Member of the Month

PartyBullshiit
March, 2024

Online

Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!

Fisheye or Clean Shot??

profile picture
JimmyRecard
Posts: 242 - Karma: 2,552
I appreciate the artistry of a well-shot fish-eye vid, but I can't lie I totally prefer a video if it's clean HD and smoothly shot and cut.
POLL
Edit Poll
Votes:

Take care when editing a poll; Options should be similar to maintain vote integrity.

More options will be added automatically as you type. You must supply a question and at least two options. No HTML is allowed.

Sep 28 2015 9:00PM
156 47
profile picture
Brocka_Flocka
Posts: 1212 - Karma: 8,766
Clean Riding by Fishes
Sep 28 2015 9:06PM
4 0
profile picture
sellinger
Posts: 591 - Karma: 485
Clean shooting 100%. Nothing beats a HQ shot. IMO fisheye is really played out and low quality.
Sep 28 2015 9:09PM
5 2
profile picture
.Morton
Posts: 440 - Karma: 1,426
I can dig the old look but when it gets to the point that the camera is drifting off so much that I can't see the person for half the trick I have to shut it off.
Sep 28 2015 9:15PM
1 0
profile picture
moosevision
Posts: 140 - Karma: 214
VX1000 + Fisheye
Sep 29 2015 2:50PM
11 1
profile picture
K2
Posts: 144 - Karma: 3,536
Sep 29 2015 3:00PM
35 0
profile picture
Krotchs_Brother
Posts: 1133 - Karma: 3,006
moosevisionVX1000 + Fisheye


This.


There's a difference between a fisheye shot and a shitty cameraman...

Good cameraman + VX1000 plus + Fisheye = Great footy.
Sep 29 2015 3:03PM
6 0
profile picture
kung_powpow
Posts: 1990 - Karma: 3,669
Tokina 11-16
Sep 29 2015 3:10PM
0 10
profile picture
Jesse.White
Posts: 450 - Karma: 754
Sep 29 2015 3:51PM
15 0
profile picture
WVskiing
Posts: 3007 - Karma: 1,948
Fisheye shots do get pretty annoying.
Sep 30 2015 1:48AM
2 4
profile picture
BonusNo413
Posts: 342 - Karma: 2,478
Fish eye is better for skateboarding coz it's about the board. Skiing is about what the skier does with their body so clean shots.
Sep 30 2015 8:22AM
1 8
profile picture
jason...
Posts: 9006 - Karma: 780
i dont understand what you mean by this thread. you can shoot with a fisheye lens on an hd camera you know.
Sep 30 2015 9:49AM
11 0
profile picture
glidecam420
Posts: 214 - Karma: 1,536
i chose the wrong fucking sport. yall blow my mind.
Sep 30 2015 10:19AM
4 3
profile picture
moosevision
Posts: 140 - Karma: 214
OxcilicFish eye is better for skateboarding coz it's about the board. Skiing is about what the skier does with their body so clean shots.


You obviously don't skate do you lol. Skateboarding is not just about the board..... It's about the body and style just as much as skiing is.
Sep 30 2015 10:38AM
4 1
profile picture
glidecam420
Posts: 214 - Karma: 1,536
skiers suck at filming
Sep 30 2015 10:45AM
3 4
profile picture
glidecam420
Posts: 214 - Karma: 1,536
do most of you even watch other shit like skateboarding and snowboarding? hell even some rollerbladers can film proper fisheye. or are you so stuck in this skiing thing? fisheye isnt an old school thing that should be though of as a novelty for "artsy" edits. its the best way to film these sort of action sports. and if you think fisheye has no place in skiing you really need to get out there and see how a fisheye is actually used. SD or HD.
Sep 30 2015 10:51AM
9 0
profile picture
littleman34
Posts: 1328 - Karma: 3,973
A small fisheye looks real nice.
Oct 1 2015 2:01PM
0 0
profile picture
LynxNation
Posts: 780 - Karma: 5,853
They each have their time, style, and place. Tight spaces need that wide effect but wide spaces need that awesome non-distorted image. It's all about moderation between the two.
Oct 1 2015 2:19PM
3 0
profile picture
MNSkiers
Posts: 1154 - Karma: 7,533
I could go for some clean fish eye with no distortion. When clips get distorted because the angle is too wide it aint my thing
Oct 1 2015 3:18PM
1 0
profile picture
MNSkiers
Posts: 1154 - Karma: 7,533
I could go for some clean fish eye with no distortion. When clips get distorted because the angle is too wide it aint my thing
Oct 1 2015 3:20PM
0 0
profile picture
OGhallvard
Posts: 167 - Karma: 251
it makes me sad to see how little knowledge people have when it comes to filming.
Oct 2 2015 12:05PM
1 0
profile picture
CrotchKiller
Posts: 9037 - Karma: 6,940
MNSkiersI could go for some clean fish eye with no distortion. When clips get distorted because the angle is too wide it aint my thing


