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THEDIRTYBUBBLEIf it's a super crowded subway
yangumaneit hurts my balls to sit with my legs at anything less than a 55 degree angle
ANUSTARTSeriously, im tryna preserve my nuts so i can inseminate a girl in the future. My sperm will be weak if my balls are under pressure ba na na nana na na under pressure
corgEIf you're intruding into someone else's seat, then you're being rude. However, if nobody else is sitting next to you, it's fair game. Common bus etiquette.
corgEIf you're intruding into someone else's seat, then you're being rude. However, if nobody else is sitting next to you, it's fair game. Common bus etiquette.
RachyThe issue with this view point is that SOOOOO many people do it, then the bus or train or whatever starts to fill up and no one sits next to them leaving people standing and the bus getting more crowded when it doesn't need to be. I especially hate it when I see this happening in the elderly/handicapped seats.
It's so damn obnoxious especially on busses to the mountain where everyone is carrying a bunch of gear. I hate seeing the 5 guys by themselves and the 10 people standing in the isle because they are uncomfortable approaching the many taking up two seats pretending not to notice the bus is full. I mean, the people in the isle should have the balls to say something, but it shouldn't even be an issue to begin with.
RachyThe issue with this view point is that SOOOOO many people do it, then the bus or train or whatever starts to fill up and no one sits next to them leaving people standing and the bus getting more crowded when it doesn't need to be. I especially hate it when I see this happening in the elderly/handicapped seats.
It's so damn obnoxious especially on busses to the mountain where everyone is carrying a bunch of gear. I hate seeing the 5 guys by themselves and the 10 people standing in the isle because they are uncomfortable approaching the many taking up two seats pretending not to notice the bus is full. I mean, the people in the isle should have the balls to say something, but it shouldn't even be an issue to begin with.
corgEReally? That sounds a bit hyperbolic. I ride the bus every day to and from work, and even when it's packed, this is not an issue, but hey, maybe it's different where you live.
And seriously, just ask. Chances are high that he'll let you sit down. Sure, you shouldn't have to, and the guy should be more aware of the situation, but it solves the problem. Blogging about it does not solve the problem.
RachyI'm not concerned about me, I can handle myself.
I'm more worried about the people who don't ride public transit often, or are very shy, or speak English as a second language, or are old and brittle and struggle to get on the bus in the first place.
You don't know every person's circumstance, it might actually be difficult for them. And not every disability is obvious.
RachyThe issue with this view point is that SOOOOO many people do it, then the bus or train or whatever starts to fill up and no one sits next to them leaving people standing and the bus getting more crowded when it doesn't need to be. I especially hate it when I see this happening in the elderly/handicapped seats.
It's so damn obnoxious especially on busses to the mountain where everyone is carrying a bunch of gear. I hate seeing the 5 guys by themselves and the 10 people standing in the isle because they are uncomfortable approaching the many taking up two seats pretending not to notice the bus is full. I mean, the people in the isle should have the balls to say something, but it shouldn't even be an issue to begin with.
PeppermillRenoThat is just one persons super sensitive and entitled opinion anyone not observing your specific idea of bus etiquette is automatically being selfish. If you don't want to have a pleasant interaction with a stranger asking them if a seat is open (or if its a group asking them to squeeze together so people can sit if they are together and talking just ask if they'd rather sit next to each other than you inbetween) accept that you are being anti social not them. Its the same kind of thing as holding a door open for someone its a common courtesy to politely ask or say escuzi if they are being expected to move.
Fact is that lots of people would rather stand than sit next to a large man in seats that weren't built for large people. As someone who is taller than most everybody I know for damned sure that Im standing before I sit down next to a fat person.
And no matter how I sit due to being large (Im not fat anymore) people generally look around for a smaller person to sit next to before choosing me if I shared your thought proccess and wanted to be offended by everything I could claim that people who prefer to sit next to a smaller person than myself are no better than someone who prefers to sit next to a white person than a black person. But I don't want to be offended by everything.
Grow up ladies stop trying to find gender inequality where it doesn't exist all you are doing is undermining genuine womens rights causes that need to be addressed (there really are some but not as many as someone like Dingo would like people to believe.)
Remember its not just men who get pissed off when a female colleague gets preggers and their job becomes harder automatically female coworkers get pissed off too when their workload increases through no fault of their own.
People love being offended though. Remember the smaller you are the more comfortable and spacious your airline or public transit seat is and the more appealing you are to be sat next to so if anyone should spread out a bit to discourage being constantly sat next or better yet put a backpack on the seat next to you its you since bigger humans get sat next to less :).
corgEYou're right, I don't know everyone's background. And that's a fair point. But why does "manspreading" deserve its own term, as if taking up room unnecessarily is limited to men?
