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californiagrownSo i should burn your house down? You are condoning, and enciting acts of terrorism against american citizens.... It would be patriotic, no?

Get out of here with your logic! That isn't allowed! If you don't agree with him you are wrong and un-American! The 1st only applies to what he believes in, nothing else!

/s

californiagrownSo i should burn your house down? You are condoning, and enciting acts of terrorism against american citizens.... It would be patriotic, no?

You can try ;-)

You clowns probably cried over Anwar al-Awlaki, him being an American citizen and all.

We are at war with all political Islam, it's time to start acting like it.

CampeadorYou clowns probably cried over Anwar al-Awlaki, him being an American citizen and all.

We are at war with all political Islam, it's time to start acting like it.

And you're acting like we're at war with all Muslims.

CampeadorYou clowns probably cried over Anwar al-Awlaki, him being an American citizen and all.

We are at war with all political Islam, it's time to start acting like it.

And you're acting like we're at war with all Muslims.


What is funny is that if there is definitive proof that someone was involved in an act of terrorism against the US, I am all for the big dick of the American Government to fuck them, so long as there's no semblance of doubt. What you're advocating for is a guilty before innoncent approach towards all Muslims which is deplorable. It's akin to how Americans treated suspected Communists during the 20th century and we all know how well that turned out.

.MASSHOLE.It's akin to how Americans treated suspected Communists during the 20th century and we all know how well that turned out.

Yeah, we won.

Wanting to let in millions of Muslims, knowing the threat they pose, out of a delusional sense of political correctness, now that is "deplorable".

I notice you really like the Hillary campaign buzzwords.

Terrorist Ahmad Khan Ramani, born in Afghanistan.

Mass hole, you must be disappointed.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Islamic terrorism, although the two words are getting to the point of being synonymous.

CampeadorYeah, we won.

Wanting to let in millions of Muslims, knowing the threat they pose, out of a delusional sense of political correctness, now that is "deplorable".

I notice you really like the Hillary campaign buzzwords.

More like they ruined themselves by implementing policies that destroyed their own economy, but I digress.

No, what is deplorable is assuming all Muslims are the same. Are you worried about an 8 year old girl from Syria? How about a woman who is fleeing from ISIS? How about a Shiite Muslim fleeing from a Sunni-led country? What is so dangerous about women and children? Or old Muslims? You are profiling an entire religion off the actions of a few.

CampeadorTerrorist Ahmad Khan Ramani, born in Afghanistan.

Mass hole, you must be disappointed.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Islamic terrorism, although the two words are getting to the point of being synonymous.

Disappointed? Why? I am all for removal of terrorists from our country, but I will not do it when the criteria falls upon profiling without evidence. We are a country that has a legal system that relies upon innocent until proven guilty, and that cannot be selectively applied to people within our borders, be it citizens or refugees.

Then I assume you are OK with us associating mass shootings with white men?

.MASSHOLE.Then I assume you are OK with us associating mass shootings with white men?

Except for the inconvenient fact that more black men carry out "mass shootings" as they're defined by the left.

Try again.

Typical leftist argument tactics, always trying to deflect and make false equivalences. As if a few psychopaths have anything to do with the collective Islamic fervor for organized global terrorism.

.MASSHOLE.Disappointed? Why? I am all for removal of terrorists from our country,

But 100% for their importation.

CampeadorExcept for the inconvenient fact that more black men carry out "mass shootings" as they're defined by the left.

Try again.

Typical leftist argument tactics, always trying to deflect and make false equivalences. As if a few psychopaths have anything to do with the collective Islamic fervor for organized global terrorism.

Oh really?

Here, some actual data for mass shootings per the US FBI's definition.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

"Since 1982, there have been at least 83 public mass shootings across the country, with the killings unfolding in 34 states from Massachusetts to Hawaii. Forty-six of these mass shootings have occurred since 2006... Forty-four of the killers were white males"

So thats what, 53%? Try again.

CampeadorBut 100% for their importation.

And you again, selectively interpret my words for something they are not. I have never said I am against vetting nor against preventing entry into the country. But I believe in a strict system with standards that are applied to all people, regardless of race or religion.

