What's a backward frontflip ish off-axis rotation

Your definition for a cork and a bio is off

A cork is an off axis spin thrown backwards

A bio is an off axis spin thrown forwards.

I always call flats and rodeos the same thing cause theyre too confusing. They're is also a weird gray area between rodeos/flats and bios

The flip you are trying to make sense of, is a switch rodeo (By my definition. There are alot of people who will say switch cork)

Cork - off axis spin with head pointing uphill, not inverted
Bio - off axis spin with head pointing down hill, not inverted
D-spin - pretty much the same as a cork, but you go inverted at some point.
Rodeo - spin + flip, thrown "backwards"
Misty - spin + flip, thrown "forwards"
Flatspin - Close to a rodeo, but never inverted. Imagine a vertical axis going from one of your hips to the other that you spin around.

THEDIRTYBUBBLEYour definition for a cork and a bio is off

A cork is an off axis spin thrown backwards

A bio is an off axis spin thrown forwards.

I always call flats and rodeos the same thing cause theyre too confusing. They're is also a weird gray area between rodeos/flats and bios

The flip you are trying to make sense of, is a switch rodeo (By my definition. There are alot of people who will say switch cork)

I agree with your definition of cork and bio, my bad.

But a switch rodeo/cork/misty etc. is when you approach the jump in a switch stance, then you throw the trick.
What I'm describing is approaching the jump in a regular stance, then throw the "backward" off-axis front flip. However, a switch misty is very close to what I described, but just in an opposite direction.

ElgCork - off axis spin with head pointing uphill, not inverted
Bio - off axis spin with head pointing down hill, not inverted
D-spin - pretty much the same as a cork, but you go inverted at some point.
Rodeo - spin + flip, thrown "backwards"
Misty - spin + flip, thrown "forwards"
Flatspin - Close to a rodeo, but never inverted. Imagine a vertical axis going from one of your hips to the other that you spin around.

These definition are way too ambiguous. e.g. "Rodeo - spin + flip, thrown "backwards"", do you mean thrown "uphill" backwards, or "backflip“ backwards?
Although it appears a lot. It doesn't explain a lot things.
And it doesn't include the one I described above.

A 180 to misty 5 is essentially how you teach cork 7s... So there is your answer.

yu.pang.12These definition are way too ambiguous. e.g. "Rodeo - spin + flip, thrown "backwards"", do you mean thrown "uphill" backwards, or "backflip“ backwards?
Although it appears a lot. It doesn't explain a lot things.
And it doesn't include the one I described above.

I mean thrown backwards. your face is forward, your ass is backwards. Whether it is down hill or up hill depends on if you're going switch or not.

And what your thread title explains, i don't know what you mean. A "backward frontflip ish off axis rotation"? Do you have a video of it? Usually it really helps to see the whole trick.

ElgI mean thrown backwards. your face is forward, your ass is backwards. Whether it is down hill or up hill depends on if you're going switch or not.

And what your thread title explains, i don't know what you mean. A "backward frontflip ish off axis rotation"? Do you have a video of it? Usually it really helps to see the whole trick.

Should point out that corks and bios actually depends on where your head is pointing, but for rodeos and misties it matters which way the trick is set. A regular rodeo is set backwards, up hill. A switch rodeo is is still set backwards, but since you're going switch into the jump it is set down hill. When doing corked tricks your head will be pointing up hill both on regular and switch tricks, and when doing bios your head is pointing down hill for both regular and switch.

This is really basic explanations, off course the different axis' vary from trick to trick and skier to skier.

yu.pang.12These definition are way too ambiguous.

"What's a backward frontflip ish off-axis rotation"

takes one to know one

ElgShould point out that corks and bios actually depends on where your head is pointing, but for rodeos and misties it matters which way the trick is set. A regular rodeo is set backwards, up hill. A switch rodeo is is still set backwards, but since you're going switch into the jump it is set down hill. When doing corked tricks your head will be pointing up hill both on regular and switch tricks, and when doing bios your head is pointing down hill for both regular and switch.

