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Making Skis Like A Skateboard

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BagOTricks
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I know Afterbangs are made like a skateboard, but I was wondering if its possible to make skis by using the process they us to make skateboards. I know Line most likely isn't using this process. I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and don't see a reason why it couldn't work. Anybody got any input?
Oct 23 2014 9:11PM
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No.Quarter
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a ski press and a skateboard press are fundamentally the same
Oct 23 2014 9:45PM
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BagOTricks
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I meant more along the lines of having plies of wood stacked on each other rather than having a standard ski core. And maybe having carbon fiber or something else between the plies of wood.
Oct 23 2014 10:23PM
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Mafatu123
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There will be no difference in the ski making process. Having made both skis and longboards, the presses are very similar. As far as flex and ski ability, making them with vertical lamination may create a stiffer ski, but other than that there shouldn't be much difference
Oct 23 2014 11:29PM
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toastyteenagers
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Most skis are constructed with plys of wood, but if you made completly out of wood it would be either too soft, too stiff, and less durable

although innovative the afterbang has some upgrading to do
Oct 24 2014 12:25AM
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BagOTricks
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Mafatu123There will be no difference in the ski making process. Having made both skis and longboards, the presses are very similar. As far as flex and ski ability, making them with vertical lamination may create a stiffer ski, but other than that there shouldn't be much difference


toastyteenagersMost skis are constructed with plys of wood, but if you made completly out of wood it would be either too soft, too stiff, and less durable

although innovative the afterbang has some upgrading to do


Thanks guys, I guess this just seemed like an easier option to me. Don't know why. Seems like a fun project.
Oct 24 2014 12:30AM
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profa_212
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SonOfAnderI meant more along the lines of having plies of wood stacked on each other rather than having a standard ski core. And maybe having carbon fiber or something else between the plies of wood.


Pretty sure that's exactly how the afterbang is made.
Oct 24 2014 12:33AM
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BagOTricks
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Profahoben_212Pretty sure that's exactly how the afterbang is made.


It seems easier that profiling a core and all that, I wonder why more skis aren't made this way.
Oct 24 2014 12:48AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Skateboards don't need to flex.
Oct 24 2014 8:25AM
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BagOTricks
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RudyGarmischSkateboards don't need to flex.


So a ski built this way would have no flex at all?
Oct 24 2014 8:43AM
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NinetyFour
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SonOfAnderIt seems easier that profiling a core and all that, I wonder why more skis aren't made this way.


You would still have to profile a core built this way. If you didn't you would end up with a ski that's just as stiff at the tips and tails as it is underfoot. Skis like that would ride terribly. So it isn't all that easier to build skis this way, and at only a slightly reduced cost. Horizontal lamination, what you've described is harder to build with the same ride qualities as a vertically laminated ski as well. If your Line pumping out price point Afterbangs it makes sense, but if your looking to build only a few pair, there is no huge benefit, maybe even a loss because they probably won't ride as nice as the alternative.
Oct 24 2014 11:04AM
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BagOTricks
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NinetyFourYou would still have to profile a core built this way. If you didn't you would end up with a ski that's just as stiff at the tips and tails as it is underfoot. Skis like that would ride terribly. So it isn't all that easier to build skis this way, and at only a slightly reduced cost. Horizontal lamination, what you've described is harder to build with the same ride qualities as a vertically laminated ski as well. If your Line pumping out price point Afterbangs it makes sense, but if your looking to build only a few pair, there is no huge benefit, maybe even a loss because they probably won't ride as nice as the alternative.


Good looks. If you were to gradually thin out the top layer of veneer as you go closer to the tips would you get the flex you're looking for?
Oct 24 2014 12:14PM
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profa_212
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SonOfAnderGood looks. If you were to gradually thin out the top layer of veneer as you go closer to the tips would you get the flex you're looking for?


That is exactly what profiling is....
Oct 24 2014 12:32PM
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BagOTricks
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Profahoben_212That is exactly what profiling is....


Right, but I'm saying layout let's say 5 layers of veneer first, and profile just the top layer of veneer. Glue/epoxy these veneers together and press them without a ski mold (just flat), and then use this as your core?
Oct 24 2014 1:00PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Think about the surface area that you would need to glue in 5 flat veneer layers vs attaching 5 sticks next to each other by gluing the sides. Also know that glue sucks as core material, for a variety of reasons Id rather not type.
Oct 24 2014 6:25PM
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