CampeadorIslamic terrorism, although the two words are getting to the point of being synonymous.

Islam is the second biggest religion in the world, if they were synonymous surely every country in the world would be fucked and we would know about it?

How is this any different to what was going on in Ireland in the 70s/80s? terrorist acts being done in the name of Christianity?

1 man doing a horrid act in the name of something doesn't mean they speak for the whole of that following

Pull your head of the fucking soil and read a fucking book

DANNY.HIslam is the second biggest religion in the world, if they were synonymous surely every country in the world would be fucked and we would know about it?

How is this any different to what was going on in Ireland in the 70s/80s? terrorist acts being done in the name of Christianity?

1 man doing a horrid act in the name of something doesn't mean they speak for the whole of that following

Pull your head of the fucking soil and read a fucking book

Like, read the Qur'an or Hadith? You'd be pretty hard pressed to find something that ISIS is doing that Muhammad himself didn't do, command be done, or condone.

And just because horrible things were justified via Christianity, it shouldn't take away from or lessen what is done in the name of Islam. It only means both should be criticized and judged for their moral inadequacies.

This is also not an isolated case nor the only instance of this happening. Sadly, it won't be the last either.

onenerdykidLike, read the Qur'an or Hadith? You'd be pretty hard pressed to find something that ISIS is doing that Muhammad himself didn't do, command be done, or condone.

And just because horrible things were justified via Christianity, it shouldn't take away from or lessen what is done in the name of Islam. It only means both should be criticized and judged for their moral inadequacies.

This is also not an isolated case nor the only instance of this happening. Sadly, it won't be the last either.

well if muhammad did it and its in the Quran why isnt every devote muslim committing atrocities?

this is nothing to do with religion, religion is being used as an excuse. ( not religious at all i believe religion is a money grabbing tax evading excuse of a belief)

DANNY.Hwell if muhammad did it and its in the Quran why isnt every devote muslim committing atrocities?

this is nothing to do with religion, religion is being used as an excuse. ( not religious at all i believe religion is a money grabbing tax evading excuse of a belief)

Why isn't every Christian giving away all their possessions and helping the poor like Jesus told them? Because they pick and choose what they want to believe out of their religious books.

Would you like me to send you the link to the latest ISIS magazine where they explicitly address your point? Where they explicitly say it is all about their religion and that our foreign policy blunders are merely secondary and they would hate us even if we stopped committing atrocities all over the world?

onenerdykidWould you like me to send you the link to the latest ISIS magazine where they explicitly address your point?

1. you are reading ISIS magazines? onenerdykid is funding terrorism...

2. I think hitler had some good propaganda going that had his points on them as well. sorry did i say propaganda? i meant "magazine"...

DANNY.H1. you are reading ISIS magazines? onenerdykid is funding terrorism...

2. I think hitler had some good propaganda going that had his points on them as well. sorry did i say propaganda? i meant "magazine"...

1. Yeah, I read the free download to educate myself on their actual claims. Plus, I've read the Qur'an and Hadiths, so I know they are on the winning side of the theological argument (meaning: they are very Islamic and their claims/actions are fully supported by their religious texts).

2. And when you read Nazi propaganda, did you believe that was their position? Or did you try to find other explanations as to why they hated and killed Jews? No- you took them at their word because their actions completely harmonized with their spoken motives. You should do the same here with Islamic terrorists.

When you attempt to argue that ISIS and other Islamists have nothing to do with Islam, it shows that you have a very tenuous grasp on what is actually preached by Islam. It's either you don't understand the Qur'an or you are purposefully being dishonest about what is in the Qur'an. And if you really want our society to progress, then you should at least want to promote honest dialog about problems such as Islamic terrorism.

Bugs me so much news agencies are calling it terrorism just because of they guys name.

If he was white they automatically say he was mentally ill. If he's brown they say he is a terrorist. If black they say they're in a gang.


Is there actually any proof yet that the dude was doing what he did in the name of a ideology? If not then it can't yet be called terrorism.