Fisheye is distortion. Fisheye without distortion is just wide angle
Oct 2 2015 1:32PM
2 0
profile picture
MNSkiers
Posts: 1154 - Karma: 7,533
CrotchKillerFisheye is distortion. Fisheye without distortion is just wide angle


I'm talking like a crazy amount of distortion
Oct 2 2015 2:28PM
0 0
profile picture
broto
Posts: 9039 - Karma: 25,658
MNSkiersI'm talking like a crazy amount of distortion


you're talking about a shitty lens and a shitty filmer then. when done right, fisheye shots are fucking badass.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/785432/GX1000--Medellin
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/785433/always-dirty
Oct 2 2015 2:41PM
3 1
profile picture
Jon_Taffer
Posts: 1374 - Karma: 5,383
70% fisheye 30% long lens. the way it should be. a healthy dose of hijinx is always good too
Oct 3 2015 6:40PM
0 0
profile picture
Casey
Posts: 7778 - Karma: 23,385
Use the fisheye to make your rails look huge!
Oct 3 2015 7:49PM
1 0
profile picture
BonusNo413
Posts: 342 - Karma: 2,478
moosevisionYou obviously don't skate do you lol. Skateboarding is not just about the board..... It's about the body and style just as much as skiing is.


You obviously have no common sense do you lol. I skate everyday, probably more than you. Obviously the purpose of fisheye is the emphasise of the board in the frame. A kickflip involves the board turning. A cork 7 involves the body turning.
Oct 4 2015 8:19AM
1 1
profile picture
Edward.
Posts: 9366 - Karma: 445
West Coast Session: Public Day from jeff kohnstamm on Vimeo.

I think these fisheye shots were all done properly. Distortion to the point where you can see rounded off corners is too bothersome. Sometimes it just looks like it was filmed on an iphone with a cheap fisheye lens attached.
Oct 4 2015 12:28PM
0 0
profile picture
Edward.
Posts: 9366 - Karma: 445
Edward.West Coast Session: Public Day from jeff kohnstamm on Vimeo.

I think these fisheye shots were all done properly. Distortion to the point where you can see rounded off corners is too bothersome. Sometimes it just looks like it was filmed on an iphone with a cheap fisheye lens attached.


https://vimeo.com/41681848
Oct 4 2015 12:29PM
0 0
profile picture
Troy.
Posts: 5070 - Karma: 12,545
brotoyou're talking about a shitty lens and a shitty filmer then. when done right, fisheye shots are fucking badass.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/785432/GX1000--Medellin
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/785433/always-dirty


Anything shot above 240p is garbage. Fuck a SD card, fuck a HDMI, fuck anything that isn't tape.
Oct 4 2015 12:49PM
4 0
profile picture
.otto.
Posts: 3493 - Karma: 12,888
yo i made a thread like dis b4
Oct 4 2015 12:55PM
0 0
profile picture
Kretzschmar
Posts: 6691 - Karma: 97,873
I like sticking fisheyes on my RED camera so i can shoot in 4K
Oct 4 2015 7:03PM
6 0
profile picture
zwilly
Posts: 635 - Karma: 1,908
Fisheyes are raw and blazed.
Oct 4 2015 10:19PM
1 0
profile picture
moosevision
Posts: 140 - Karma: 214
OxcilicYou obviously have no common sense do you lol. I skate everyday, probably more than you. Obviously the purpose of fisheye is the emphasise of the board in the frame. A kickflip involves the board turning. A cork 7 involves the body turning.


