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On3p 106 Kartels weight.

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chicknfriedsteak
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Still trying to make up my mind between the new Bacons, Ct 3.0s or Kartels for an all mountain pow ski. I'll be using them for 40 percent powder, 20 percent touring and 40 percent chopped up snow and groomers. Both the 3.0 and Bacon are super light, which will be great for touring and my type of all mountain jibbing but I've heard, that because they are so durable the kartels are on the heavier side. Any body got them or want to shed any light one the differences between these skis?
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Oct 13 2015 3:31PM
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tomPietrowski
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Mordecai woul be my choice. The kartel is amazin but would not be my choice for touring, too rockered and soft really. The mordecai would be my choice over the bacon a. They have better flair and stability an the early rise rather then rocker of the kartel will mean more of the skin ia in contact. I have not skie te faction
Oct 13 2015 3:33PM
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.lencon
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tomPietrowskiMordecai woul be my choice. The kartel is amazin but would not be my choice for touring, too rockered and soft really. The mordecai would be my choice over the bacon a. They have better flair and stability an the early rise rather then rocker of the kartel will mean more of the skin ia in contact. I have not skie te faction


Tom has a good point. I love my Kartel 106s but I wouldn't spend 60% of my time on them in powder and touring. I think out of the skis you chose the CT 3.0 would be best.

Also the kartels aren't really heavy considering size and materials used. And they don't really feel heavy anyways.

I haven't been on the 3.0 but that seems to be a good choice for what you have picked out. I will recommend the 4frnt YLE because those are awesome and would do everything you want with ease and fun. I highly recommend them.
Oct 13 2015 3:49PM
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brov1
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id go with the Atomic automatic 109 for what you are asking but they aren't fully twinned.

for a twin id say blizzard peacemaker or gunsmoke, line mordecai, or maybe even an Folsom trophy or ON3P jeffery 114 on the wider side
Oct 13 2015 4:41PM
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chicknfriedsteak
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tomPietrowskiMordecai woul be my choice. The kartel is amazin but would not be my choice for touring, too rockered and soft really. The mordecai would be my choice over the bacon a. They have better flair and stability an the early rise rather then rocker of the kartel will mean more of the skin ia in contact. I have not skie te faction


Even the new bacon? I'm a small guy so the Bacon seemed better fit than the Mordecai, but I haven't skied them so Idk.
Oct 13 2015 7:34PM
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tomPietrowski
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chicknfriedsteakEven the new bacon? I'm a small guy so the Bacon seemed better fit than the Mordecai, but I haven't skied them so Idk.


It comes down to what you will be skiing. For me here in whistler the new sfb skied well but it would be my choice for an all MTN ski not a pow ski. But say you're somewhere wit less fresh or more importantly lighter snow you may find the narrower sfb is fine for you. Touring wise sure the sfb will be slightly lighter but if you are out looking for big lines and good snow a slightly wider footprint will make things easier.
Oct 13 2015 7:42PM
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chicknfriedsteak
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tomPietrowskiIt comes down to what you will be skiing. For me here in whistler the new sfb skied well but it would be my choice for an all MTN ski not a pow ski. But say you're somewhere wit less fresh or more importantly lighter snow you may find the narrower sfb is fine for you. Touring wise sure the sfb will be slightly lighter but if you are out looking for big lines and good snow a slightly wider footprint will make things easier.


Well, my mountain is known for it's deep and dry snow, but I usually can't get there tell later in the day when most of it is already chopped up. So I do most of my powder skiing in the side or back country.
Oct 13 2015 8:30PM
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tomPietrowski
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chicknfriedsteakWell, my mountain is known for it's deep and dry snow, but I usually can't get there tell later in the day when most of it is already chopped up. So I do most of my powder skiing in the side or back country.


For chopped up pow then the mordecai for sure. They tracked so much better then the sfb and I can honestly say they were probably my favourite freeride ski I tried last season. They really do rip but being so light they will make a decent touring ski. I going for the mordecai wit kingpins for my playful touring setup.
Oct 13 2015 8:34PM
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chicknfriedsteak
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tomPietrowskiFor chopped up pow then the mordecai for sure. They tracked so much better then the sfb and I can honestly say they were probably my favourite freeride ski I tried last season. They really do rip but being so light they will make a decent touring ski. I going for the mordecai wit kingpins for my playful touring setup.


well Mordecai it is, thanks man!
Oct 13 2015 9:06PM
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