That said, I'm 99% sure he is a terrorist. It's just best to wait until there is actual evidence before placing labels.

onenerdykid1. Yeah, I read the free download to educate myself on their actual claims. Plus, I've read the Qur'an and Hadiths, so I know they are on the winning side of the theological argument (meaning: they are very Islamic and their claims/actions are fully supported by their religious texts).

2. And when you read Nazi propaganda, did you believe that was their position? Or did you try to find other explanations as to why they hated and killed Jews? No- you took them at their word because their actions completely harmonized with their spoken motives. You should do the same here with Islamic terrorists.

When you attempt to argue that ISIS and other Islamists have nothing to do with Islam, it shows that you have a very tenuous grasp on what is actually preached by Islam. It's either you don't understand the Qur'an or you are purposefully being dishonest about what is in the Qur'an. And if you really want our society to progress, then you should at least want to promote honest dialog about problems such as Islamic terrorism.

i never said they had nothing to do with it, i said they are using it as a facade to commit horrendous crimes.

well i haven't read any nazi propaganda so i wouldn't know, but you seemed pretty clued in

if you do anything with your day, please please please go and watch "Four Lions".

Isn't it funny how these "islamic" terrorists aren't attacking countries that have an active involvement in the middle east...

DANNY.Hi never said they had nothing to do with it, i said they are using it as a facade to commit horrendous crimes.

Isn't it funny how these "islamic" terrorists aren't attacking countries that have an active involvement in the middle east...

It's really hard to argue that it's a facade when people from a well-to-do families with good educations fly 747s into buildings... many of these Islamists have a strong, strong belief in martyrdom and paradise in the afterlife. Interviews with these people make that explicitly clear- their belief is astoundingly strong and its not a mere ploy.

But they are though- what horrible foreign policy blunder did Denmark make which caused their cartoonists to targeted for murder and violent protests break out against Danish embassies all over the Muslim world that lead to over 200 deaths? This example totally proves that Islamists will attack even when your country has done nothing wrong in the Middle East.

onenerdykidBut they are though- what horrible foreign policy blunder did Denmark make which caused their cartoonists to targeted for murder and violent protests break out against Danish embassies all over the Muslim world that lead to over 200 deaths? This example totally proves that Islamists will attack even when your country has done nothing wrong in the Middle East.

Well that cartoonist drew the prophet? and he completely had the right to do so, free speech and all that! but to retaliate in that way is so off the boil for a normal human?

"this man from another part of the world drew a picture, well lets go stab and shoot some people to let them know this isnt right"

OR

"ahh this danish cartoonist drew the prophet... well he has the right to do so and as a muslim i will respect his wishes as he hasn't broken any of his religious laws"

and since you are so well versed in the holy text can you find me the quote that says "if some one draws a picture of me you may shoot and kill as many people as you want cause well thats the word of god" ???

if that is in the Quran then why didnt every masjid and every imam invade denmark?

its time for Isha'a (night prayer) here so excuse me while i point my prayer rug east and give my suicide belt a test run.

onenerdykidIt's really hard to argue that it's a facade when people from a well-to-do families with good educations fly 747s into buildings... many of these Islamists have a strong, strong belief in martyrdom and paradise in the afterlife. Interviews with these people make that explicitly clear- their belief is astoundingly strong and its not a mere ploy.

so why is it never the leaders of these groups committing these acts?

but they are happy to be interviewed and say "oh yes the afterlife is great 73 virgins are all yours, it says so in the Quran!"

also if muslim terrorist had a united caused why are there so many different sects?

DANNY.Hand since you are so well versed in the holy text can you find me the quote that says "if some one draws a picture of me you may shoot and kill as many people as you want cause well thats the word of god" ???

if that is in the Quran then why didnt every masjid and every imam invade denmark?

its time for Isha'a (night prayer) here so excuse me while i point my prayer rug east and give my suicide belt a test run.

Again, they are on the winning side of the theological argument, you are not. There are many punishments for blasphemy in the Qur'an, some of which carry the death penalty. The case of drawing and humiliating the Prophet counts as such and is argued for by more than a few parts in the Qur'an. Here are some:

Qur'an 33:57 - "Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger - Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them a humiliating punishment."