RachyI have no issue if someone sits down next to me. Fucking good. Use the seats! Just don't feel entitled to my space as well. I shouldn't need to ask for this. It's common curtsey.
onenerdykidSo many issues (both large and small) could easily be avoided if people actually acted upon the ultra simple maxim of "do what you want, but don't negatively affect other people". While it's by no means a fool-proof idea, it would get rid of a lot uncourteous and even unethical behavior. That people can't seem to even grasp the basics (or have the fortitude to adhere to them) is really sad.
mmallender.yes and no, people should definitely not be actively offending people, but in this instance, i am going to go out on a limb and say that not EVERYONE is trying to offend by spreading their goddamn legs. sure it would be nice to not have to ask, but at the same time, people shouldnt be expecting everyone else too look out for them instead of taking responsibility for themselves, and ask for a seat. 9 times out of 10 i bet the person will have zero issue giving you some space to sit and narrowing their seating position. the same goes for bags, and what i personally used to encounter on a daily basis on my skytrain commute to and from school, purses/bags on seats, men and women, every single day.
furthermore, i am right there in saying it isnt, and shouldnt be a "feminism" issue, bags, legs-crossed-but-to-the-side-far-enough-that-it-takes-up-an-entire-seat-because-apparently-its-too-difficult-to-sit-forwards, and a million other etiquette issues that result in taking up extra seating/standing space. "manspreading" became a term because it is something that men do almost exclusively, as we dont have to deal with skirts/dresses/short-shorts that result in underwear showing, so a wider stance for us is how we deal with having a penis and not obnoxiously pick and rolling our balls in public. All the while, ANY other etiquette issue is overlooked because of the femenazi movement who believe men are the scourge of the earth.
if you have an issue with something, or you want something from someone else, ask or tell them instead of getting all salty and cranky about it. its called communication, super simple stuff.
DeebieSkeebiesWOAH, you mean like physically talking to people and maybe even having a conversation? no thank you, its much easier to be passive aggressive and just make social media posts about it. screw taking responsibility.
DeebieSkeebiesWOAH, you mean like physically talking to people and maybe even having a conversation? no thank you, its much easier to be passive aggressive and just make social media posts about it. screw taking responsibility.
RachyThis sounds a lot easier than it actually is for many people. I have no issue any more, but it took me a while. I used to be afraid to raise my hand in school to use the bathroom. I would have panic attacks over it. I was lucky enough to get actual help and get over it. If you don't have a problem speaking to strangers, that doesn't mean that others don't. You don't know what's going on in their lives. But if a bus is filling up and the only remaining seats are next those taking up 2 or 3, asking shouldn't even be an issue. You should be decent enough to only take your space.
mmallender.communication is overrated, its all about being passive aggressive and getting salty about EVERYTHING, but NEVER actually doing anything productive about it.
S.J.WWell they sucesfully managed to make it illegal to "manspread: in New York. That's doing something about it.
mmallender.yes and no, people should definitely not be actively offending people, but in this instance, i am going to go out on a limb and say that not EVERYONE is trying to offend by spreading their goddamn legs. sure it would be nice to not have to ask, but at the same time, people shouldnt be expecting everyone else too look out for them instead of taking responsibility for themselves,
mmallender.and how did that happen? enough people had a problem with it, and said or did something about it to the point where action was taken to correct an issue.
not doing anything and then complaining about it is like not voting and whining about the current president/prime minister/whatever elected governing body you have. its like a restaurant getting your order wrong, eating it anyways, being asked if everything is okay by your server, and then whining about it later.
oh you have a problem? did you do anything about it? if you didnt, you dont really have any grounds to complain about it
S.J.WWhat you're essentially saying is that no one can have a problem with anything unless they go out and protest? Yeah because a "stop the spread" protest is going to look great for feminism. Take manspreading for example, there wasn't a huge protest or lobbying of governments. It was mostly a circle jerk of feminists on the internet. One feminist was like "hey why are men taking up more space than they need" then the rest of the feminists were like "yeah bitch" and so manspreading gained traction among the internet and then New York law makers saw it and was like "yeah okay stop spreading guys".
The internet brings people together and it educates people. If something on the internet gains enough traction (manspreading, kony 2012, transgender issues, etc,etc) due to tumblr, facebook, or whatever then most mainstream news outlets will do a story on it because they care about ratings. And those mainstream news outlets can be pretty damn influentional.
onenerdykidIt's not that it is offensive, but rather simple politeness (in this case) that people just don't take the time to think about. People ALWAYS say that the world is full of idiots and retards but rarely extend that critique to themselves and ask the simple question of "hey, am I actually contributing to the problem?"
Sure I could ask the person to move their legs so that I may sit down (which I have no problem doing), but how about he actually takes the responsibility of his own actions without being told to do it? That's what I think is missing here, rather than me taking responsibility for correcting his behavior. He's the one doing something that is not appropriate, therefore he should take the responsibility to correct it. And if not, then for sure let him know.
