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redherringnice copy and paste, why would you post this on a ski forum?
BravoWhiskey5280This is absolutely disgusting. San Frans mayor deliberately gave this five time felon/illegal immigrant sanctuary in the city of San Francisco and he refused to turn him over to the feds when they wanted him. He has to be held responsible for this poor girls murder. By ignoring multiple immigration laws and ignoring United States Constitution, the United States General attorney could definitely throw SF's mayor into jail if she wanted to. I know thats never going to happen though because the Obama administration is a piece of shit. There is no doubt that they could prosecute him if they wanted to though.
onenerdykid1. Maybe it was left out of your report, but why are you targeting the mayor here? While the mayor is in charge of the city, I don't think his direct responsibilities include preventing shootings of people (and apparently seals).
2. Even if the mayor is responsible, why would the Obama administration go after him? That is normally the job of the FBI/US attorney, who go after mayors all the time regardless of which president is in office.
3. What your report does point out is a HUGE problem of whose job it is to do what with illegal immigrants who commit crimes. If anything, this points out a rather important need for immigration reform, categorization of duties, and execution of said duties.
Stose1) It's not that the mayor directly has to prevent shootings. It's the fact that had the mayor not given sanction to this illegal immigrant, the shooting wouldn't have happened.
onenerdykidWhich I do understand, but it's an argument about causation not negligence and said arguments are the whole basis for why conservatives say "it's not guns that kill people, people kill people". This case is no different when viewed in that light.
Arguments of causation amount to a chain of variables and by removing a variable the scenario cannot happen. For example, take away guns and you don't have any more gun violence or had the mayor locked him up, this wouldn't have happened. Both use the same argumentation, and eventually you could argue that if he had never been born it wouldn't have happened either. All of these causes are equally valid.
Arguments of culpability/negligence amount to who acted improperly due to their own actions and thus who is directly responsible. In this case, Francisco Sanchez the shooter is the person who is directly responsible since he (allegedly) pulled the trigger.
Now the case could be made that the mayor/law enforcement is also negligent in this case too, which is also very plausible. But don't use arguments of causation because everything is a cause and you can remove any variable in the equation equally and they all need to be there for an event to happen.
BravoWhiskey5280The cops pulled him over 15 minutes later and they told me that this was his ninth DUI and that he was an illegal! Of course he didn't have a drivers license's or insurance so guess who was stuck paying the $1000 deductible to fix my truck? Yeah, that would be me. So in a sense, if you're okay with these sanctuary cities than you are okay with the fact that you will paying for all the damages to your if you get in an accident with one of these illegals, even if they were the ones that are completely at fault.
BravoWhiskey5280I just have a huge problem with these safe haven cities that harbor criminals. Remember, if you enter this country illegally than you are committing a crime so therefore you are a criminal. Get the picture? You can argue all you want wether or not these people are violent or not, obviously the majority of them are not. But there is no way to get around the fact that these people are criminals because of the crime they committed by entering this country illegally.
I especially have a problem with it because one of these illegals, I live in Denver aka a sanctuary city, crashed into my truck while he was driving drunk and then he fled the scene this past January. The cops pulled him over 15 minutes later and they told me that this was his ninth DUI and that he was an illegal! Of course he didn't have a drivers license's or insurance so guess who was stuck paying the $1000 deductible to fix my truck? Yeah, that would be me. So in a sense, if you're okay with these sanctuary cities than you are okay with the fact that you will paying for all the damages to your if you get in an accident with one of these illegals, even if they were the ones that are completely at fault.