Qur'an 33:61 - "Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the city, desist not, we shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time: They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)."

There are also calls for it in the Hadith (the biography of Muhammad) where he declared that no one should be punished if they kill someone who insults him:
Sunan Abu Dawood 38: 4349 - "Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib: A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah declared that no recompense was payable for her blood."

So yeah, the ideology of Islam is exactly ok with it. Now what you seem to be forgetting is that the ideology is one thing and the extent of belief of the followers is another. For sure moderate Muslims outnumber the fanatics, and that's a good thing. This is why every Muslim didn't invade Denmark. But again, if you think their religion doesn't preach this shit then you don't know what you're talking about.

DANNY.Hits time for Isha'a (night prayer) here so excuse me while i point my prayer rug east and give my suicide belt a test run.

Do you partake in Friday prayer, wishing victory over kaffirs? Or condemn it like many Muslims?

DANNY.Hso why is it never the leaders of these groups committing these acts?

but they are happy to be interviewed and say "oh yes the afterlife is great 73 virgins are all yours, it says so in the Quran!"

also if muslim terrorist had a united caused why are there so many different sects?

Who says they're not? There are videos of them executing people.

We also have testimony from Muslims like Maajid Nawaz (ex-extremists who now lead the educational war against Islamism) who speak their own experiences and also from captured terrorists.

Who said they were completely unified? Muslims are the main target of Islamism and Islamic terrorism. They have numerous factions because their religious texts are so insane and contradictory. It's exactly what you would expect from any religion.

Gods_FatherDo you partake in Friday prayer, wishing victory over kaffirs? Or condemn it like many Muslims?

i think like the majority of other muslims and condemn such actions

.MASSHOLE.More like they ruined themselves by implementing policies that destroyed their own economy, but I digress.

No, what is deplorable is assuming all Muslims are the same. Are you worried about an 8 year old girl from Syria? How about a woman who is fleeing from ISIS? How about a Shiite Muslim fleeing from a Sunni-led country? What is so dangerous about women and children? Or old Muslims? You are profiling an entire religion off the actions of a few.

Haha you should check Twitter. Countless Muslims-men, women, old and young stating that Islamic sharia will rule the world, promoting murder, genital mutilation and more.

DANNY.Hi think like the majority of other muslims and condemn such actions

So the majority of Muslims skip Friday prayer?

DANNY.Hso why is it never the leaders of these groups committing these acts?

Lol what? You ignorant.

onenerdykidif you think their religion doesn't preach this shit then you don't know what you're talking about.

onenerdykidWho says they're not? There are videos of them executing people.

preach and state are two very different things, any church goers here have their priest tell them to run into the street and kill all the gay men? (excluding you rowdy west boro party goers)

wow what a hard decision for these terrorist leaders, kill yourself, or be alive...

i have never once said they arent following their religion, but the percentage of terrorist muslims in the world is less than 1% of all muslims. they do not speak for all muslims.

yes you did a tremendous job of googling "horrible things the Quran says" well done you, but you forget to highlight all the beautiful things it states as well.

DANNY.Hpreach and state are two very different things, any church goers here have their priest tell them to run into the street and kill all the gay men? (excluding you rowdy west boro party goers)

wow what a hard decision for these terrorist leaders, kill yourself, or be alive...

i have never once said they arent following their religion, but the percentage of terrorist muslims in the world is less than 1% of all muslims. they do not speak for all muslims.

yes you did a tremendous job of googling "horrible things the Quran says" well done you, but you forget to highlight all the beautiful things it states as well.

Some of these other guys who defend Islam are delusional, but I think you're the first to walk into this thread who is actually mentally retarded.

.MASSHOLE.Oh really?


And you again, selectively interpret my words for something they are not. I have never said I am against vetting nor against preventing entry into the country. But I believe in a strict system with standards that are applied to all people, regardless of race or religion.