S.J.WWhat you're essentially saying is that no one can have a problem with anything unless they go out and protest? Yeah because a "stop the spread" protest is going to look great for feminism. Take manspreading for example, there wasn't a huge protest or lobbying of governments. It was mostly a circle jerk of feminists on the internet. One feminist was like "hey why are men taking up more space than they need" then the rest of the feminists were like "yeah bitch" and so manspreading gained traction among the internet and then New York law makers saw it and was like "yeah okay stop spreading guys".
The internet brings people together and it educates people. If something on the internet gains enough traction (manspreading, kony 2012, transgender issues, etc,etc) due to tumblr, facebook, or whatever then most mainstream news outlets will do a story on it because they care about ratings. And those mainstream news outlets can be pretty damn influentional.
PeppermillRenoThat is just one persons super sensitive and entitled opinion anyone not observing your specific idea of bus etiquette is automatically being selfish. If you don't want to have a pleasant interaction with a stranger asking them if a seat is open (or if its a group asking them to squeeze together so people can sit if they are together and talking just ask if they'd rather sit next to each other than you inbetween) accept that you are being anti social not them. Its the same kind of thing as holding a door open for someone its a common courtesy to politely ask or say escuzi if they are being expected to move.
Fact is that lots of people would rather stand than sit next to a large man in seats that weren't built for large people. As someone who is taller than most everybody I know for damned sure that Im standing before I sit down next to a fat person.
And no matter how I sit due to being large (Im not fat anymore) people generally look around for a smaller person to sit next to before choosing me if I shared your thought proccess and wanted to be offended by everything I could claim that people who prefer to sit next to a smaller person than myself are no better than someone who prefers to sit next to a white person than a black person. But I don't want to be offended by everything.
Grow up ladies stop trying to find gender inequality where it doesn't exist all you are doing is undermining genuine womens rights causes that need to be addressed (there really are some but not as many as someone like Dingo would like people to believe.)
Remember its not just men who get pissed off when a female colleague gets preggers and their job becomes harder automatically female coworkers get pissed off too when their workload increases through no fault of their own.
People love being offended though. Remember the smaller you are the more comfortable and spacious your airline or public transit seat is and the more appealing you are to be sat next to so if anyone should spread out a bit to discourage being constantly sat next or better yet put a backpack on the seat next to you its you since bigger humans get sat next to less :).
RachyOn a side note:
This fucking tool followed me from the luggage/bike area to the other end of the train car and proceeded to glare at me with a huge fucking boner.
I have no qualms with the 2 dudes manspreading into each other's space, apparently they are quite comfortable.
But come on? There are few times that I have been this uncomfortable on a Train. I didn't feel comfortable speaking up in this case. I had already moved 40 feet and he followed. The dude in the red probably would have come to my defense had I said something. I suppose in this situation I chose personal discomfort over potentially starting a confrontation between 2 dudes.
RachyOn a side note:
This fucking tool followed me from the luggage/bike area to the other end of the train car and proceeded to glare at me with a huge fucking boner.
I have no qualms with the 2 dudes manspreading into each other's space, apparently they are quite comfortable.
But come on? There are few times that I have been this uncomfortable on a Train. I didn't feel comfortable speaking up in this case. I had already moved 40 feet and he followed. The dude in the red probably would have come to my defense had I said something. I suppose in this situation I chose personal discomfort over potentially starting a confrontation between 2 dudes.
Rachywhen you're wearing shoes or barefoot.
Barefootin_Fiendboy, you don't really leave many options open there....
robbinJAHoodagree with this
RachyOn a side note:
This fucking tool followed me from the luggage/bike area to the other end of the train car and proceeded to glare at me with a huge fucking boner.
I have no qualms with the 2 dudes manspreading into each other's space, apparently they are quite comfortable.
But come on? There are few times that I have been this uncomfortable on a Train. I didn't feel comfortable speaking up in this case. I had already moved 40 feet and he followed. The dude in the red probably would have come to my defense had I said something. I suppose in this situation I chose personal discomfort over potentially starting a confrontation between 2 dudes.
Huck_NorrisHoly shit look at this asshole. What a fucking tool this guy is.
PeppermillRenoTHe butthurt is strong in this one.
I am trying to turn over a new leaf of being nice to people on here I tried to explain my point in length instead of just talking smack though so peace.
californiagrownHoney, he isn't manspreading, hes along to for his luggage so it isn't sticking out into the aisle. And he didn't follow you cause he thinks you're hot, he followed you because you both were going to a less crowded car.
Stopi being a drama queen and accept people for who they are, especially if they aren't hurting you.
Huck_NorrisYou should turn over a new leaf and gtfo.