This just proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
Oct 4 2015 10:48PM
1 0
profile picture
APunx176
Posts: 1189 - Karma: 2,628
kfed_bong_ripdo most of you even watch other shit like skateboarding and snowboarding? hell even some rollerbladers can film proper fisheye. or are you so stuck in this skiing thing? fisheye isnt an old school thing that should be though of as a novelty for "artsy" edits. its the best way to film these sort of action sports. and if you think fisheye has no place in skiing you really need to get out there and see how a fisheye is actually used. SD or HD.


/endthread
Oct 5 2015 1:39AM
0 0
profile picture
*DUMBCAN*
Posts: 2447 - Karma: 5,627
KrotchI like sticking fisheyes on my RED camera so i can shoot in 4K



Enough batteries for a day: $5,000
Schneider 50mm T2.0: $7,750
Memory for a day of 6K shooting: $10,000
MOVI Gimbal: $15,000
Red epic Dragon: $25,000
Fisheye adapter: $20
Total: $62,770

It's pretty much the NS filmer starter kit.




(dear gear whores: prices were guesses)
Oct 5 2015 12:26PM
1 0
profile picture
Toaster-Tony
Posts: 3531 - Karma: 5,850
kfed_bong_ripdo most of you even watch other shit like skateboarding and snowboarding? hell even some rollerbladers can film proper fisheye. or are you so stuck in this skiing thing? fisheye isnt an old school thing that should be though of as a novelty for "artsy" edits. its the best way to film these sort of action sports. and if you think fisheye has no place in skiing you really need to get out there and see how a fisheye is actually used. SD or HD.


so you feel pretty strongly about this?
Oct 5 2015 1:45PM
2 1
profile picture
safariari
Posts: 21 - Karma: 25
It just depends on the overall look you're going for. For example do you want your edits to look like a 90's skateboard video or a MSP movie. Personally unless you are seriously throwing down on giant stuff I prefer fisheye.
Oct 6 2015 12:58AM
0 0
profile picture
Jon_Taffer
Posts: 1374 - Karma: 5,383
safariariIt just depends on the overall look you're going for. For example do you want your edits to look like a 90's skateboard video or a MSP movie. Personally unless you are seriously throwing down on giant stuff I prefer fisheye.


There is a reason pretty much ALL action sports use fisheyes. Not to make it look like a 90s skateboard video, because fisheyes weren't just used in the 90s they're still being used today. Don't get why every skier decides to make a short film when the make an edit, it's not at all what skiing is really like and it looks fake as fuck. Have fun, follow your friends super fast with a fisheye and include all the hype. That's how you make a good edit
Oct 6 2015 9:57AM
1 0
profile picture
MarkDrvper
Posts: 1559 - Karma: 6,113
HD. Better quality and not as hood rat.
Oct 6 2015 4:05PM
0 4
profile picture
broto
Posts: 9039 - Karma: 25,658
MDrapHD. Better quality and not as hood rat.


It is to be noted that fisheye =/= bad quality, it's literally just distortion of the FOV

There are clean fisheye shots and there are low quality, poorly filmed ones. The title of this thread is stupid as it implies that fisheye shots are inherently not "clean" shots.

Even recording on tape doesn't mean low quality shots.
Oct 6 2015 4:18PM
1 0
profile picture
MarkDrvper
Posts: 1559 - Karma: 6,113
brotoIt is to be noted that fisheye =/= bad quality, it's literally just distortion of the FOV

There are clean fisheye shots and there are low quality, poorly filmed ones. The title of this thread is stupid as it implies that fisheye shots are inherently not "clean" shots.

Even recording on tape doesn't mean low quality shots.


Yea man I agree. Some I just think some people cant pull off the fish eye lens.
Oct 6 2015 5:26PM
0 2
profile picture
Jon_Taffer
Posts: 1374 - Karma: 5,383
MDrapHD. Better quality and not as hood rat.


https://vimeo.com/120204777
would you call this hoodrat? because they used fisheye in some shots
Oct 8 2015 6:06PM
0 0
All times are Eastern (-4)