Yes, really. It's hard to know what the flavor of the month is among liberals when it comes to the definition of "mass shooting". You could just as easily have been referring to this,

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

In which case, my point probably holds, especially given the recent string of homicides in gun-controlled Chicago.

Don't lie, by giving tacit support to Hillary you are supporting what is essentially non-vetted migration from countries with high rates of Sharia and terrorism. It's thanks to people like you that Minnesota now has a terrorism problem, I cannot imagine they did 30 years ago before all the Somali "refugees" came flooding in. Strange how anyone with an ounce of common sense can make that connection.

Gods_FatherHaha you should check Twitter. Countless Muslims-men, women, old and young stating that Islamic sharia will rule the world, promoting murder, genital mutilation and more.

Your point? We have countless men, women, and children from America saying we should kill Mexicans, Muslims, African Americans, gays, etc. or any other deplorable thing.

If you want to see the depressing part of America, look online.

CampeadorYes, really. It's hard to know what the flavor of the month is among liberals when it comes to the definition of "mass shooting". You could just as easily have been referring to this,

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

In which case, my point probably holds, especially given the recent string of homicides in gun-controlled Chicago.

Don't lie, by giving tacit support to Hillary you are supporting what is essentially non-vetted migration from countries with high rates of Sharia and terrorism. It's thanks to people like you that Minnesota now has a terrorism problem, I cannot imagine they did 30 years ago before all the Somali "refugees" came flooding in. Strange how anyone with an ounce of common sense can make that connection.

So again, you are changing the goalposts to fit your story. Why am I not surprised? When you referenced the 16% you used the FBI's data, now because it proves that whites are the predominant mass murderers in America, you move to this data. Additionally, you are inferring that all those unknown shooters are African American, not white, not latino, not asian, only African American.

HAHAHA oh my god you obviously know my stance on immigration better than me. You infer so much from so little it is unreal. I feel bad for you, it must be tough living like you do, always blaming others for problems in the world.

CampeadorSome of these other guys who defend Islam are delusional, but I think you're the first to walk into this thread who is actually mentally retarded.

.MASSHOLE.No, what is deplorable is assuming all Muslims are the same. Are you worried about an 8 year old girl from Syria? How about a woman who is fleeing from ISIS? How about a Shiite Muslim fleeing from a Sunni-led country? What is so dangerous about women and children? Or old Muslims? You are profiling an entire religion off the actions of a few.

Whats the point you're? Ok ya no ones afraid of an 8 year old girl from Syria. That doesn't mean the U.S. should be a safe ground for people of other countries escaping their problems. They should fix it in their own country.

Yes I realize your response was to someone else profiling all muslims into one category, whoopdy doo. But the point is why try and decipher which ones are good and which ones are bad, why should that be our issue? Why should we spend our tax dollars on that?

It should be totally understandable why people at the moment lump muslims into a one category, there are MANY that are high danger. No doubt, I'm sure there are thousands of Muslims that I could be best friends with, but how are you supposed to know which ones are going to shoot up you and your family. It's not being racist to not want tons of Muslims coming into the country at the moment with all thats going on (ISIS). No its not racist, yes there are incredibly good muslim people, but lets take care of us first.

Its like having a house party with tons of people yet each time someone steals something really valuable, but you just can't figure out who it is to save your life, especially when everyone is so friendly. So do you keep having house parties because they are so fun, or do you quit throwing them because you know something of yours is going to get jacked? (here comes an over logical response from you telling me how you could definitely find out who the theif is and still throw a party, I'm generalizing so you understand my point)


Maybe all these people you defend and say the U.S. and its citizens shouldn't be afraid of should all stay at your house. The catch is you aren't able to protect yourself, and definately cannot own a gun (i know ur stance on that)

You down? Thats what I thought.




Sorry man, i know i went off topic and on a rant, just trying to understand and wrap my head around half the stuff you spit out.

FrozinballzWhats the point you're? Ok ya no ones afraid of an 8 year old girl from Syria. That doesn't mean the U.S. should be a safe ground for people of other countries escaping their problems. They should fix it in their own country.

