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taylor_gangI put probably 75 hours on mine this year and have had no problems. Granted, I am a 145 pound female, but still.
shin-bangSo do you think i would be fine with Trekkers, I'm like 170lbs and would spend about 25-30 hours on them per year
cydwhitAre you already on Barons? If so stick with the Barons!
shin-bangYea I have them on some crjs, so I do a lot of in bounds jibbing and stuff on them and they aren't too reliable, and there's a ton slop in between the track And where it attaches, the toe piece is super flimsy and don't really trust them, and they're super heavy. I only really go on like hour hikes or like a 3 hour hike 1day a year or so. So basically I'm riding them 80% in bounds and don't want the extra weight for less reliability. Sorry for the rant but for how little touring I actually do will I be ok?
SFBv420.0treckers are kinda like your ability to use the search bar or put your repeats in the right gabber forum
bout as lame as it gits
cydwhitI mean, I was gonna go Treckers and hopped on gaurdians instead and am soooooo glad I did. Even my buddy who is on barons would agree I think that they are way better than Treckers. I mean, how hard are you gonna be going that Barons won't cut it? IMO I would rather have the minimal weight of barons on my feet than the clunk of wreckers in my bag and the weight and unreliability of them on the up. Then again, take this with a grain of salt since I'm trying to go full dynafit.
Sorry for the BFish-ness of that post, I'm eating and don't feel like spell checking....
1337I use them on the EC, and they break quite often for how little I use them. It also sucks having that weight in my already heavy pack (camera gear) on the way down. I might try to get a tech binding and a lighter ski for next season for touring shit, or maybe guardians if they're any better durability wise?
Titsandwich11just gonna add what i know/think about the whole issue in case it helps you at all--
ive never used trackers but my friends have. the pros are obvious, cheap and you use just your normal bindings on the way down. cons are obvious as well i guess, but one that hasnt been mentioned is the fact that they add a lot of space between your foot and the ground which bothers people
can't comment on their durability etc. most of my friends agree that theyre fine for very minimal tours but that's about it
personally i have tyrolia adrenalins and so far im really impressed. theyre light compared to any other burly frame AT binding, and so far ive not noticed any difference on the way down compared to a normal alpine binding (and i'm picky about my bindings). ive used them only a handful of times and it was with a dynafit crowd-- i lagged behind them a bit for sure on tours and that could reflect their weight/the fact i was using shitty park boots rather than touring ones BUT i bet it had more to do with the fact that while those dudes tour and ski every day, i work in an office and ski occasionally and hadnt been working out regularly. plus, it was my first time at 11,000 feet or so. and on the way down i was very very happy to have a more alpine style binding :)
so in my mind the adrenalin is a great compromise. theyre lighter than barons and guardians (and i hear much worse reviews on barons than guardians and adrenalins), their stack height is a little higher, but nothing to worry about at all IMO (and obviously theyll have you way lower than trekkers)
so i guess the upshot of what im saying is i'd consider the adrenalins if i were you. i bought them because my inbounds pow ski is the same pair as my touring ski and I strongly prioritize the downhill performance
hope that helps. feel free to ask me any specific questions
1337I use them on the EC, and they break quite often for how little I use them. It also sucks having that weight in my already heavy pack (camera gear) on the way down. I might try to get a tech binding and a lighter ski for next season for touring shit, or maybe guardians if they're any better durability wise?
Charlie*One thing you might wanna consider is the fitment of the trekkers. I've never used them, mainly because I read /saw that they don't work well with tall heel pieces such as the FKS/Jester etc. (So I never bought them.) Apparently the back of the trekker frame hits the heel piece of your bindings on the way up; making the fit a little wonky. Just one more thing that makes them a less than ideal choice (unless you have something like the Tyrolia Attack bindings with a smaller heel piece.) Been on the fence about trekkers for a while now, still kinda want a pair for their versatility/compatibility with my whole quiver but at the end of the day a tech setup is the way to go if you can scrounge the coin
shin-bangAlright thanks. What do you mean brake, like permanently broken? Or like your heel or toe just pops out so you can just put the boot back in but it's just a pain in the but or what?
shin-bangYea I just don't do a whole lot of hiking so that's why I'm considering it. But I've actually seen a guy use them in a video with like axial 2s? Or something with higher dildo type heel and he said they worked fine. Thanks for the response k+
cydwhitI mean, I was gonna go Treckers and hopped on gaurdians instead and am soooooo glad I did. Even my buddy who is on barons would agree I think that they are way better than Treckers. I mean, how hard are you gonna be going that Barons won't cut it? IMO I would rather have the minimal weight of barons on my feet than the clunk of wreckers in my bag and the weight and unreliability of them on the up. Then again, take this with a grain of salt since I'm trying to go full dynafit.
Sorry for the BFish-ness of that post, I'm eating and don't feel like spell checking....
the.hellion.trekkers blow, straight up. The slop you're referring to is just a Marker hallmark. In every pair of markers I've ever owned, (even regular alpine), there's huge toe wiggle room shortly after having them. It's just a weird quirk, (like being able to shake your skis around while riding the lift or something), but it doesn't mean they're going to fail or prerelease. Even the heel piece almost wiggles on the track a little bit.
If you've got Barons and your big concern is whether they're reliable on the way down, have em checked out by a good tech and let it rip.
shin-bangthanks for the response. and yes on the lift when i shake them horizontally theres so much space in there. but from everyone tells me ill just have to deal with extra weight of the barons when jibbing for the trade off of trekkers braking during an ascent.
Caucasian_AsianSounds like the toe afd needs to be adjusted
shin-bangI only really go on like hour hikes or like a 3 hour hike 1day a year or so. So basically I'm riding them 80% in bounds and don't want the extra weight for less reliability.
Ryanvdonki had trekkers for 3 seasons before getting guardians. they work fine unless you are cross hilling, then they have some issues. one of the main points, is always double check all the screws before heading out for a day, i never had any issues doing that. the issue with side hilling is that it puts a ton of stress on the hinge mechanism, so it kind of twists, but it's something you can deal with if you're careful. that problem is magnified on harder conditions. i used them with some 916s and FKS bindings (916 was a stupid heavy setup for skinning), and both worked. the deal with the fks is that the heel piece doesn't allow the binding to go fully flat, so it's a bit wonky on flat and down sections. hope that helped. they are a pain in the butt, but honestly i'd rather have them than dukes/barons cause i don't trust those as much on the way down. guardians and adrenilines would be preferable in the beefy touring sector.
Charlie*One thing you might wanna consider is the fitment of the trekkers. I've never used them, mainly because I read /saw that they don't work well with tall heel pieces such as the FKS/Jester etc. (So I never bought them.) Apparently the back of the trekker frame hits the heel piece of your bindings on the way up; making the fit a little wonky. Just one more thing that makes them a less than ideal choice (unless you have something like the Tyrolia Attack bindings with a smaller heel piece.) Been on the fence about trekkers for a while now, still kinda want a pair for their versatility/compatibility with my whole quiver but at the end of the day a tech setup is the way to go if you can scrounge the coin
shin-bangthank goodness someone that has actually put some days in on them. well as little touring as i do youve convinced me to get some trekkers. funny you should mention being wonky on down sections. so i was on my barons with the climbing aid up all the way as i was going up this steeper hill, but then it drops down a little hill and then another steep part so i just kept my aid on while going down. i have to say i was scared for my life but i rode it out hahaha!
shin-bangguess ill be keeping the barons :( as i was going to get some fks from my friend but not any more
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