This is really basic explanations, off course the different axis' vary from trick to trick and skier to skier.

Thanks for the explanation. I know what you mean by backward, it's just ambiguous if people are not familiar with the trick.
So, basically a cork is a head-point-to-up-hill spin, doesn't matter if it includes flips or not. I n this sense, what I described is also a cork. But people would call a real backflip cork(inverted at some point) an underflip.
But bio doesn't include flips, if a frontflip is involved is a misty. if a backflip is added, it's a rodeo.

I think the rodeo you described is not correct. It's set backwards(as a backflip-ish) but has to set side-hill or down-hill, like(https://youtu.be/PVxul3gAGTs?t=23s)(well, call that trick a flat is fine, they all set the same way). A switch rodeo is also down-hill (or at least sideway, cuz the physical body restriction) (https://youtu.be/O5iaAtNuWuw?t=12s)

The reason I bring it up is because, originally I thought a cork is a regular off-axis spin with backflips but not as a inverted backflips. That's why I'm curious a off-axis spin pointing uphill with a frontflip. I haven't seen any video, it's just come from my thoughts.

After the discussion, I believe a cork is just because is head-point-up-hill-off-axis-spin. So doesn't matter if it's pure spin or frontflip or backflip.

yu.pang.12Thanks for the explanation.
So, basically a cork is a head-point-to-up-hill spin, doesn't matter if it includes flips or not.

After the discussion, I believe a cork is just because is head-point-up-hill-off-axis-spin. So doesn't matter if it's pure spin or frontflip or backflip.

It does matter, if it has a flip in it, it's not a cork. And I wish I knew what trick you're trying to describe but it just doesn't sound like any trick at all.

BROLFIt does matter, if it has a flip in it, it's not a cork. And I wish I knew what trick you're trying to describe but it just doesn't sound like any trick at all.

Then I totally don't understand. what do you call cork spin+flips?

For a triple cork 1620, the commentator would say: a four and half rotations with 3 flips.

I don't know how I can describe the one in my mind better. "regular stance approach the jump, at the take off, turn 180 and start the misty(frontflip + keep spinning the same direction as the first 180)." A switch misty is very close to this maneuver the only difference is switch misty approach the jump in switch stance.

BROLFIt does matter, if it has a flip in it, it's not a cork. And I wish I knew what trick you're trying to describe but it just doesn't sound like any trick at all.

https://youtu.be/pRyTkzRqfRM?t=27s this is a good example of what I'm saying (except for the switch take off)

yu.pang.12Then I totally don't understand. what do you call cork spin+flips?

For a triple cork 1620, the commentator would say: a four and half rotations with 3 flips.

corked spins are not inverted, simple as that. And inverted cork would be a d-spin, and the more inverted it is the more it looks like a full-full (for 720s obviously).

Commentators rarely get the the descriptions right, but you gotta remember they have to make it understandable for the public. Most people watching lets say the x-games can't tell a cork 900 from a double cork 1080.

I'm still not sure what trick you're explaining, but i think you trying to separate it into 180+misty5/backflip makes it way harder to understand. Find a video of the exact trick, and we'll know what trick it is. That video of BB is a switch double misty. When the tricks get that big the degree of off axis spins and flips starts to blend a little.

yu.pang.12https://youtu.be/pRyTkzRqfRM?t=27s this is a good example of what I'm saying (except for the switch take off)

I know it's confusing,but if someone threw a switch misty going forward it would just end up being a cork.

ElgCork - off axis spin with head pointing uphill, not inverted
Bio - off axis spin with head pointing down hill, not inverted
D-spin - pretty much the same as a cork, but you go inverted at some point.
Rodeo - spin + flip, thrown "backwards"
Misty - spin + flip, thrown "forwards"
Flatspin - Close to a rodeo, but never inverted. Imagine a vertical axis going from one of your hips to the other that you spin around.

Correct ^^^^

Ah, thx all. Now I figured it out, it would still be a cork.