Yes I realize your response was to someone else profiling all muslims into one category, whoopdy doo. But the point is why try and decipher which ones are good and which ones are bad, why should that be our issue? Why should we spend our tax dollars on that?

It should be totally understandable why people at the moment lump muslims into a one category, there are MANY that are high danger. No doubt, I'm sure there are thousands of Muslims that I could be best friends with, but how are you supposed to know which ones are going to shoot up you and your family. It's not being racist to not want tons of Muslims coming into the country at the moment with all thats going on (ISIS). No its not racist, yes there are incredibly good muslim people, but lets take care of us first.

Its like having a house party with tons of people yet each time someone steals something really valuable, but you just can't figure out who it is to save your life, especially when everyone is so friendly. So do you keep having house parties because they are so fun, or do you quit throwing them because you know something of yours is going to get jacked? (here comes an over logical response from you telling me how you could definitely find out who the theif is and still throw a party, I'm generalizing so you understand my point)


Maybe all these people you defend and say the U.S. and its citizens shouldn't be afraid of should all stay at your house. The catch is you aren't able to protect yourself, and definately cannot own a gun (i know ur stance on that)

You down? Thats what I thought.




Sorry man, i know i went off topic and on a rant, just trying to understand and wrap my head around half the stuff you spit out.

The majority of women and children, hell, even men, cannot defend themselves in their own country. What can unarmed men and women do against armed militants? The pen is not always mightier than the sword. Ever hear of the Armenian Genocide? How about the Holocaust? Rape of Nanking? The Great Purge in Russia? The Rwandan Genocide?
This is what happens when the world turns a blind eye to events going around the world and does not step in.

Why? Because immigrants bring SO much to this country. Steve Jobs biological father was Syrian, Elon Musk is South African, Albert Einstein was German, Jerry Yang (founder of Yahoo) is from Taiwan, Andy Grove who founded Intel is Hungarian, the list just goes on and on and on.

The next person who could change the world may be sitting in a detention camp right now unable to do anything because of the bigotry we are seeing across the world.

No, there are not "many". We frankly have zero clue about how many Muslims can be classified as dangerous, and that is what scares people and understandably so. I have no problem with people admitting this, hell I will admit it myself. But just because a Muslim believes in Islam or even Sharia law does not mean they are a danger, just like a Christian who is anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion is not to be considered dangerous. There is something that sets humans apart from animals and its rationality. Apparently a lot of people have forgotten how to act rationally and it is showing.

Our lack of rationality has turned us towards blaming everyone else for our issues whether we understand the situation or not.

Problems in the workforce? It is the immigrants and China! Nothing is getting done in the government? It is Obama's fault! Problems with the economy? America is losing in trade to China and other countries!

Except all of those things are wrong.

It is not immigrants and cheap labor, it is a combination of automation (the majority) and cheaper labor. Except, that cheaper labor allows lower income families to afford those goods and services they would not be able to afford if they were being produced in the US. And before you give me the BS about how we should pay American manufacturers more, it wouldn't matter. Too many people are losing jobs to automation, even Foxconn in China is turning towards it.

We know the lack of things getting through the government being so partisan on both sides of the spectrum.

We also know America is not "losing" in trade to China. The deficit frankly does not matter as we are a consumption-based economy.
http://www.cato.org/publications/congressional-testimony/americas-misunderstood-trade-deficit

https://www.chicagofed.org/publications/economic-perspectives/2007/4qtr2007-part1-crane-etal

So, by acting irrationally in this situation, not only are we indirectly hurting countless men, women, and children, we are hurting ourselves by limiting our country. What made America great throughout history has been immigrants and how we assimilate their cultures and ideas into our country.

Except it is not similar to that party at all. Your party does not have a background check nor any requirement for who can come in and out.

The US government has a vetting system in place that attempts to look into the history of every immigrant and refugee who comes into this country. While that system is not perfect, alienating an entire group of people is not the correct response.

What is the answer to this vetting issue you may ask? I don't know to be honest. Probably a combination of stricter requirements for entry alongside stricter background checks and a better integration system.

But reverting to an intensely nationalistic approach is both dangerous and frankly harmful to our own country.

