for about a year and a half and i can tell you from close friends and colleagues, don't buy a porsche. life is awesome when you can support yourself with extra spending money. the best way to blow that money and stay young is to do cool trips once a month or so. My buddies and I are big golfers so we have already been to some premiere destinations and premiere courses. nothing like a bro's trip to golf in a classy spot with a bunch of old retired guys and party like your still in college at the downtown bars. besides a list of places already booked and planned for next year, we will be going to scottland in two years for a couple weeks or so just to go. It's all about the work hard play harder strategy for us in our now mid 20's. i work about 45 hours a week but plan my sick days and paid time off to optimize three day weekends for bad ass trips. and i drive a used tacoma so my car payment is very very small. its all about putting that towards fun
This. I do a dope trip every 3 to 6 months. It's a blast. Nothing better than getting out of Canada and flying somewhere warm for a few days to go skydiving, or taking a heli into a back country hut.
PeppermillRenoWhat I really hate are 'couples' whether they are just bf and gf, engaged, or married.
Yeah-- I hate couples, too..and I'm a part of one. Its the lame couples that give the good couples a bad name, though.
I hate how some women seem to lose their identity once in a relationship--half of my girlfriends became clones when they coupled up--now all they talk about are diaper genies, organic baby food, pinterest recipes, and losing "baby weight." Even before they had babies, the conversations were about recipes, food processors, and what they're going to name their babies someday.
the first apartment i had to put down a $2000 security deposit plus $1200 for the first months of rent, got pissed off with management because i lost my fob key and refused to paid $250 to replace it, so i fucked off and took all my shit out
the second apartment i moved into made me put down a $1800 deposit, i lived there for a month so i had to pay 1 months rent $1400, then i fucked out of this apartment bcuz it had shaggy old carpet in it, and the room always felt moist and wet
now im in my third apartment that im living in now i put down a $1000 dollar deposit
bottom line, i wasted a bunch of fucking money on breaking leases and shit
OG_lockGraduated a few months ago am now working 55+ hours a week. Get to see my girlfriend about once a week... Schedules clash due to my work and her being in grad school. I just bought a house. I guess this is where the rant comes in. I have become consumed with planning for the future. I hate taking days off cause I feel like I'm losing money. Have lost all desire to travel or go out with friends. I simply work and will only see friends if they're joining me to play golf. I have been trying to talk myself out of buying a Porsche just to get a sense of youth or excitement. Literally realities and stresses of supporting myself have consumed me and I feel like maybe I should be less responsible like some of my high school and college peers and be enjoying these mid twenties and not thinking much about life down the road. Anyone else in this spot in life? Ps typed this on mobile so it may be shitty
Fuck you you can afford a house and a porsche months out of college, don't like your lot in life? quit. Give it up. Don't bitch you privileged fuck bag. do you have any idea how fucking lucky you are???!?!
CTDFuck you you can afford a house and a porsche months out of college, don't like your lot in life? quit. Give it up. Don't bitch you privileged fuck bag. do you have any idea how fucking lucky you are???!?!
Luck, or hard work + intelligence? We don't know.
In any case, a mortgage in most places is significantly cheaper than rent in a lot of spots, and a shitty payment plan on a Porsche would make for a pretty reasonable monthly car payment.
ScaredwhiteboyHow the hell do you afford a house and a porsche only 3 months out of college?
What's your salary? Where do you work? How do I apply?
A Lot of business jobs working for banks will offer quite a bit of money straight out college. You just need to be connected to the right people at the right time.
The.Natty.VeganA Lot of business jobs working for banks will offer quite a bit of money straight out college. You just need to be connected to the right people at the right time.
Not enough to buy a house. Especially not in the housing markets where these high-paying jobs exist (New York and San Francisco).
The.Natty.VeganA Lot of business jobs working for banks will offer quite a bit of money straight out college. You just need to be connected to the right people at the right time.
Very few, if any, jobs will give recent undergraduates bonuses. Perhaps MBA or PhD graduates, but not undergraduates.
ScaredwhiteboyNot enough to buy a house. Especially not in the housing markets where these high-paying jobs exist (New York and San Francisco).
I know a couple people who made 1/4 million 1st year out of school in tech sales - 1 was a smoking hot EE working for Texas instruments, and the other was a standard business guy who worked at some cloud server company(might have been box?) and was just freakishly good at business and selling.
But again, a $1500/month mortgage + $5-600/month car payment is not that ludicrous. There is cheaper housing like the above in the SF and NYC areas if you commute a few hours a day too.
Think he is referring to a down payment. Even with a mortgage you need a down payment. OP may have an FHA loan though with a small down payment. He isn't talking much though...not since his original piss on the ol NS hydrant.
OG_locklooks like i need to clarify a bit more lol.
i work hourly in the food industry in management, got a home on a first time home buyer program, was referring to a used porsche.
No i'm not the high roller I may have accidentally perceived myself as...
yeah definitely don't get a porsche then. i have some high roller friends and they won't even splurge on better than an sti or evo lol. plus insurance on that would be outrageous.
