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How to tele in the park?

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Troy.
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Attention people with broken bindings:

How do you tele in the park? Just swapped over from alpine middle of last season, and love it. Definitely going to tele for a while. That said, every time I try and drop knee, I either dig my edge in, or get my weight all wonky.

Any tips?
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Dec 1 2014 1:50PM
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ghosthop
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No one cares that you tele. Seriously

Good luck though, one of the steeziest park riders I've ever seen was a tele rider, an absolute rail wizard.
Dec 1 2014 2:05PM
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kalle.
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no tips from me but since this is about skiing park with telemark:
a finnish park-tele-skier called joonas karhumaa said his favorite trick is zero spin. actually got to see him do one of those and he did a switch tele-landing, it was mindblowing.
Dec 1 2014 2:11PM
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grifrowl
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Troy.every time I try and drop knee, I either dig my edge in, or get my weight all wonky.

Are you talking just skiing, or on rails/boxes?
Dec 1 2014 3:45PM
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Troy.
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grifrowlAre you talking just skiing, or on rails/boxes?


Rails and boxes. I can tele everywhere else just fine.
Dec 1 2014 4:02PM
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grifrowl
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Troy.Rails and boxes. I can tele everywhere else just fine.


Word. I'd like to get these down a bit better this season. I've tried this a few times and 9/10 times ended up hip checking the rail, and the other times it ends up super rough. I don't get much park time though. Maybe a wider stance than normal?
Dec 2 2014 12:12AM
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WyattShapperd
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Eat more granola
Dec 2 2014 12:18AM
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Sklar
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what binders?
seems like most of the guys who tele in the park have some stiff ass bindings
Dec 2 2014 12:29AM
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ThaLorax
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Pretty sure you just need stiff ass bindings. I know a lot of people use NTN bindings in the park too.
Dec 2 2014 12:34AM
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grifrowl
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Sklarstiff ass bindings


ThaLoraxNTN


One of my friends had a facebook convo with Ty Dayberry this summer and he basically said it came down to this^.
Dec 2 2014 12:55AM
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KneeDrop
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welcome to fun and frustration!!

i think its easiest to get on the box with both heels down, then sink into tele stance or nosepress..and get ALL the way down, like sittin on your heel

go a little slower and focus on flat skis/even weight(between feet)

make sure your boots are canted properly. my informal test for that is when you put your knee down, it should be centered on your ski.

dont worry about equipment, its been done on anything from 3pins to Bishops

let me know if i need to clarify anything, its late..

have fun!
Dec 2 2014 4:30AM
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GPO
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why give yourself a handicap in the park?
Dec 2 2014 8:46AM
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speedin
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Killer turns bro
Dec 2 2014 9:05AM
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KneeDrop
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eindelijkskiswhy give yourself a handicap in the park?


I'm sorry, shouldn't even reply...but I hate this thought...
You sound like snowboarders back in the day sayin skiers cant hit rails.

I am a telemark skier. I also enjoy park skiing. Therefore, I telemark in the park.

I hope that clears it up
Dec 2 2014 9:51AM
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KneeDrop
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I assume others who tele park have similar reasoning
Dec 2 2014 9:51AM
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KneeDrop
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Also, just realized you're the troll I can't help but feed. Everytime something tele related is posted...there you are talkin shit.

I hope next time I read your username first.
Dec 2 2014 9:55AM
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GPO
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KneeDropAlso, just realized you're the troll I can't help but feed. Everytime something tele related is posted...there you are talkin shit.

I hope next time I read your username first.


so we meet again haha
Dec 2 2014 10:52AM
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304NordMan
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I don't find it very fun or efficient to make the stance in the park... I don't know if this is you, but a lot of tele skier feel obligated to drop knees in the park just for the sake of accentuating their tele-skier identity. I've been doing it my whole life and use the turn because it's so great to fuckin' charge hard on, float in powder, maneuver through trees, fly on xc skis, and get honey's. But no use for it in the park, staying upright in a parallel stance seems like the the obvious way to rock. The tele-stance rail slide is classic but limiting.

Or maybe I'm failing to push it lol just my take
Dec 2 2014 11:59AM
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Troy.
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Ebola_CrayolaEat more granola


That literally isn't possible

Sklarwhat binders?


BD O2's with Mid stiff
KneeDropmake sure your boots are canted properly. my informal test for that is when you put your knee down, it should be centered on your ski.


Thank you for the help! When you say "canted properly", what does that mean?
Dec 2 2014 12:07PM
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ThaLorax
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Troy.Thank you for the help! When you say "canted properly", what does that mean?


Canting is the angle of your boot (side to side) that brings your foot to a neutral position.
Dec 2 2014 12:28PM
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Troy.
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ThaLoraxCanting is the angle of your boot (side to side) that brings your foot to a neutral position.


I'm assuming that you adjust that by screwing the cartridges evenly?
Dec 2 2014 12:31PM
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ThaLorax
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Troy.I'm assuming that you adjust that by screwing the cartridges evenly?


Sort of. Just make an appointment with Larry the bootfitter in Boulder and have him sort you out. It'll help your every day skiing too.
Dec 2 2014 12:35PM
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Troy.
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ThaLoraxSort of. Just make an appointment with Larry the bootfitter in Boulder and have him sort you out. It'll help your every day skiing too.


Just holla'd at you on Facebook.
Dec 2 2014 12:37PM
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K-Dot.
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Back when I tele'd I learned that landing switch was quite a gamble. I didn't use ntn's though which look like they help a lot when you want to get serious on teles. I just got sick of always eating it on tricks though and went back to regular.
Dec 2 2014 3:44PM
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telecolo_
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KneeDropwelcome to fun and frustration!!

i think its easiest to get on the box with both heels down, then sink into tele stance or nosepress..and get ALL the way down, like sittin on your heel

go a little slower and focus on flat skis/even weight(between feet)

make sure your boots are canted properly. my informal test for that is when you put your knee down, it should be centered on your ski.

dont worry about equipment, its been done on anything from 3pins to Bishops

let me know if i need to clarify anything, its late..

have fun!


KneeDropI assume others who tele park have similar reasoning


^^ words from the legend himself (Dylan insert "awwwww" here if you would like)

i grew up skateboarding and began snowboarding once i moved to colorado, so park has always been something i enjoyed. i switched from snowboarding to tele 4 seasons ago because i just got bored of it. after one horribly pain staking season of learning, i was antsy to get back in the park.. especially to see what hitting a rail with two things on your feet (instead of one) would feel like. long story short.. pretty amazing. i think regardless of what you are riding, if you like park.. you like park, and you will always explore. Dylan was the first person i had ever seen footage of riding tele in the park and it inspired me to try as many of the tele press type craps you can.. if you got it, flaunt it.. right?

I'm riding some older hammerheads with stiffy springs, set on 4. i think these will be a bit stiffer than what those BD's get to. i think for popping onto rails and such having a stiffer binding is nice so it keeps your boards from flopping too hard, but there is a line where if you go too stiff then tele presses became an instant way to blast yourself off the feature.

like Dylan said, just focus on keeping your weight centered and the boards flat.. i fell forever trying it on small boxes and it is just now kind of making sense on other things.

keep at it! you'll figure it out!
Dec 2 2014 7:30PM
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