Anyways, I hope that isn't too much of a ramble. It's just my opinion on why we should not close off our country and why I feel it is important we accept immigrants and refugees.

.MASSHOLE.HAHAHA oh my god you obviously know my stance on immigration better than me. You infer so much from so little it is unreal.

.MASSHOLE.I feel it is important we accept immigrants and refugees.

Nailed it.

CampeadorNailed it.

Right, because all immigrants are created alike? I believe in a strict vetting system. I do not approve of opening the borders for anyone and everyone. But withholding the ability for an entire group of people to come to this country is stupid and wrong for so many reasons.

I don't know how many times I have to say this to get it through your thick skull. Your community college education is really showing.

.MASSHOLE.Right, because all immigrants are created alike? I believe in a strict vetting system. I do not approve of opening the borders for anyone and everyone. But withholding the ability for an entire group of people to come to this country is stupid and wrong for so many reasons.

I don't know how many times I have to say this to get it through your thick skull. Your community college education is really showing.

Your desperation is showing, your pathetic desk job must really have you feeling empty inside. Again I'm always left to wonder what they pay you for, your responses are just so damn quick!

If you are in favor of importing a million more muslims (as Hillary would like to do), then you are a fucking idiot. Get that through your "thick skull", amigo.

CampeadorYour desperation is showing, your pathetic desk job must really have you feeling empty inside. Again I'm always left to wonder what they pay you for, your responses are just so damn quick!

If you are in favor of importing a million more muslims (as Hillary would like to do), then you are a fucking idiot. Get that through your "thick skull", amigo.

It is currently 9:45 PM EST, I left work hours ago.

And they pay me to do analysis on companies that operate in foreign markets, meaning I have very little work that requires immediate completion. Besides, refuting your BS is like arguing with a person who barely completed high school, there is no logic or consistency.

Right, because Hillary said a million, not 65,000...the majority of which she stated would be persecuted people, i.e Christians, Yazidis, Kurds, and other religious minorities.

Christ, you spew BS like Brietbart. Pathetic.

.MASSHOLE.The majority of women and children, hell, even men, cannot defend themselves in their own country. What can unarmed men and women do against armed militants? The pen is not always mightier than the sword. Ever hear of the Armenian Genocide? How about the Holocaust? Rape of Nanking? The Great Purge in Russia? The Rwandan Genocide?
This is what happens when the world turns a blind eye to events going around the world and does not step in.

Lol what? No, this is what happens when people are disarmed and cannot defend themselves. You know nothing of history lol.

Gods_FatherLol what? No, this is what happens when people are disarmed and cannot defend themselves. You know nothing of history lol.

Uhh...Try again. Being "armed" would have done nothing seeing as every single group listed was fighting against governmental military forces that was better armed and vastly outnumbered them.

If this occurred in the US your 2nd amendment gun would do nothing against the US military, sorry.

Man, you rightwing nuts are unbelievable. "Muh 2nd amendment matters, but lets selectively apply the 1st!"

Gods_FatherLol what? No, this is what happens when people are disarmed and cannot defend themselves. You know nothing of history lol.

And do me a favor, don't tell someone they don't know anything about German or Russian/Baltic state history when they had family members and family friends die in the Holocaust, Great Purge, and subsequent Eastern Bloc uprisings. My great-grandfather and his family would beg to differ about the impact of being armed against the Nazi war machine and the Russian Communist Party. It wouldn't have changed shit. Those who died in the Holocaust would have died in the street instead of a camp, and those in the Purge would have died regardless. The Purge saw 1,000 people die per day, on average. T

.MASSHOLE.Uhh...Try again. Being "armed" would have done nothing seeing as every single group listed was fighting against governmental military forces that was better armed and vastly outnumbered them.

If this occurred in the US your 2nd amendment gun would do nothing against the US military, sorry.

Man, you rightwing nuts are unbelievable. "Muh 2nd amendment matters, but lets selectively apply the 1st!"

So if a group of people is rounding masses up to be executed, you wouldn't try to defend your family? Haha
oh, I'm right wing? Ignorant goof lol.

