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stinky_petea lot of chop, and a lot of crud.
.Washingtoni came here to say the 4F renegades stinky. stiff (ive actually felt them), and are full rocker
ghosthopYou want the billygoats
stinky_petehave you ridden them? definitely looking into them, but don't know too much about them
ghosthopI spent a morning demoing them, the conditions for the day did not warrant that much ski, I spent the rest of the day on Steeples and got a pretty good feel for RES
My biggest comment is if these will be a OSQ, I thought that RES was sketchy on steep hardpack. If there was anything at all for the skis to bite into the ability to control your speed through varying turnshape was incredible. But I did not have enough trust in the skis to want to open it up anywhere I would want to scrub speed that was not some sort of softish surface. Dust on crust was enough but I did nothing balls to the wall that day, YMMV
a ski buddy rides hojis, seriously a dumb amount of rocker, I would imagine the renegade does not improve upon this
if looking for softsnow performance, look at the 2016 bodacious? maybe cobracommander will chime in
stinky_peteSo why didn't you trust the skis enough to go fast? and overall did you like RES or not
ghosthopI really liked the RES and had no problem trusting it in most conditions, just not on hardpack. It doesn't feel like a super tail rockered ski where you slide out the tails and throw the skis sideways to control speed, for me I noticed I was skiing more in the fall line because I had the confidence to make a controlled turn when needed instead of the skid for life. For ME it allowed for confident, high speed skiing vs. a more centered mounted, heavily tail rockered ski.