FrozinballzWhats the point you're? Ok ya no ones afraid of an 8 year old girl from Syria. That doesn't mean the U.S. should be a safe ground for people of other countries escaping their problems. They should fix it in their own country.

Yes I realize your response was to someone else profiling all muslims into one category, whoopdy doo. But the point is why try and decipher which ones are good and which ones are bad, why should that be our issue? Why should we spend our tax dollars on that?

It should be totally understandable why people at the moment lump muslims into a one category, there are MANY that are high danger. No doubt, I'm sure there are thousands of Muslims that I could be best friends with, but how are you supposed to know which ones are going to shoot up you and your family. It's not being racist to not want tons of Muslims coming into the country at the moment with all thats going on (ISIS). No its not racist, yes there are incredibly good muslim people, but lets take care of us first.

Its like having a house party with tons of people yet each time someone steals something really valuable, but you just can't figure out who it is to save your life, especially when everyone is so friendly. So do you keep having house parties because they are so fun, or do you quit throwing them because you know something of yours is going to get jacked? (here comes an over logical response from you telling me how you could definitely find out who the theif is and still throw a party, I'm generalizing so you understand my point)


Maybe all these people you defend and say the U.S. and its citizens shouldn't be afraid of should all stay at your house. The catch is you aren't able to protect yourself, and definately cannot own a gun (i know ur stance on that)

You down? Thats what I thought.




Sorry man, i know i went off topic and on a rant, just trying to understand and wrap my head around half the stuff you spit out.

I dig that analogy, but "friends at a party" is not the same as "refugees from a war" and "stealing something valuable" is not the same as "killing people".

I think it really comes down to a moral argument whether helping millions of war refugees is worth losing a few hundred lives.

Gods_FatherSo if a group of people is rounding masses up to be executed, you wouldn't try to defend your family? Haha
oh, I'm right wing? Ignorant goof lol.

you aint doing shit if the government is rounding up folks for execution. They come with force all at once for that. But there is an argument to be made about government enforced famines. That is something that could possibly be stopped by a bunch of joes with .308's.

Here is a question: If the government did start rounding up citizens for execution or enforcing famine, do you think any other countries would step in? should they even?

.MASSHOLE.It is currently 9:45 PM EST, I left work hours ago.

And they pay me to do analysis on companies that operate in foreign markets, meaning I have very little work that requires immediate completion. Besides, refuting your BS is like arguing with a person who barely completed high school, there is no logic or consistency.

Right, because Hillary said a million, not 65,000...the majority of which she stated would be persecuted people, i.e Christians, Yazidis, Kurds, and other religious minorities.

Christ, you spew BS like Brietbart. Pathetic.

Your previous responses would indicate that you were at work. Speaking of barely completing high school, it sounds like a high school grad could do your job, you spend all day fucking around on the internet.

Furthermore, you're full of more shit than anyone on this site. Care to mention how many of the first 10,000 "refugees" are persecuted Christians or Yazidis? I think its only around 46 or so.

The fact that you would allow in hundreds of thousands of Muslim migrants from Sharia countries means you are delusional. Migrants who will require long-term welfare while the U.S. does not have the resources to provide for its own citizens. Not to mention the direct correlation between Islam and terrorism. You are an actual fucking idiot.

You should renounce your citizenship, you should apply for Canadian citizenship from your ideological comrade Trudeau, and then you can both have "interfaith" prayers at the local mosque together.

It's cute that you would mention Breitbart, when the majority of your links are left or far-left sources such as motherjones and Media Matters. I've linked a Breitbart article, maybe once? Not to mention they were the first English language outlet to report accurately on the Muslim Cologne mass sexual assault, events that left-wing media attempts to keep under wraps.

Again, you're a fucking idiot.

CampeadorAgain, you're a fucking idiot.

You know I read your posts and I see an awful similarity in the way you talk about muslims, is the way ISIS talks about the west. They're our enemy, we need to kill them, etc,etc. If I replaced all talk about Islam in your posts and switched it to the west, you would sound exactly like Abu Bagdhadi.